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To think we CAN live on the mortgage

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JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 09:34

Advice please -

Couple - Earn £10,500 a month
Mortgage - 3,700 a month
Nursery - 1,000 a month

Considering all other possible outgoings, do you think we can afford this and not feel pressured each month. What am I not considering? We've done the spreadsheet but I'm still unsure.

We will have about £65,000 in savings at the beginning of this venture.

Thanks in advance. House of a lifetime.

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Givemethesun · 28/05/2025 13:25

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:03

Ironically, I stacked shelves for years to afford university.

Yes, that's true, we can knock off the 1k when he's 4. We don't plan on any significantly expensive holidays for the next 3 years (the expensive garden will be our holiday), first garden I've had in London so very excited.

Great to hear that you are affording it! Thanks for the advice.

Interesting you’re in London too. I think that size monthly mortgage in London probably isn’t that unusual given the prices of family
homes, but probably sounds absolutely astronomical to anyone outside of London

OopsyDaisly · 28/05/2025 13:24

‘Public sector and secure’ - unless you’re a doctor I wouldn’t bank on it, eg if Reform got in. Plus public sector jobs more likely to burn out (eg head teacher).

On paper it sounds absolutely fine. But one of the benefits of having two good salaries should be not having to worry if one of you loses your job or is facing physical or mental burn out and needs to leave their job.

Have you gone back to work yet after maternity leave? Also nursery at £1k in outer London is low, unless you have family help (don’t count on it if you do) or are part time.

High savings removes some of the worry and if you are still young you can presumably extend your mortgage if rates go up (assuming you aren’t taking it to 67/70 already!).

DrAnnabelle · 28/05/2025 13:23

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 12:27

That's it isn't it, you never know when the boiler packs in for example. My job is public sector and safe, DH private sector but pretty specialized so hopefully safe.

I’d strongly suggest taking out income insurance if you don’t have it already. If the worst case scenario happens and you lose your jobs, getting work easily to cover that mortgage would be challenging.
We earn slightly more than you guys but our mortgage is less than half - I wouldn’t dream of not being insured.

80smonster · 28/05/2025 13:22

Sounds doable to me.

MadamCholetsbonnet · 28/05/2025 13:21

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 12:07

I don't care.

That’s nice dear.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:20

Tadah2 · 28/05/2025 13:18

We have a take home of £14k pcm.

This is our breakdown pcm:

Mortgage: £2,500
Bills (including 2 x nursery): £4500
DH car monthly payments: £500
Petrol: £600
Train fare: £500
Hobbies for kids: £300
Days out for kids: £250
Sofas/peloton (finance): £500
cleaner: £250
gardener: £250
Car insurances/home: £200
phones: £100
Dentist plan: £45
Clothes/takeaways/meals out/birthdays/christmas/extra treats/amazon/holidays/beauty treatments/lunch at work/miscellaneous: £1k
Savings: £2.5k

If you’ve worked it all out, it should be possible to do - especially with one DC.

Edited

Thanks for taking the time, it's good to see what others spend (or expenditures that we won't have).

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Calmdownpeople · 28/05/2025 13:19

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 09:34

Advice please -

Couple - Earn £10,500 a month
Mortgage - 3,700 a month
Nursery - 1,000 a month

Considering all other possible outgoings, do you think we can afford this and not feel pressured each month. What am I not considering? We've done the spreadsheet but I'm still unsure.

We will have about £65,000 in savings at the beginning of this venture.

Thanks in advance. House of a lifetime.

OP I voted YABU because in no way can anyone say if you can afford this or not as you have missed any cost of living…these may not all apply but you get the picture….

Cars
Car insurance
Council Tax
Pensions
Home Insurance
Electric
Gas
Water
Travel
Holidays
Groceries
TV Licenses
Streaming subscriptions
Phones
Phone contract
Broadband
Gym
Pets
Lunch at work
Birthdays
Christmas
Going out
Beauty - hair cuts, nails, makeup etc
New clothes
etc etc

Make a spreadsheet and work it out.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:18

DrAnnabelle · 28/05/2025 13:13

Exactly this - in the longer term, will you be paying school fees, private health insurance etc…the money dwindles quickly if so.

