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To think we CAN live on the mortgage

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JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 09:34

Advice please -

Couple - Earn £10,500 a month
Mortgage - 3,700 a month
Nursery - 1,000 a month

Considering all other possible outgoings, do you think we can afford this and not feel pressured each month. What am I not considering? We've done the spreadsheet but I'm still unsure.

We will have about £65,000 in savings at the beginning of this venture.

Thanks in advance. House of a lifetime.

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Fancyflorist · 28/05/2025 15:21

I've not read the full thread but what you've quoted as your net salaries don't add up to £10.5k.

Our monthly income is £10.5k and our mortgage is lower but we put a lot in savings every month. We could manage on your mortgage but our savings would take a big knock.

We have two kids, one at nursery (although starting (state) school soon!)

MissBx1 · 28/05/2025 15:21

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 15:17

I actually love my job! But thanks for the concern. Highly stressful but in the best possible way (don't know where you saw horrible in my posts?) Also, I said bitter (potato/potAto) not jealous.

You literally got sh*tty with people saying your job was really stressful, it sounds like you love it. Maybe your stressful job is causing your anger. Life’s too short to work a stressful job for 40 hours a week.

Ineedanewsofa · 28/05/2025 15:20

We have a similar net monthly income and commit £3100 to the mortgage each month (£600 of that is overpayment).
As other PP have said it’s the maintenance costs of the ‘big house’ that have been a bit of an eye opener - we pay over £400 per month gas and electric for example and because of the type of property we’ve had to use a specialist insurer (hopefully you won’t have this issue!).
It’ll feel tighter than it is for a while because the amounts involved sound enormous (another working class girl made good over here!) but as long as the percentages are right as soon as you’re free of the nursery costs and can put that into savings it should all feel much more comfortable.
Oh and this thread is the perfect example of why people don’t talk about money - the fact that you and your partner will pay more in tax and national insurance in a year than a lot of people earn seems to be completely unacknowledged by those rushing to slate you!

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 15:20

MiracleCures · 28/05/2025 15:15

This thread has shown a really nasty side to some mumsnetters.

Its a reasonable question and a lot of the principles apply at whatever salary level /mortgage level

Op and her husband earn decent salaries but they are hardly Bezos levels.

Some people hate the idea of others doing well. It's a problem in society in general, I won't go into that, wouldn't want to start WW3.

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JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 15:19

OldieButBaddie · 28/05/2025 15:16

I think it's dependent on your age/future earnings. If you are in jobs where your income is going to increase, then quite quickly the amount you owe will be a lower percentage of your income.

Think ahead to school fees if you are considering private education. Even now £30k a year is not unusual, will likely be a lot more by the time your dc is of secondary age. If you had another child for eg then you're looking at £5k a month today!

Thank you. So many asking about private ed, we hadn't considered it, both state educated age I work in the state sector. One child, definitely. I'm 40, partner is 45.

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Lighteningstrikes · 28/05/2025 15:18

I guess you’re in a bit of a catch 22 because you’re in a very expensive area.

My main concern would be if your DH lost his job. Unlikely, but could it be possible? It’s the million dollar question. There are insurances but they are very expensive.

It’s very much a positive that the house doesn’t need any work, because projects always eat up a lot of money.

It would be well worth researching different lenders.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 15:17

MissBx1 · 28/05/2025 15:12

Wow you sound nice. Why would we be jealous? You admitted you have a horrible stressful job? I’ll take my easy work from home job for less money thanks. Why would I want a horrible stressful job? Life’s too short.

I actually love my job! But thanks for the concern. Highly stressful but in the best possible way (don't know where you saw horrible in my posts?) Also, I said bitter (potato/potAto) not jealous.

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user1471600850 · 28/05/2025 15:16

No advice but there are some funny comments on here - people don't just earn large salaries without working for them (usually anyway) and not only poor people can ask for advice that is why it is a forum! Op is totally owning the batshit comments - favourite ever My room, my thread!!!

OldieButBaddie · 28/05/2025 15:16

I think it's dependent on your age/future earnings. If you are in jobs where your income is going to increase, then quite quickly the amount you owe will be a lower percentage of your income.

Think ahead to school fees if you are considering private education. Even now £30k a year is not unusual, will likely be a lot more by the time your dc is of secondary age. If you had another child for eg then you're looking at £5k a month today!

MiracleCures · 28/05/2025 15:15

This thread has shown a really nasty side to some mumsnetters.

Its a reasonable question and a lot of the principles apply at whatever salary level /mortgage level

Op and her husband earn decent salaries but they are hardly Bezos levels.

diddlydooda · 28/05/2025 15:13

I think you will be okay, but it depends how much you'll worry about it. Our large mortgage keeps me awake at night, especially as we are currently on a low fixed rate and in two years we will likely face a significant rise. Plus we are in late forties/early fifties with fifteen years to pay so no option to take the foot off the pedal in demanding and stressful jobs. Perils of working in London from early twenties and necessarily taking some time to save a deposit due to high rents and working up the chain to a decent salary bracket to be able to afford a large mortgage.

MissBx1 · 28/05/2025 15:12

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 15:09

It doesn't bother me in the slightest. Just sad to think there are so many bitter people (women I'm assuming mostly).

