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Mr Tumble at school?

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orangesky1 · 28/05/2025 21:23

My reception child came home today saying they had been watching Mr Tumble at school - a boring and silly man - in his words!

not heard of this one before - had a Quick Look on YouTube now, and it looks completely inane.

it is otherwise a good school, so I am surprised by this. Am I missing something? Is this actually educational?

we are not anti screen time although I have a general feeling the children don’t get enough exercise in school, but that’s a topic for another day. I do think if they are showing videos, they should have some merit - either educational, informative about the world or properly artistic, entertaining or thought provoking.

Not this lowest common denominator drivel, that seems better suited to a 2 year old.

I don’t want to make a complaint but would just be interested in hearing views from those who have watched more than two minutes as maybe I am being unfair.

OP posts:
DurinsBane · 29/05/2025 00:00

Mr Tumble was awarded an OBE due to his work with disabilities/ inclusion

Needspaceforlego · 28/05/2025 23:55

x2boys · 28/05/2025 21:38

I'm not sure he did
As the parent of a severely disabled non verbal teen, I always it incredibly patronising.

I always thought he was very patronising towards the children he had on the show too.
Yeeeeass that right Timmy. The ball is red!

He seems to have a disproportionate amount of time. Every time I put ceebiees on it was him and he drove me nuts.

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:53

Leftrightmiddle · 28/05/2025 23:40

It really isn't . BSL can be used with everyone and isn't limited or artificial

We wouldn't dream of only using artificial limited fake English with children with additional needs. There no fake English course is there?

Makaton stole the signs from BSL while oppressing deaf people and punishing them for using signs. The signs Makaton use are from BSL but many have been copied wrong and in most cases this makes them actually harder (not easier as the Makaton organisation tries to make out)

BSL is too complex for the audience for which this series is intended. They also need to hear the words and see the symbols in order to develop their use of language.

Maybe you could campaign for a TV series aimed at deaf children. This one isn't, nor is it intended to be.

Todayisaday · 28/05/2025 23:49

Have you lived under a rock?
Mr tumble is an inclusive clown for young kids, his thing is being inclusive.
Personally I would rather watch paint dry, but kids seem to really enjoy him.
Your child called him a boring and silly man, you have called it inane drivel. But come on, he is a clown for gods sake, its meant to be silly.
I mean, yes, it is to an adult, but it is not designed for adults, it is for pre schoolers.
What age is your child?

JockyWilsonsaid · 28/05/2025 23:47

As the parent of a capital D Deaf child (now adult) we didn't care what communication system was used, we were just delighted to see a manual system used. Mr Tumble's approach meant it was accessible to all and if he were to use BSL, he would not have spoken, so that would have been excluding those with complex and profound needs.

Leftrightmiddle · 28/05/2025 23:40

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:34

It really isn't more inclusive. Makaton is the formal, accessible sign language for children with special educational needs, who this series was planned for. Not deaf children.

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It really isn't . BSL can be used with everyone and isn't limited or artificial

We wouldn't dream of only using artificial limited fake English with children with additional needs. There no fake English course is there?

Makaton stole the signs from BSL while oppressing deaf people and punishing them for using signs. The signs Makaton use are from BSL but many have been copied wrong and in most cases this makes them actually harder (not easier as the Makaton organisation tries to make out)

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:36

SquashedSquid · 28/05/2025 23:33

I'm not daft, thanks.

There are plenty of threads like it.

There might be, but had you read the OP's responses it's pretty clear that she quickly recognises that it's a valid and helpful series.

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:34

Leftrightmiddle · 28/05/2025 23:32

Would be more inclusive to use actual sign language used in the UK BSL
Makaton is copied from BSL (very badly) and very limited.
BSL is far more inclusive and educational

It really isn't more inclusive. Makaton is the formal, accessible sign language for children with special educational needs, who this series was planned for. Not deaf children.

SquashedSquid · 28/05/2025 23:33

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:32

Don't be daft. And the OP has been quick to admit that she was wrong.

I'm not daft, thanks.

There are plenty of threads like it.

