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DH throwing out my things

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fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:20

DH is a minimalist to the extreme, he has very little in terms of 'things'. Naturally I'm the opposite, a hoarder. Over the years I've conceded ground and downsized a LOT to pacify him, although it's probably fair to say that I still have too much stuff and it's also a bit messy and cluttered. Having kids has obviously brought more stuff to the house generally, but my own "stuff" is contained, with most of the house being tidy and (from my perspective at least) quite minimalist as he likes it. The "stuff" is in our bedroom (my side) to some extent, but mostly in my study which only I use.
In response to my compromises, instead of compromising too he seems to be going the other way. I'm increasingly finding my stuff in the bin, or things have just disappeared. I'm not talking about my most prized possessions, but they are things that I have bought, with my own money, for myself, that are on my side of the bedroom or in my study. I've always known not to leave things lying around in the kitchen or lounge or whatever for this reason, but it's like he's encroaching more and more on what I'd consider limited private spaces. To be fair, a lot of them are not big stuff. But even if it's just a receipt, it might be for some things I had meant to return or where I was going to claim something back as an expense. But to him, he's right and I'm wrong.
Even if it's actually something that is completely unimportant and doesn't matter to me, I still feel in principle that he shouldn't be throwing out my things from my study without checking or at the very least telling me. Am I being unreasonable?
When I pick him up on something specific, the response is always about the actual thing in question "what were you going to do with it anyway / it had a rip in it / you said yourself you have too many socks". Where for me, it's about the principle of it being up to me what to do with my own things. He says my clutter affects him as he lives here too, but he increasingly seems to be looking for it beyond surface level (while he is extremely private about his own things).
His 'need' to get rid of things also extends to perishable goods. So I might buy an expensive condiment (where he won't spend a penny more than he has to on anything), or I'll get a bottle of Baileys as a present from someone, he'll use them up as fast as he can, I'm talking days, not really 'enjoying' them as far as I can see, but just to get them out of the house. And inside I feel "hey they are my nice things", but am I just being selfish?
The other side is that I probably do have too much stuff and too much emotional attachment to 'things'. And gifts I receive like the Baileys could be in the cupboard for weeks/months otherwise. He says they're there to be used. Should I just give in?
At the moment I'm not giving in, at least not in my head, it's a huge source of frustration for me. But any effort to put a boundary in place on this, as with anything else really, is met with a bullheaded wall of stubborness ("I'm not agreeing to that"). I basically have to let it go time and again. But it's making me very anxious, what will be gone next?

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godmum56 · 30/05/2025 18:34

LHR2JFK · 30/05/2025 18:06

Assume you live with 3 others is your share of the storage volume approximately 1/4. If it is twice someone else’s as and example then maybe. If it is twice everyone else’s, or other people have had to disappear stuff so that you can expand into the vacancy then that for me would be disproportionate.

Or more simplistically (just a thought experiment) imagine food was eaten in the same proportion for every meal: would you be obese?

No that doesn’t work. My late DH liked motorbikes. He krpt three in the garage and that and his stuff filled it. My garden shed wasmuch smaller but it held all my stuff. I find it telling when you analogise it to food though….another subject where people regard others with disdain

hcee19 · 30/05/2025 18:24

Seems to me you do all the compromising and he does none. He should not be throwing anything out without your permission. They are your things, not his...Sounds to me he is only going to get worse. He needs help with this....l am a clean freak, but l would never throw anything away that didn't belong to me, because it isn't for me to decide. A trip to the GP ( if he can get an appointment), is needed. I know it's easier said than done, but this issue with him will continue to grow...

Sunholidays · 30/05/2025 18:20

I'm sorry OP but if your study is as messy as that pic, that's pretty horrible. Living with a hoarder is hell.

IsThistheMiddleofNowhere · 30/05/2025 18:18

Personally I cant stand clutter and am constantly chucking out my husband's stuff that I know he wont even miss otherwise the house would be a complete dump. I think your partner should tell you though when he throws stuff out. At least he is keeping on top of things. Sometimes its hard to let go of things as there is always the thought that you might need it at some point later but mostly you never do.

Digdongdoo · 30/05/2025 18:17

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/05/2025 18:09

If you had to store absolutely fucking everything you didn't want throwing out randomly, in one small room, it might well look like that. I would certainly not be judging based on that, give the parameters OP has to work with!

