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To be quietly hating my husband

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4seasons · 29/05/2025 06:23

I’ll try to keep it short. Married over 50 years , 2 adult children together. Recent major abdominal surgery for advanced ovarian cancer. Taking some time to get over this but doing ok. Had first chemo a week ago. Horrendous side effects. Last 2 days awful diarrhoea … I have a colostomy so makes life worse.
Am getting angrier and angrier with DH . Yes … he’s cooking our meals now but I did it without comment for years … including when there were 4 of us and I had a full time job .Whilst I was in the middle of a literal shit storm last night ( sorry if TMI) he was fannying around with a clip board writing down temperatures and times . Situation reversed I’d have rung for an ambulance for him but he seems very reluctant to do this . Perhaps I’m not “ ill enough yet “? Eventually he took himself off to bed ( own room ) as he was “ very tired “. I’ve been awake all night for obvious reasons and feel ill and exhausted. He’s still snoring away , nice and comfy.
I asked for an electrolyte replacement sachet yesterday. He got me blackcurrant ones … I’m allergic to blackcurrants. Got me an alternative which I took. I now see on the box it contains live bacteria … I am on chemo and not supposed to take it !!! So now I’m panicking about infection/ sepsis.
It all sounds horribly ungrateful but dear god …common sense, care. Surely it’s not too much to ask ? I’ve done it for years through his health issues.
Only a little thing , but enraging …Went downstairs ( I’ve bedbound for a few days ) …. he’s happily tucking in to a large roast lamb dinner with a glass of red . He looks irritated at my appearance and jumps up to reheat ( yes … REHEAT…. for a chemo patient) a piece of quiche for me. I didn’t realise it wasn’t freshly cooked . There just isn’t any thoughtful genuine care / concern is there ? Or am I just too ill to be rationale ??

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Coffeeishot · 29/05/2025 08:39

I imagine this is 50 years worth of resentment just bubbling over don't let it eat away at you, does it matter if stew isn't cooked how you would do it ?

MaryGreenhill · 29/05/2025 08:36

I think you need to spell what you want need and expect out to your DH very clearly and nice. If he hasn't got a clue then he will need everything spelling out to him. Repeatedly. You will get there l am sure OP just look after yourself and take Deep breaths before you burst and take your frustration out on him . Wishing you the very best of luck hope you are feeling much better very soon 💐

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Coffeeishot · 29/05/2025 08:33

Valeriekat · 29/05/2025 08:29

Of course get the woman to do it! What low expectations you must have of men.

It sounds like this man just coasted along in life without worrying because the woman did it all, I'm not blaming the op because that's just how things were now he is "useless " because he never had to think about anything else except himself.

Gloriia · 29/05/2025 08:31

BonfireToffee · 29/05/2025 08:19

Not a single word on how utterly pathetic it is that female children and desperately ill women have to sit down full grown men to explain chemo care in toddler terms, or take over the job entirely?

Tbf it sounds like the op needs some more understanding too. Ambulances aren't usually the first port of call for chemo induced diarrhoea for example.

Perhaps they could do with a meeting with the op's specialist nurse to give them both advice on how to cope and manage things, contact numbers for support and guidance re symptoms etc.

She shouldn't have to tell her husband what to do but if women do everything for 50yrs it is no surprise that men might well flounder with a slow cooker.

I've had major surgery and my husband had to return to work, we had young dc. It is hard but it's life, we all have to develop some resilience and tolerance when we get a significant diagnosis.

Coffeeishot · 29/05/2025 08:30

I'm.sorry you are going through this you just don't want to think about anything other than resting and dealing with your illness
,however your husband is bumbling along because he doesn't know anything else my dad in his 70s would be the same he would be totally useless if my mum was seriously ill, I don't know the answer really maybe get him to prepare simpler meals so it's not stressful for you. Order in your sachets so they are the correct ones just some practical things to make your life easier .

Moonlightexpress · 29/05/2025 08:29

Op sorry to hear you're going thru this and wishing you all the best.

Aside from this sorry I'm curious why was your hubby eating a roast dinner as you say but you didn't eat the same dinner. He made himself a roast but didnt make enough for two? Sounds odd. Does he usually cook for himself only ?

