To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

Again, why does it concern you if they did. You aren't doing it. Nobody has told you you should be doing it, so I am still wondering why what other people choose to wear is of such a concern to you.

Can you really not see the difference between leaving the house for this kind of appointment, and leaving the house to drop your kids off at school, or going downstairs to the hotel lobby to get breakfast?

Is that really the worst that's ever happened to you?

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Well, are you?

Whether or not you are, I'd hazard a guess that it's a damn sight easier for you to find somewhere to wash your clothes/body than it is for a homeless person.

Nobody is forcing you to do it, are they? Your 'self-respect' is your business. Somebody else may not equate attire with 'self-respect' in the same way.

You are not going to be physically injured by seeing a person in pyjamas. It really shouldn't matter this much to you.

Their bodies are covered. It is no more unhygienic than sitting down in yesterday's trousers and top that they wore for a sweaty couple of hours in the car driving to the hotel, or on the train where they could have picked up bedbugs.

It's not something I have done, I don't even own pyjamas. But I don't understand why what other people wear is this much of a concern.

Never mind society for a minute. Tell me, in your own words, in what way this harms you on a personal level? What about this particular human behaviour cannot simply be ignored whilst you get on with your day?

Completely agree. It sounds a lot harder for you than it is for me, but on a day when my RA pain is flaring it takes me much longer to get ready for the day than it would take most people and every movement hurts. I sleep in leggings and a T-shirt now, partly in case I need to answer the door or interact with my DM's carer (DM lives with me) before I'm able to shower and dress. Generally speaking people with no pain/health/mobility issues really seem to struggle to understand how much energy has to be mustered up for the most basic tasks for some of us.

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Sooooo good to feel self righteous if you don't have to share a packed bus with someone who doesn't wash and pisses themselves.

How do you know me and my kids are not vulnerable?

Imagine the scene - happy, relaxed holiday makers in their lounge wear, then angry, pursed-mouth OP in her starched gown and jewellery, looking daggers at everyone. I wonder who gets more enjoyment from their holiday 🤔 😅

OP, you sound incredibly judgmental. Why does it matter whether anyone has make up or jewelry on when they leave the house? The last time I wore make up was a wedding I went to two years ago. I can still make myself presentable every day though.

I do agree with you for the most part though. I can't imagine going to the supermarket in pajamas when it takes two minutes to throw some clothes on. Similarly, I would never go to a hotel breakfast without getting dressed first, but often this means throwing on yesterday's clothes because I usually wait to shower until after I'm done with breakfast. I also wouldn't wear slippers to breakfast, but I always take a pair of flip flops with me to wear in the hotel, even if it's too cold out to wear them.

But the school run? Who cares? My kids are grown now, but in the many years of school runs I'm sure there were a handful of times when I didn't get dressed before getting in the car. Only if I was dropping the kids off at their school and/or school bus and coming straight home, and only if we were in a rush, but it really didn't matter. No one would see me. Half the time it was dark that early in the morning anyway. I can't understand why it would make any difference if someone was in pajamas for the school run.

Angry, sneery, snobby, judgmental. So boring.

How would you know they weren't unwell and just managing to hide it really well in interactions with other people?

Bit harsh to judge people based on a 30 second snapshot of their lives.

Theres your ableism showing...

You assume that because it doesn't take you long to have a quick wash and change clothes, it's the same for everyone.

It takes me about an hour and a half to get up, washed and fully dressed, hair brushed and up etc. And thats in my 'PJ adjacent' clothing which is all selected as it is easy to get on/off.

If it's a hair wash day add another 40 minutes.

And that doesn't take into account the pain and the fatigue all that causes.

Being fully clothed in clothing you don't think is 'outdoor wear' is absolutely not the equivalent of walking around naked.

What angry, boring lives some people lead. Fancy ruining your holiday by frothing about other people's attire.

Maybe stop going to hotels and just stay in your house, wearing pearls and a ballgown?

Lovely bit of racism there to go with your ableism! Also, who the fuck goes around photographing people like that without consent and PUBLISHING THE PHOTOS? What is wrong with some people? Why do you read rubbish like that and think it's ok?

Was the mum the head teacher, or was it just snobbery on your part?

When DC was in primary they had a pyjama day (possibly national book day? to avoid the buying costumes issue?) the teachers wore pyjamas too. It was nice. I think they were still able to learn and no one died from lack of decorum.

There is very little fundamental difference between pyjamas and lounge wear / leggings and t-shirt other than the label. They cover the same things. It's weird people are so bothered by something that has no impact on them at all.

I have a chronic illness and some days are a real struggle for me, I love clothes and like to be "dressed up" but I've had days where it's been as much as I could manage to drive DS to school in an oodie all in one and days where I've had to go have a midafternoon nap in an £800+ dress. I don't sleep at night in either of those but I guess the dress is actually more pyjamas than the oodie given I have slept in it - I don't think that's the one you'd judge me for wearing on the school run though.

How do you know it was a shower cap and not a silk bonnet?

Nothing more than body shaming. A nice collection of sneery judgements you've built up on your expedition. Classy 👏

I doubt you will find many on MN who give a damn about what's posted on Reddit. Looks like you're bringing their bad habits over here.