Nah, there's no good reason for a room to look anything like that. If you have a whole room for upur extra stuff and it still doesn't have a proper place or a purpose, you have too much stuff. OP is messy and her DH is a twat. Two things can be true.

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/05/2025 18:09

Digdongdoo · 30/05/2025 06:12

If your study does look anything like that, that is really really messy. Can you even use it?
He still sounds like a controlling twat.

If you had to store absolutely fucking everything you didn't want throwing out randomly, in one small room, it might well look like that. I would certainly not be judging based on that, give the parameters OP has to work with!

LHR2JFK · 30/05/2025 18:06

godmum56 · 30/05/2025 12:49

Define disproportionate

Assume you live with 3 others is your share of the storage volume approximately 1/4. If it is twice someone else’s as and example then maybe. If it is twice everyone else’s, or other people have had to disappear stuff so that you can expand into the vacancy then that for me would be disproportionate.

Or more simplistically (just a thought experiment) imagine food was eaten in the same proportion for every meal: would you be obese?

misskatamari · 30/05/2025 17:47

This is no way to live ❤️ I would seriously think about leaving in a situation like this. It’s so controlling and I can’t imagine how it feels to not feel like your home is a safe space where you can just, relax and be. I don’t mean that in a “you’re in danger” way, but not feeling like you have control over your things and surroundings because you can’t trust your husband not to remove them - it’s such a head fuck. So so not okay.

Rhaenys · 30/05/2025 17:40

Nanny0gg · 30/05/2025 17:28

It's not funny and why are you with him?

He’s my Dad. I can’t just get rid of him lol

Nanny0gg · 30/05/2025 17:30

Quebeccles · 30/05/2025 11:22

I collect books. I haven’t read some (actually, many) of them yet.

I expect that makes me a hoarder and many on this thread would deem me worthy of a shunning.

ETA: I also have a lovely old copy of Paris par arrondissement and if my DH threw it out without my knowledge I’d be utterly furious with him.

Edited

But are they in piles in every room in your house?
Or are they on bookshelves?

It's storage that makes the difference

If things are important they don't belong on the floor

Nanny0gg · 30/05/2025 17:28

Rhaenys · 30/05/2025 02:38

I’ve not said anything to him because he’ll just get defensive and do the whole “no good deed goes unpunished” thing, then refuse to help me with anything for ages after, so it’s a case of choosing my battles.

He does ask for a key, but I’ve not given him one.
I’m now chuckling remembering the time he came to my house and asked if he could throw this bag away….it was a gift bag with a gift inside it that I was about to give to somebody. 😂

It's not funny and why are you with him?

Comtesse · 30/05/2025 15:34

I am so sad you are afraid of him. He came into your house and you have thrown 90% of your possessions away. God that sucks. What a mean joyless arse. It doesn’t have to be like that.

Summersun9 · 30/05/2025 13:53

OP, I think the second sentence of your original post is what caused a number of people concern. When someone describes themselves as a 'hoarder' it conjures up all sorts of images despite mentioning only one side of the bed & the study as the areas could be filled to the point you can hardly walk through. You were right to clarify this. Hopefully you can move forward with a better understanding of how to cope with your relationship.

godmum56 · 30/05/2025 13:18

WhereIsMyJumper · 30/05/2025 13:16

Can I come? I collect books I will probably never read too 😎

Yup, all welcome and not just book collectors.....ya wanna see my fabric stash?

godmum56 · 30/05/2025 13:17

To look for a moment at the who is a hoarder and who is not question....and setting aside abuse snd coercion, I think its not about how much stuff makes you a hoarder but how you feel. Do you feel happy and relaxed in your home? I get that a maximalist and a minimalist are going to atruggle to be happy together but I don't think that either position is inherently wrong. People go on sort your life out type programs because they are unhappy with their situation. The people who who are at the furthest end of the keeping stuff spectrum are not often happy with how they are. Either they feel its a protection or its got beyond what they are able to deal with. I sort of sense disdain here from the minimalists among us......why is that?

WhereIsMyJumper · 30/05/2025 13:16

godmum56 · 30/05/2025 12:48

Come snd join me in the shunned corner. We can drink hoarded booze and gloat over our stuff.