Valeriekat · 29/05/2025 08:29

user1492757084 · 29/05/2025 07:56

Seek help from other women as well as your DH.
Can you ask your children to step up and learn about your care needs? One of my kids came to the pre op and made a list of all the things I couldn't remember.
She shopped for all possible medication and sick bags to combat every disaster after chemo. She took my temperature three times per day to see if I needed to go to emergency etc.

Your husband needs someone to remind him and keep him on track and it should not be you.
Be proactive in writing down food requirements and when you would like cups of tea etc.

You DH is also coping with your illness, treatment and managing new skills. His best won't be able to read your mind.
Ask him to inquire more, to ask more and to lavish TLC.
Make contact with local support group so you can talk to others feeling similar to you...or claim more alone time - I preferred that.

Of course get the woman to do it! What low expectations you must have of men.

Itsonlypantsandsocks · 29/05/2025 08:24

OP I’m so sorry you are going through this. I’m raging at him for you.

Its infuriating at the best of times when men don’t apply their skills, intellect and abilities to what they no doubt view as menial tasks that don’t require full attention (internalised misogyny as it’s always been viewed as women’s work).

But pragmatism needs to be front and centre here. The anger will just make you feel worse.

May be write him a letter asking him for what you need - be really clear that this is one of the scariest times in your life and how he handles this will define your future relationship and how you see him. Sandwich it between thanking him and praising him for what you can.

Then sit in it for a bit and then decide whether or not to send it.

But once it’s written try and breathe the anger out. Let go of the things you can’t control. Do what you can to make yourself more comfortable.

Come here and have a really good moan about that idiot man!!

And yes he will underestimate and invalidate your experience and you will need to make the call if you need an ambulance. Again - internalised misogyny.

Is there a good friend you could ask for help? Someone to cook you the odd meal. Be on standby to call an ambulance if you think you need it?

Also might be helpful to talk to others who have been through Chemo. I bet you are not the first woman to feel this way about her useless lump of a husband.

BonfireToffee · 29/05/2025 08:23

kingprawnspaghetti · 29/05/2025 06:49

You need to be a gentler towards him. It’s awful what you’re going through but it sounds like he’s trying hard and probably dealing with some quite strong emotions of his own. Is he doing those things deliberately to annoy you? Hopefully not. In which case, he’s just being a bit thoughtless and forgetful. Can you write it down for him what you can and can’t have?

Does she fuck as like need to be “gentler” with this selfish man baby.

You’re seriously suggesting it’s reasonable that a horribly ill woman be forced to baby-step her life partner through not being so shit that he puts her life at risk??

Teanbiscuits33 · 29/05/2025 08:22

OP, I understand completely why you’re feeling as you are at the moment, you’re going through a lot and it does seem as though your husband isn’t considering your needs, especially if you feel like you were always attuned to his, but not everybody thinks the same way.

What I will say though is I agree with pp, it sounds as if your emotions are heightened here and you’re expecting your DH to somehow mind read or know what you need or want instinctively when he is probably out of his depth and dealing with some horrible emotions himself. He’s only human - you didn’t realise your electrolyte drink contained live bacteria else you wouldn’t have asked him to get it, yet you expect him to automatically know what’s what? I get that he should have realised your blackcurrant allergy but we all make mistakes.

You say you’re ’quietly’ hating him, which suggests you aren’t communicating. You can’t really expect him always to know things without communicating what you need. Sometimes mistakes happen or people do things clumsily even if they are well intentioned.

Wishing you the very best recovery 🌺

Kittylickingplate · 29/05/2025 08:21

You have a bloody good whinge, you deserve it!

I am sorry, I am sure you have looked after everyone else and now you need a bit back. He can step up and think a bit harder!

BonfireToffee · 29/05/2025 08:19

user1492757084 · 29/05/2025 07:56

Seek help from other women as well as your DH.
Can you ask your children to step up and learn about your care needs? One of my kids came to the pre op and made a list of all the things I couldn't remember.
She shopped for all possible medication and sick bags to combat every disaster after chemo. She took my temperature three times per day to see if I needed to go to emergency etc.

