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To be shocked at landlord’s allegations about me

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JustWowser · 28/05/2025 13:34

I am currently suing my previous landlord for very good reason.

She is defending the claim. Part of my claim is for emotional distress and stress which is clearly evidenced.

Got her defence this morning and it is pretty ridiculous but at the end she has stated the great stress she has been under since I was given her address (letting refused at first until I informed them if the law), that she has chest pains, couldn’t work and had to go to her GP for stress.

She also stated that she has had nightmares that I would burn her house down while her children were in it.

This has shaken me tbh, that someone would say this about me. I’m a regular Mum, never made any threats or abuse to her. It is a shocking thing to say.

What do you think the court is going to think of this?

OP posts:
Branleuse · 28/05/2025 15:56

PrincessofWells · 28/05/2025 15:53

So basically you're complaining the landlord carried out repairs and that caused you stress. I do hope you come up with something better than that 😂

The landlord knew that extensive works were needed, but rented out the house without telling new tenants that they would be living in a building site, is more how im reading it.

Branleuse · 28/05/2025 15:54

I hope you win OP. She sounds like a bloody nightmare landlord.
I had a landlord once who got her dad and his mates to do any job on the house that was falling to pieces. The amount of stress it caused was unreal.
Ive had good landlords and bad. Too many of them dont want to provide even the legal minimum.
Im so grateful not to be renting anymore.

PrincessofWells · 28/05/2025 15:53

So basically you're complaining the landlord carried out repairs and that caused you stress. I do hope you come up with something better than that 😂

NeverDropYourMooncup · 28/05/2025 15:53

That she's going for a histrionic/emotive attempt to manipulate them into ruling in her favour.

mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 15:51

How many baths or showers were taken before the water problem became obvious and how soon after that did you notify the LL of the issue? How soon after notification did work commence, when was it finished, and did it been to be redone?

You need clear, documented timelines of all the bodged work, including tradesman details, LL's receipts, statements from tradesmen as to length of time spent on the jobs, scope of work, whether previous repairs had been bodged...

mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 15:47

I would assume a rental with enough room for OP and two children would cost more per month than the max for small claims court, unless I've missed where the OP mentioned the specific court.

Springadorable · 28/05/2025 15:15

If you knew that using the bath and shower caused water to pour through the ceiling, and you continued to do so, then you're not in the best position. You've caused a lot of damage and it sounds like she's been proactive about getting people in to fix it.

PsychoHotSauce · 28/05/2025 15:10

mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 15:07

This, with bells on.

@JustWowserplease take this advice. The threat of costs awarded to you will make her see sense.

You don't get costs awarded in a small claim like this. Each side pays their own costs.

MrMucker · 28/05/2025 15:10

So
You're unhappy because there were faults and damage and her response was to instigate work to fix it all?

mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 15:07

Dotjones · 28/05/2025 14:47

If she's representing herself you should get a solicitor to represent you. Always try to stay one step ahead. She's defending the claim herself because she knows that you don't have a solicitor representing you - there's no risk to her, either you win or you lose, but it won't cost her more than if she caved in. Get yourself a solicitor so that if you win you can pass some of the costs onto her. That might make her realise it's not worth defending the claim.

This, with bells on.

@JustWowserplease take this advice. The threat of costs awarded to you will make her see sense.

JustWowser · 28/05/2025 15:07

hattie43 · 28/05/2025 14:56

Maybe she was instructed to do the works by the council or they were legally required. There are times when building works are an upheaval even for those who are home owners . You sound like a massive ball ache as a tenant tbh . Do you think you’re landlady doesn’t need to pay the mortgage if works need to be done . The bank doesn’t come to her and say you’ve got noise and disruption so don’t pay us . Entitled much . Good luck to your next landlord .

No she had to because there was water pouring through the ceiling every time we used the bath or shower. Issues easily foreseen before we moved in, they didn’t suddenly appear.

No we absolutely should not have been rented a property that needed long put off major repairs as soon as we moved in, without being warned, leading to months of disruption. stress and invasion of privacy!

We had no say or knowledge in whether the property was properly maintained before we moved in unlike a homeowner (which I have been myself so know the difference very well) so absolutely no comparison.

New landlord has no issues with me. Informed of repairs that needed doing on viewing and they were done before we moved in.

OP posts:
hattie43 · 28/05/2025 14:56

Maybe she was instructed to do the works by the council or they were legally required. There are times when building works are an upheaval even for those who are home owners . You sound like a massive ball ache as a tenant tbh . Do you think you’re landlady doesn’t need to pay the mortgage if works need to be done . The bank doesn’t come to her and say you’ve got noise and disruption so don’t pay us . Entitled much . Good luck to your next landlord .

NancySpain1 · 28/05/2025 14:49

2ndbestslayer · 28/05/2025 13:45

Yanbu. Even though she has been clever enough to word it so she's not directly accusing you of threatening behaviour the implication is clearly there isn't it?

Not especially clever tbh...we can all see her wording and it not accusing op of anything. I imagine the courts will see that too.

