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To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:22

I visited Amsterdam last year and was shocked to see an apparently middle class women coming down to breakfast in her pj's,dressing gown and slippers. Similarly going round Tescos where there are people, especially women in pj's and slippers. No doubt I'll be called an old right wing fascist or something.

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Parker231 · 30/05/2025 18:49

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:46

They weren't wearing pj's to breakfast were they?

I’ve never seen anyone wearing pj’s in a hotel restaurant or in a supermarket etc. Although we do have a family tradition of a pj Christmas competition - strictly at home 🎄🤶

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 18:49

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:45

So far, 79% agree with me. So I think you are in the minority here. By the way, regarding the "ableist" slur, I have a son who is lame after an accident and uses a crutch. We had a talk about this today and he said "I'd never go out anywhere in my pyjamas. I always shower, dress and put on cologne when I go out. Even to the supermarket." How weird eh?

We can agree that we wouldn't wear PJ's on the school run and still think you're being very judgemental and rude.

EdithBond · 30/05/2025 18:49

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:29

I went to India a couple of years ago on an organised tour. Stayed in a very nice hotel in Shimla in the Himalayas. There was a notice saying please do not come to breakfast in your pyjamas. So I imagine that notice was directed at the badly behaved Brits not at the Indian guests who were beautifully turned out and well dressed.

So let’s get this straight.

Indian street wear (Kurta pyjamas), traditionally worn for festive occasions or evening outings, were adopted by British colonialists as sleepwear because the British were too prudish and buttoned up to wear it in the day: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/origin-pajamas-pjs

Fast forward a century or so, and because some European tourists may now wear this ‘sleepwear’ to breakfast in hotels in India, the hotels ban pyjamas: traditional Indian dress?

And you think that’s a good thing? To nick someone’s clothing style, then expect them to ban it in their own hotels/country because it offends you to wear it? Bit colonialist, don’t you think?

Like wearing kilts to bed, then asking Scottish hotels to ban them because it offends you if people wear them out.

How Indian streetwear became western pajamas

After the British Raj was established, the Indian kurta pajama became fashionable across Europe and was eventually adapted into matching sets.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/origin-pajamas-pjs

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:48

79% suggests mumsnet doesn't have as many silly people as are posting here 🙄 🤣

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:46

Parker231 · 30/05/2025 18:41

We have also stayed at hotels in Shimla and there were as many Indians as Europeans wearing jeans.

They weren't wearing pj's to breakfast were they?

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:45

So far, 79% agree with me. So I think you are in the minority here. By the way, regarding the "ableist" slur, I have a son who is lame after an accident and uses a crutch. We had a talk about this today and he said "I'd never go out anywhere in my pyjamas. I always shower, dress and put on cologne when I go out. Even to the supermarket." How weird eh?

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Parker231 · 30/05/2025 18:41

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:39

Well it happens to be true.

We have also stayed at hotels in Shimla and there were as many Indians as Europeans wearing jeans.

ObelixtheGaul · 30/05/2025 18:39

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:10

Very soon, people will be taking a dump in public on the pavement and posters on here will be saying it's their rights, innit. That’s the way things are going here. The number of notices around saying "abuse will not be tolerated" towards public servants suggests an infantilised society where grown adults act and behave like toddlers, including refusing to dress appropriately in public.

Again with the ridiculous extrapolations. Are you really this silly? Can you really not tell the difference between the health hazard of emptying your bowels on the street and wearing PJs? Honestly?

Incidentally, some people who are overly concerned with the appearance of others would consider jewellery, make up etc on the school run tacky and performative. There have been a few posts on the subject of immaculately coiffured and made up women, usually descending into unpleasant comments about how to spot council house mothers. I have been equally appalled at attitudes on those threads, btw.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:39

WhereHasMyPlanetGone · 30/05/2025 18:32

You just keep throwing in more bollocks posts don’t you? 😂

Well it happens to be true.

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ForeveraBluebird · 30/05/2025 18:34

@YourAmplePlumPoster , like you I would never wear pyjamas outside. You talk about beautiful manners etc, but I don’t really think using an outdated expression like ‘wrong in the head’ is very appropriate or kind.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 18:34

WhereHasMyPlanetGone · 30/05/2025 18:32

You just keep throwing in more bollocks posts don’t you? 😂

Considering how many "nice hotels" OP stays at, you'd think she'd have a better handle on being nice.

WhereHasMyPlanetGone · 30/05/2025 18:32

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:29

I went to India a couple of years ago on an organised tour. Stayed in a very nice hotel in Shimla in the Himalayas. There was a notice saying please do not come to breakfast in your pyjamas. So I imagine that notice was directed at the badly behaved Brits not at the Indian guests who were beautifully turned out and well dressed.

You just keep throwing in more bollocks posts don’t you? 😂

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:29

I went to India a couple of years ago on an organised tour. Stayed in a very nice hotel in Shimla in the Himalayas. There was a notice saying please do not come to breakfast in your pyjamas. So I imagine that notice was directed at the badly behaved Brits not at the Indian guests who were beautifully turned out and well dressed.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 18:26

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:23

Why is it inappropriate to wear jewellery and dress up?

For the school run? Why is it appropriate? Also try reading, I did say it's because it will look like you're trying to get with one of the dads. Or, another thought, just prove you're "better" than the other mums.