Your husband needs someone to remind him and keep him on track and it should not be you.
Be proactive in writing down food requirements and when you would like cups of tea etc.

You DH is also coping with your illness, treatment and managing new skills. His best won't be able to read your mind.
Ask him to inquire more, to ask more and to lavish TLC.
Make contact with local support group so you can talk to others feeling similar to you...or claim more alone time - I preferred that.

Not a single word on how utterly pathetic it is that female children and desperately ill women have to sit down full grown men to explain chemo care in toddler terms, or take over the job entirely?

Ponoka7 · 29/05/2025 08:19

@Gloriia people with stomas go down hill very fast. You have a point of contact via the stoma service and Macmillian, but they generally tell you to go to A&E. As well as the BC, Stoma there's the complications from the surgery. It isn't key hole and doesn't heal as well as usual because of the stoma. A patient gets to know their output and if it is too much you can go into a coma because of dehydration. You don't have enough bowel and a colon for drinking water to make it better. Which is why the rehydration drinks are needed. If it is a blockage (no output ) then sepsis and other complications can quickly come on.

Valeriekat · 29/05/2025 08:18

kingprawnspaghetti · 29/05/2025 06:49

You need to be a gentler towards him. It’s awful what you’re going through but it sounds like he’s trying hard and probably dealing with some quite strong emotions of his own. Is he doing those things deliberately to annoy you? Hopefully not. In which case, he’s just being a bit thoughtless and forgetful. Can you write it down for him what you can and can’t have?

Really? She has cancer and has to be kind to HIM? OP must be at least my age 66 so unless husband has some sort of dementia he should be taking better care of her.
Anyone having chemo is given very detailed guidance on avoiding infection. There is no excuse for him not knowing.
LTB

5128gap · 29/05/2025 08:14

You've spent 50 years looking after him and taking the lead on, if not all of, the domestic responsibility and he isn't able to adjust to the change. He has had a life time of putting himself first with you facilitating it. To expect a turn around now is unrealistic. This isn't an excuse for him, it's simply pragmatism. As I doubt you're considering LTB, I think you're going to have to find a way to lower your expectations because the stress and rage isn't good for you. I'd try sitting him down for a tough talk, with clear requests as to what you need him to do.

CannotWaitForSummervibes · 29/05/2025 08:14

Gently op, you’re BOTH going through hell and your husband is probably doing his best. I had chemo years ago and never knew you’re not supposed to reheat quiche… chemo hit me very hard and I was totally knackered, I had zero patience. And my husband did his best to do everything, but he was scared to hell of losing his wife so between him having to learn how to do things I normally did and his emotions (which he tried to hide from me) obviously things didn’t always happen smoothly. Food was overcooked, undercooked etc, he got other stuff than I had asked for, some things were forgotten, skipped …. But it was NEVER done intentionally and I think you need to remember your husband is probably not intentionally doing these things that annoy you. He is doing his best and if you think he needs to do something differently you have to tell him what you want him to do. Eg why didn’t you just say “jack can you call an ambulance”?

BonfireToffee · 29/05/2025 08:14

Musclewoman · 29/05/2025 07:20

It sounds like he's doing his best and you're taking everything out on him to be honest....so what if he was eating dinner with wine? Surely he's entitled to eat and have a glass of wine....Perhaps he looked irritated because it was the first time he'd sat down to eat something proper and you turned up looking disgruntled.
How was he supposed to know you can't have live bacteria? You need to tell him things not expect him to automatically know!
I'm sorry you're unwell OP and I really hope you reach the road to recovery soon, just remember your husband is only human too and also needs food and rest, you can't pour from an empty cup! 💐

How is he supposed to know? Do some fucking research to try and help keep his partner of decades alive and well?

Jesus wept, the low standards we expect women to accept.