Leftrightmiddle · 28/05/2025 23:32

BuffaloCauliflower · 28/05/2025 21:26

Mr Tumble is about inclusion for all children, children with disabilities are included in the programme, and he teaches signing for children. It’s about speech and language. It’s absolutely appropriate and educational for 2 or 4 year olds. How much did you watch before deciding it was inane? Also worth remembering you are not the target audience for these programmes.

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Would be more inclusive to use actual sign language used in the UK BSL
Makaton is copied from BSL (very badly) and very limited.
BSL is far more inclusive and educational

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:32

SquashedSquid · 28/05/2025 23:31

Is this another one of those veiled, goady threads to generate more ableism?

Don't be daft. And the OP has been quick to admit that she was wrong.

SquashedSquid · 28/05/2025 23:31

Is this another one of those veiled, goady threads to generate more ableism?

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:30

x2boys · 28/05/2025 23:15

I haven't seen the programme for years do they use any other communication devices?
Everybody goes on about how great he is for using makaton,(in fact its signalong,in my LA )hich my son has never used he's used PECS in the past, and now uses a communication board.

I've not seen it recently. Symbols were used when I last saw it, but probably not the ones that your DC uses. Something Special uses the black and white ones, whereas at my school we used PECS with Widget symbols.

BeaTwix · 28/05/2025 23:28

I work with lots of kids with additional needs. Mr Tumble and similar programming has done a huge amount to make children with complex needs more included and seen children's television programmes. Various parents have commented on how important it has been for their kids over the years both for them, their children and their kids siblings.

Think yourself lucky that you aren't trying to help settle a child dependent on Makaton or any other communication support system into primary or another settings.

Even as a specialist children's hospital very few staff have decent levels of Makaton. I can explain my name and job role and that's about it. Even that is rusty and I suspect that probably puts me ahead of many of my consultant colleagues.

PickAChew · 28/05/2025 23:17

PeapodMcgee · 28/05/2025 22:12

CYLINDER!!

Zero.

x2boys · 28/05/2025 23:15

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:00

I also think the programme has done wonders for inclusivity, and that children in general are much more accepting and positive about children with special needs, due to this long running series.

I haven't seen the programme for years do they use any other communication devices?
Everybody goes on about how great he is for using makaton,(in fact its signalong,in my LA )hich my son has never used he's used PECS in the past, and now uses a communication board.

sunsetsandsquabbles · 28/05/2025 23:09

Mr Tumble (aka Justin Fletcher) is incredible for inclusion and he uses Makaton! The programme is a great example of quality TV programming (sadly lacking on Netflix and Disney +)! Perfect for preschoolers and reception age children! Even if my child was older and watching it, I wouldn’t have a problem!

blacksantanapkin · 28/05/2025 23:05

Wasn’t there a thread years ago where a mumsnetter claimed to have slept with him 🤣

Cakeandusername · 28/05/2025 23:04

I remember Justin Fletcher getting an award, he got an MBE for services to children’s broadcasting.

Theimpossiblegirl · 28/05/2025 23:03

Where are you that it's not May half term? Other holidays vary but I thought this one was the same everywhere.

saraclara · 28/05/2025 23:00

I also think the programme has done wonders for inclusivity, and that children in general are much more accepting and positive about children with special needs, due to this long running series.

saraclara · 28/05/2025 22:57

... And if course Mr Tumble is meant to be silly! Justin's alter ego is a clown! The programme is meant to teach and to entertain small children.

orangesky1 · 28/05/2025 22:55

CorbyTrouserPress · 28/05/2025 22:52

My mind is blown that you have a reception age child and haven’t heard of Mr Tumble.

My mind is blown that Mr Tumble is such a thing and has seemingly passed us by! 🤣

OP posts:
saraclara · 28/05/2025 22:54

I taught 5-7 year olds in a special school. They didn't have an afternoon break, so in the middle of every afternoon I'd put Something Special on so that a) the children had a break b) they'd have a chance to practice Makaton c) so that we could clear up after the first lesson and get the classroom really for the next activity.

CorbyTrouserPress · 28/05/2025 22:52

My mind is blown that you have a reception age child and haven’t heard of Mr Tumble.