If anyone could go around suing anyone else because they had nightmares and their own imaginations had got the better of them, the courts would be packed out!

I imagine both the stress claims will not get much time spent on them by the courts. I think the legal threshold to sue for stress is a lot higher than "she wanted my address and I imagined she would torch my house and I had NIGHTMARES"

ScupperedbytheSea · 28/05/2025 14:49

Courts tend to deal in facts and losses. So if you incurred costs yourself because of the landlord's negligence (and can produce receipts etc), that's the sort of thing you'd be able to claim. For example, putting work right at your expense, or taking unpaid leave from work to deal with a problem the landlord should have sorted.

They won't deal with monetary compensation because you felt stressed or because your landlord had nightmares (with no material impact).

Sagegreenduck · 28/05/2025 14:47

JustWowser · 28/05/2025 14:45

Well that advice was wrong (I’ve had free legal advice since then) but thanks for your input. Not sure what you point are trying to make as we are a way along now as was obvious from my post.

I hope to show other tenants that you can take your landlord to court and win and you don’t need to put up with being treated like cash cows with no rights, and treated like scum.

but you haven’t won? So you still have nothing to demonstrate?

Dotjones · 28/05/2025 14:47

If she's representing herself you should get a solicitor to represent you. Always try to stay one step ahead. She's defending the claim herself because she knows that you don't have a solicitor representing you - there's no risk to her, either you win or you lose, but it won't cost her more than if she caved in. Get yourself a solicitor so that if you win you can pass some of the costs onto her. That might make her realise it's not worth defending the claim.

JustWowser · 28/05/2025 14:45

Sagegreenduck · 28/05/2025 14:36

You’ve posted about this before? You were advised then that you could only sue for actual loss so wouldn’t get the whole six months and you would likely damage the credibility of your claim if you did?

Well that advice was wrong (I’ve had free legal advice since then) but thanks for your input. Not sure what you point are trying to make as we are a way along now as was obvious from my post.

I hope to show other tenants that you can take your landlord to court and win and you don’t need to put up with being treated like cash cows with no rights, and treated like scum.

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 14:44

If you hire a solicitor shell probably start talking settlement.

mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 14:42

You need to hire a solicitor, OP.

Representing yourself is stupid.

mathanxiety · 28/05/2025 14:41

JustWowser · 28/05/2025 13:38

Yes but what does that convey?

It conveys that she is grasping at straws.

She can't prove 'nightmares' or anything else she has stated in her response. Dragging her children into this is a sure sign of trying it on.

Don't take any of this personally. You are suing her and her allegatiins are only to be expected. Trust your legal representative to represent you and trust hers to represent her. The judge will recognise BS for what it is.

For your part, you'll need to be able to prove whatever stress or emotional distress you've claimed. Do you have a paper trail? Evidence from doctor visits?

TheNightSurgeon · 28/05/2025 14:41

JustWowser · 28/05/2025 14:36

Representing myself, not that stupid! So is she.

I just can’t get over writing down such a sick thought about someone in a legal document that has absolutely no basis in reality to get sympathy!

You can't really blame her for saying what she can (and who's to say it isn't true) in order to get sympathy and help with her case.

The courts are used to it and can generally work through what's real and what's hyperbole.

Sagegreenduck · 28/05/2025 14:36

You’ve posted about this before? You were advised then that you could only sue for actual loss so wouldn’t get the whole six months and you would likely damage the credibility of your claim if you did?

JustWowser · 28/05/2025 14:36

Representing myself, not that stupid! So is she.

I just can’t get over writing down such a sick thought about someone in a legal document that has absolutely no basis in reality to get sympathy!

OP posts:
JustWowser · 28/05/2025 14:32

The claim is for breach of contract and breach of landlord legislation causing us to have contractors in and out of the property for 6 months (lack of peaceful enjoyment, I WFH) out of an 8 month tenancy because she kept doing bodgejobs and loss of amenities included in the tenancy. and also a pest infestation caused by lack of maintenance and major repairs that there is evidence were known about before the start of the tenancy.

She refused to offer a reasonable compensation (1 months rent) so I’m suing her for the whole 6 months.

She also evicted us for absolutely no reason 8 months into a supposed long term tenancy because I made a formal complaint to the letting agent and got Environmental Heath involved. House is now advertised at a higher rent.

I had considered taking legal action months ago but decided to leave it as didn’t want to give her a reason to kick us out but she did anyway so I had nothing to lose!

have two DC with disabilities, including Autism and mental heath issues (at home all day so massively stressed by constant people in and out and 8 weeks of prolonged building work in his safe space!) and it was an absolute nightmare from 10 days after moving in when the ceiling almost caved in from a massive leak that was easily preventable given the information I found out later.

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BobbyBiscuits · 28/05/2025 14:20

What is it you're actually suing her for?
Presuming you have evidence to corroborate your story then just counteract the accusations she makes about you with proof.

You have never threatened her with harm or with burning down her house, so the things she says in that regard will carry little or no weight. She's entitled to say the process has been stressful and upsetting for her, as I'm sure it has.