Can I come? I collect books I will probably never read too 😎

JemimaPiddlepot · 30/05/2025 12:59

Now I have one room where I have everything that's left. It's also where I work. I do need to tidy it. The room is far messier because none of the stuff can be safely kept anywhere else in the house.
So the slow creep is not out of the study into the rest of the house, the slow creep is the creep of extreme minimalism spreading towards me. The study used to be my space but he's increasingly seeing it as the next thing to 'sort', and there's no acknowledgement whatsoever for the sacrificies I've made up to now.

This is the crux of the problem in my view. You are NOT a hoarder, but because he is so obsessive and controlling about a lack of possessions, he’s made you feel one, because you have to keep everything in one place or risk it being arbitrarily dumped. And it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, because now he will feel justified in saying “But of course you’re a hoarder, of course you have a problem - the state of your study proves it!”

Don't let him gaslight you like this. Start by getting that padlock, today.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 30/05/2025 12:51

PorgyandBess · 30/05/2025 10:46

My husband is someone with hoarding potential, so I’ll admit to frequently throwing out his stuff. He rarely, if ever, notices.

For example, he’d kept theatre programs going back 30 years. Why? I threw the lot out. Will he ever notice? No. He also had a box of maps and tourist guides. They’ve all mysteriously disappeared too. 😆 I mean, is he one day going to think, I must get out that pocket guide to Paris from the 90s? No.

So whilst I think your husband is very OTT, OP, I do have a tiny bit of sympathy. If you live with someone prone to it, you’re on high-alert for potential hoarding and crap building up. In this case though, your husband has lost sight of what’s reasonable and has tipped over into extremely controlling behaviour.

And what happens when he does notice? Do you apologise, or does he assume that he is the one to blame? Does he object to you overstepping the mark with his possessions - like with the OP?

I'm like PP: a theatre programme is a reminder of a special day out, and the only tangible memory of a live performance that remains. I like to keep them too. I have some from years ago, which bring back memories of happy times spent with loved ones who are no longer here.

How many times would you need to go to the theatre for your amassed collection of programmes to take more than a small box? And if you did have the money, free time and opportunity to go out to the theatre every week, surely they would cease to be at all special to you, wouldn't they?

godmum56 · 30/05/2025 12:49

LHR2JFK · 30/05/2025 12:18

Do you have multiple collections that require you to have a disproportionate volume of your house given over to your collections?

See the difference?

Define disproportionate

godmum56 · 30/05/2025 12:48

Quebeccles · 30/05/2025 11:22

I collect books. I haven’t read some (actually, many) of them yet.

I expect that makes me a hoarder and many on this thread would deem me worthy of a shunning.

ETA: I also have a lovely old copy of Paris par arrondissement and if my DH threw it out without my knowledge I’d be utterly furious with him.

Edited

Come snd join me in the shunned corner. We can drink hoarded booze and gloat over our stuff.

LHR2JFK · 30/05/2025 12:18

crumblingschools · 30/05/2025 11:12

@PorgyandBess I collect theatre programmes. Do you believe people shouidn’t collect things?

Do you have multiple collections that require you to have a disproportionate volume of your house given over to your collections?

See the difference?

Quebeccles · 30/05/2025 11:22

I collect books. I haven’t read some (actually, many) of them yet.

I expect that makes me a hoarder and many on this thread would deem me worthy of a shunning.

ETA: I also have a lovely old copy of Paris par arrondissement and if my DH threw it out without my knowledge I’d be utterly furious with him.

crumblingschools · 30/05/2025 11:12

@PorgyandBess I collect theatre programmes. Do you believe people shouidn’t collect things?

CameltoeParkerBowles · 30/05/2025 10:57

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

So, in other words, you're being belittled, bullied and ridden over pretty constantly. Get out. You shouldn't live your life being fearful of his reaction when you attempt to stand up for yourself.

PorgyandBess · 30/05/2025 10:46

My husband is someone with hoarding potential, so I’ll admit to frequently throwing out his stuff. He rarely, if ever, notices.

For example, he’d kept theatre programs going back 30 years. Why? I threw the lot out. Will he ever notice? No. He also had a box of maps and tourist guides. They’ve all mysteriously disappeared too. 😆 I mean, is he one day going to think, I must get out that pocket guide to Paris from the 90s? No.

So whilst I think your husband is very OTT, OP, I do have a tiny bit of sympathy. If you live with someone prone to it, you’re on high-alert for potential hoarding and crap building up. In this case though, your husband has lost sight of what’s reasonable and has tipped over into extremely controlling behaviour.