Ponoka7 · 29/05/2025 08:14

I'll defend him on the wanting a meal and drink, however he should have checked you had everything first.
My DP has a stoma after bowel cancer, he was discharged February and it was hard going for both of us. I was doing the bed changes and full care. I was that run down I got conjunctivitis, UTI, cold sores. This was on the back of being at the hospital, nearly lising him (while he's blussfully on morphine). However part of the stress was the research and the adjustment. My first supermarket shops took hours, reading packets etc. We've taken a temporary break among all this (I was still supplying food and changing the bed etc). Unless you are living it, you probably wouldn't understand the stress. We have to share a bed, so both if us are up every two ish hours. I've had three children as a LP, worked in care and cared for relatives, but I'm feeling my age (near 60) and it's bloody tough.
Good communication, both talking about how you are feeling and fears. Talk about your struggles.
Him to get on all the FB pages and know when you need medical care. Make full use of your stoma support and Macmillian (we were bloody lucky with ours).
He needs a break when possible, so appreciate him wanting to eat/have a glass of red. I eat mushrooms out of his sight.
We now joke that covering me with his shit isn't an act of love etc you will get there. But posters will want you to LTB, somewhere in the middle is more realistic.

SaintAgatha · 29/05/2025 08:12

@andthat I absolutely agree. I guess it’s about having that conversation, though that just involves more emotional labour from OP.

Pigeon31 · 29/05/2025 08:10

All the vibes, @4seasons - so sorry to hear you are going through this and hope you feel a bit better soon.

"He proudly put a beef stew in the slow cooker yesterday..."

I think you should award yourself a gold medal for this though! I'm still working on building OH confidence up to make a basic pasta sauce.

Gloriia · 29/05/2025 08:04

4seasons · 29/05/2025 07:14

I think a lot of my internal anger is coming from fear and feeling so ill.
He’s been a good bloke over the years .. a damn sight better than some of my friends partners. To be fair though I helped knock him into shape !!
All this chemo business is new to us both . It’s scary … but I suppose I expected him to be more on top of things as the one who wasn’t ill and going through all this rubbish.
I’ve been very mindful of the fact that he is worrying and probably feels useless. I’ve insisted that he goes for his daily walk / coffee and gets out of the house a couple of times a day for his mental/ physical health. But I still feel like the carer not the cared for.
He proudly put a beef stew in the slow cooker yesterday . I was resting upstairs and could tell from the smell that it was overcooking and drying up . I had to point this out even though he was in the same room as the cooker , feet up engrossed in his book !! What was so difficult about keeping an eye on it ? It’s definitely because there are things that he’s just left to me. As I suppose there are things I’ve just left to him !
As for telling him about an ambulance. When he was taken ill a few years ago I just called one !! Why do I need to tell him what to do ??
I know when he finally wakes after 8 hours sleep he will bring me a cuppa but there will be nothing pro active about the rest of proceedings . That will be down to me however sick I feel.
I am already resenting the fact that this weekend there is a rugby match he will want to go to and I am thinking about how to facilitate this so I’m ok on my own. Did this a few weeks ago when I was feeling better than now. Years ago when the tables were turned he was horrified that I would even think of leaving him at home !! And that was just a broken leg !!
I’m a mixture of feelings at the moment. Won’t be all his fault. I need a bloody good cry and a doctor to make me better.

Your anger at your diagnosis and fear about the future is understandable but as others had said do stop taking it out of your dh.

Why would he call an ambulance surely you have community nurses or a gp to contact first.

I don't think a bit of dried up stew is a big issue. He is trying, not like he's giving you takeaways every day.

As you've said he's been a good man over the years so focus on that.

Good luck with the future Flowers.

Bananaramad · 29/05/2025 08:03

I had ovarian cancer, hysterectomy, chemo & rad therapy, My DH who had never had to cook in his life, cooked all my meals and sat down and sorted my multitude of tables, when I had to take them if i had to take them with food after food etc. he just did it , my sisters had offered to cook meals etc, but he just got on with it. Ok as pp mentioned he's not a mind reader, now tell him what you need and expect him to do. hope you feel well soon, xx

ToutesetBonne · 29/05/2025 08:02

Shoxfordian · 29/05/2025 07:01

I didn't know those things but if I was taking care of my husband when he was having chemotherapy then I absolutely would know them because I'd want to make sure I looked after him properly

Exactly this.

Women care: men don't.

Trolllol · 29/05/2025 08:01

I am pretty caring and like to make sure people are comfortable but I’m not sure I’d have thought at times to jump into action for the things you’ve highlighted OP. I think maybe this is due to your situation and being a bit angry at the world right now?