There's a woman in my office who wears cocktail dresses, diamonds (or at least diamond effect) and full "night out" make up every day she's in. She has thrown herself at several male co workers, despite both them and her being married. People talk about the fact she dresses like that purely for the attention and in an attempt to "snag" one of the men.

Parker231 · 30/05/2025 18:24

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:23

Why is it inappropriate to wear jewellery and dress up?

I don’t wear makeup and jewellery for any occasion.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:23

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 18:21

Ah yes, the natural next step from silk pyjamas at breakfast is taking a dump in public.

Let people eat breakfast in whatever clothes they want. I'm sure you wear things other people deem inappropriate for the occasion. I don't see jewellery at 730am for the school run as necessary and anyone "done up" for just that trip out is inappropriate (school mum friends will be gossiping that you're after the dad's).

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Why is it inappropriate to wear jewellery and dress up?

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EdithBond · 30/05/2025 18:22

ruethewhirl · 30/05/2025 17:49

You'd ask a hotel for a refund because a guest came down in PJs??

What an earth do you expect the hotel to do about it, throw them out? (after allowing them time to dress so as not to offend your delicate sensibilities, of course)

Seriously, I think you might need a bit more to occupy your mind...

Employ staff to intercept them before they reach the breakfast room to avoid refund requests?

Or use AI to spot a pyjama at 20m?

Insist on sniffing people before they’re seated to check they’ve showered?

I wonder (if truth be told) what percentage of people eat an hotel breakfast before having a shower, but wear ‘regular clothes’ (whatever they are) rather than identifiable PJs. I’d bet a substantial proportion only wake in time to dash to breakfast before it ends, then shower afterwards, especially if they’re not checking out that day.

But apparently that’s OK, as they’re not wearing (potentially freshly laundered) PJs.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 18:21

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:10

Very soon, people will be taking a dump in public on the pavement and posters on here will be saying it's their rights, innit. That’s the way things are going here. The number of notices around saying "abuse will not be tolerated" towards public servants suggests an infantilised society where grown adults act and behave like toddlers, including refusing to dress appropriately in public.

Ah yes, the natural next step from silk pyjamas at breakfast is taking a dump in public.

Let people eat breakfast in whatever clothes they want. I'm sure you wear things other people deem inappropriate for the occasion. I don't see jewellery at 730am for the school run as necessary and anyone "done up" for just that trip out is inappropriate (school mum friends will be gossiping that you're after the dad's).

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 30/05/2025 18:17

Asdada · 30/05/2025 17:25

Other members of the public have to look at you in your PJs though. It’s disgusting and depressing and I’d be asking for a refund from any hotel that allows it. No chance I’d turn a blind eye. I don’t eat breakfast with a view of anyone in PJs even if I’m related to them.

No chance I’d turn a blind eye

What would you do then? Loudly confront a stranger in a hotel restaurant, thus causing a scene?

I wonder which of you would be considered to have the least decorum...

Superhansrantowindsor · 30/05/2025 18:13

We are a nation of scruff bags who get scruffier every day. Not saying we should all go around in a suit but I do think it’s a little sad how scruffy people are these days. I blame Lycra and shell suits. That’s when it started.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 18:10

Very soon, people will be taking a dump in public on the pavement and posters on here will be saying it's their rights, innit. That’s the way things are going here. The number of notices around saying "abuse will not be tolerated" towards public servants suggests an infantilised society where grown adults act and behave like toddlers, including refusing to dress appropriately in public.

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Augarden · 30/05/2025 18:05

I just think it violates the sanctity of pyjamas 😂 How can your pyjamas feel lovely and comfy at the end of the day if you've worn them outside?

ObelixtheGaul · 30/05/2025 17:57

henlake7 · 30/05/2025 17:44

Those people who think its fine and they are just clothes, 'who cares!? mind your own business!', how about going out in your underwear or just a towel?
I mean if everything is covered and its nobodies business then is it fine to be shopping in boxers or a slip? Would you clutch your pearls for this or be ok with it?

Geniunely interested what the cut off point is! (I live in a fairly dodgy area and have seen some pretty hair raising sights....including a guy walking down the middle of the street in his underwear!).

My cut off point is if people are being a nuisance. Where I live, it's not uncommon to see people drunk during the day, lying on pavements outside the weather spoons, etc, shouting at passers-by. Wearing odd/minimal clothing is no threat to me unless they run up to me shouting the odds. I don't see what people wear or don't wear as something that I have any need to be bothered by.

EdithBond · 30/05/2025 17:54

Needmorelego · 30/05/2025 17:36

@Asdada Don't look if you don't like it 😂
I always show this picture on these (tedious weekly anti-pj) threads of this fantastic pair of 1920s pyjamas.
I wonder what colour they were? I wish I had the body to wear something as pretty and floaty as these.
I can't believe the non important things people get het up about.
(picture make take a minute to show)

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My nan had an outfit like that in early 30s. With flowers on.

WhateverWheneverWherever · 30/05/2025 17:52

I would have my suspicions about a poster named "ampleplumposter"🤔 Dropped a grenade and MN is not disappointing him.

Life is just too short for this, people. Live by your own values and let others live by theirs.

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