No school fees, health comes with the jobs. But thanks. We are not people who 'keep up with the Jones' so don't care about holidays, travelled a lot before baby so happy to enjoy our home.

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Tadah2 · 28/05/2025 13:18

We have a take home of £14k pcm.

This is our breakdown pcm:

Mortgage: £2,500
Bills (including 2 x nursery): £4500
DH car monthly payments: £500
Petrol: £600
Train fare: £500
Hobbies for kids: £300
Days out for kids: £250
Sofas/peloton (finance): £500
cleaner: £250
gardener: £250
Car insurances/home: £200
phones: £100
Dentist plan: £45
Clothes/takeaways/meals out/birthdays/christmas/extra treats/amazon/holidays/beauty treatments/lunch at work/miscellaneous: £1k
Savings: £2.5k

If you’ve worked it all out, it should be possible to do - especially with one DC.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:16

Housemum · 28/05/2025 13:13

Factor in how much you’ve spent on annual costs over the last year (MOT, car service, home insurance, holidays, gym/golf memberships that kind of thing) and average out over the year - you need to be able to put that aside per month. I don’t know how big or old your dream house is but we moved from a small 4 bed modern house to a large 4 bed older house and the utility bills went up a lot! In the south, spend £350/month gas & electric, £350 council tax, £80 water (though we do a lot of laundry as one adult daughter is battling OCD and changes clothes a lot).

think about if you will have any more children, also nursery fees will fall away but then there might be clubs which can start cheap but end up costing loads if they get good at sport/dance/cheerleading/whatever!

we pushed ourselves a few years back to get our dream house and I love it, we were very lucky and the first couple of years were hard but things are getting easier. There are things that could do with being done (wonky block paving on drive and patio) but they aren’t essential so we will save for them.

Thank you. No more kids 😊 just the one. We are willing to wait to do anything to change the house until he finishes nursery, nothing is needed right now. No holidays for quite awhile and definitely no golf!

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safetyfreak · 28/05/2025 13:15

Damn, that sounds tough. Only fans? bit extra income.

DrAnnabelle · 28/05/2025 13:13

Potsofpetals · 28/05/2025 09:56

Yes it could potentially be tight. You haven’t said if this is net or gross.

You'll need to factor in council tax, maintenance costs, hired in services such as cleaners etc.

What about school fees? Income protection insurance, car costs and general life need to be factored in.

You could find yourself scrabbling around on a few thousand a month which really isn’t fun when your friends are on their fourth holiday of the year.

Exactly this - in the longer term, will you be paying school fees, private health insurance etc…the money dwindles quickly if so.

Housemum · 28/05/2025 13:13

Factor in how much you’ve spent on annual costs over the last year (MOT, car service, home insurance, holidays, gym/golf memberships that kind of thing) and average out over the year - you need to be able to put that aside per month. I don’t know how big or old your dream house is but we moved from a small 4 bed modern house to a large 4 bed older house and the utility bills went up a lot! In the south, spend £350/month gas & electric, £350 council tax, £80 water (though we do a lot of laundry as one adult daughter is battling OCD and changes clothes a lot).

think about if you will have any more children, also nursery fees will fall away but then there might be clubs which can start cheap but end up costing loads if they get good at sport/dance/cheerleading/whatever!

we pushed ourselves a few years back to get our dream house and I love it, we were very lucky and the first couple of years were hard but things are getting easier. There are things that could do with being done (wonky block paving on drive and patio) but they aren’t essential so we will save for them.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 28/05/2025 13:12

For the house of a lifetime, I'd be inclined to say go for it (I'm a sucker for the dream home).

BUT be very cautious with interest rises, so live frugally, keep hold of those savings, you sound sensible anyway, and I always think financially responsible people are going to take these things seriously.

I would give private school consideration though, are the state schools in the area any good? If not, I'd be looking at private.

Once you've done a full spreadsheet of expenditure for the new house, also see if you'll still be able to contribute to the savings pot. Not being able to save anything per month would make me more cautious, as that essentially means you'll not be able to afford any interest rate increases. Also bear in mind when your child is in school, all of the hobbies and interests that cost a fortune, dance classes, music lessons, sports etc.

Switcher · 28/05/2025 13:11

Suppose it makes me think I'm being too cautious. My net income is about £7000 and my mortgage is £850. But once I add on all the other fixed bills it's £1600. Our buildings insurance is over £200 as it's a listed property. I'm sure you'll be fine given new house and London but it would make me anxious.

MellowPinkDeer · 28/05/2025 13:10

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 12:33

That's a good plan...I just saw the post about the increase in water bill! Gas and electric of course, water didn't register with me.

@JaneEyre40our bills are basically another £650

Scottsy200 · 28/05/2025 13:09

This is peak Mumsnet surely

angela1952 · 28/05/2025 13:09

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:07

No renovation and it's outer London.

Yes, DD is in outer London too. Council tax here is higher than Wandsworth and nurseries are expensive and rise regularly.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:08

DrBloom · 28/05/2025 13:06

You can always sell photos of your feet if you find you have more month left than salary.

I can't afford a pedicure with my mortgage I thought that much was clear 😬😂

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JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:07

angela1952 · 28/05/2025 12:56

Also £1000 a month for a London nursery sounds low. My DD paid £1500 a couple of years ago, and you do need to budget for this going up regularly. But on @JaneEyre40's household income this should be fine.

We'd love to have earned this much between us (now retired) but wonder if the renovation costs have been fully included or whether they're doing it on the basis of paying for it when they can afford it. Apologies if this has already been posted.
Even if the outgoings seem affordable many still find that they can't afford what they used to take for granted (such as regular holidays) or to cope with unexpected costs such as a new boiler or having to replace a car. If all the OP's current savings will go on the renovation it will be important to build up that buffer for unforseen unemployment as quickly as possible.
I'd love to know where this house is in London!

No renovation and it's outer London.

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YinYangalang · 28/05/2025 13:07

Based on your updates I would go for it.

DrBloom · 28/05/2025 13:06

You can always sell photos of your feet if you find you have more month left than salary.

Nina1013 · 28/05/2025 13:05

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 12:12

Yes exactly, we put down a deposit of about £300,000. We thought putting more money into the deposit was better than holding back savings.

1 child that's it.

State school 100%

Salary 1 - 4,200 monthly net
Salary 2 - 5,200 monthly net

Large house but not old. Council tax is 230 monthly.

Based on this, yes I would be comfortable with it. How I like to look at it is, if one person lost their job, how much pressure does that put us under? If the other person could take a minimum wage job doing absolutely anything and make the important ends meet, then it’s a yes.

If your split was £9000 one person and £1500 another I would say absolutely not, because if the high earner lost their job and couldn’t very quickly find another, you’d be totally screwed. This doesn’t apply here, so I would go for it.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:04

Again, you literally clicked into MY room. 🙄

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JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 13:03

Givemethesun · 28/05/2025 12:54

Some odd comments here about stacking shelves. I think that’s fine although you leave out some details - ie presumably your nursery fees will drop away once dc (1 or 2?) are at school?
our income post tax is 9200, our mortgage is 2,800 (we opt to over pay) and nursery is 1,200. We have 2 high end holidays a year and live in London.

it’s fine x

Ironically, I stacked shelves for years to afford university.

Yes, that's true, we can knock off the 1k when he's 4. We don't plan on any significantly expensive holidays for the next 3 years (the expensive garden will be our holiday), first garden I've had in London so very excited.

Great to hear that you are affording it! Thanks for the advice.

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