Wow you sound nice. Why would we be jealous? You admitted you have a horrible stressful job? I’ll take my easy work from home job for less money thanks. Why would I want a horrible stressful job? Life’s too short.

FknOmniShambles · 28/05/2025 15:11

This thread is staggering - what the fuck is wrong with so many of you?
So what if she earns well? Are you really so embarrassingly jealous you can't just scroll on by? You have to pile on with yet another iteration of the same, tired snarky insults? The OP quite clearly doesn't give a fuck, but the comments keep piling on, just trying and trying to cause hurt or get a reaction.
Get a fucking life.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 15:09

Tadah2 · 28/05/2025 15:04

I think you are getting a hard time. Everyone has the right to post these questions, even with a larger income. And, as detailed in my pp, we wouldn’t be able to afford it without some cut backs and we take home more than OP. I am very fortunate to be in my position too, but we cannot be prevented from uploading legitimate questions because the fact of the matter is, people earn these incomes (whether you like it or not).

It doesn't bother me in the slightest. Just sad to think there are so many bitter people (women I'm assuming mostly).

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Emmz1510 · 28/05/2025 15:09

Yes

WorryBear · 28/05/2025 15:06

Its totally doable on this income. If your job is secure I would go for it. If not I would think twice about it as if one of you gets redundant, your house expenses will eat the other salary.

I personally wouldn't do it, as I think if one of us is jobless we will really struggle with such fixed cost.

If you can afford to overpay and get this down... maybe is OK.

Tadah2 · 28/05/2025 15:04

I think you are getting a hard time. Everyone has the right to post these questions, even with a larger income. And, as detailed in my pp, we wouldn’t be able to afford it without some cut backs and we take home more than OP. I am very fortunate to be in my position too, but we cannot be prevented from uploading legitimate questions because the fact of the matter is, people earn these incomes (whether you like it or not).

lightslittle · 28/05/2025 15:01

This is definitely doable - I agree things to consider are building up a buffer of house savings and a buffer in your bills account.

if your looking at this now then you’ll already be on a higher mortgage rate and it may come down in the future.

we are on similar amounts, our mortgage is lower but nursery £2k per month and I was on mat leave for a year, and just about to go on mat leave again.

you’ve already said you spend pretty frugally, this has been the key to us. My husbands hobby is golf, my hobby is spending time at home in my house with my dogs, and we don’t go on extravagant holidays. Going for a weeks hiking holiday in the uk would always always be our preference than a week in the Maldives for example. Neither of us for big buyers of clothes or “stuff” or tech or anything. So general outgoings like that are pretty low for us.

I agree with people saying about what if one of you loses your job etc - hence the buffer in bills money above. You can’t predict what’s going to happen tomorrow, equally I feel the risk shouldn’t dictate how you live today!

an enormous part of our life is happiness from living in a home we love and enjoy spending time in.

MissBx1 · 28/05/2025 15:00

BCBird · 28/05/2025 09:40

Can't believe people have these sort of incomes- another world!!

Agreed. What a braggy and gross thread.

Flatulence · 28/05/2025 14:57

Yes you can afford it in principle and still have lots of leftover income.

However, whether you can afford it in reality is different.

If it's a large house then the utility bills will be significant, as will council tax and insurance; especially if the property is worth over £1m.

Larger houses require proportionally more maintenance - e.g. more rooms to decorate, more bathrooms to keep fresh and modern, a larger kitchen to replace, more radiators, a bigger boiler, a larger garden, more fence panels. You get the picture.

Does it need a refurb or any construction work? That is hugely expensive now compared to five years ago.

What else do you spend your money on? If you also like several long-haul holidays a year and have expensive hobbies or love high-end cars or eat out often or have posh gym memberships and PTs then clearly you need to budget for those and your lifestyle may not allow for a larger mortgage.

What are your long-term financial aspirations? If you wish to retire early or develop a passive income or set your child up with a home then you may be wiser to go for a less expensive home and invest money elsewhere. That's something to speak to a financial advisor about.

Finally, are you happy to take on a large mortgage with the risks involved (e.g. if one of you were to lose your job/become too ill to work). That will depend on your own appetite for risk.

As others have suggested it's certainly worth going through your bank and credit card statements and seeing what you actually spend versus what you think you spend. I'd also strongly recommend speaking an independent financial advisor to ensure your lifestyle and appetite for risk marries with your financial goals. You're in an extremely privileged position financially so make the most of it!

AzureShark · 28/05/2025 14:52

MissRaspberryRipples · 28/05/2025 12:39

Surely this is a bait post. No way can anyone on this wage be stupid enough not to know what stoppages are plus further responding they pick up £4,200 and £5,200. That's £9,400 not £10,500

In fairness to the op, I don't think 'stoppages' is a common term AT ALL in the UK.

I work for a major bank (for well over a decade). I have a banking qualification. I've worked (briefly) in HR at that bank. I've spent a long time overseeing departments that deal with financial difficulties - so the main job of many staff I manage is to discuss customer affordability. I'm a frequent flyer on the money boards on here, on MSE forums etc and I'd consider myself generally financially literate to a decent degree.

I worked out what 'stoppages' meant from the wider context of the post - but I had to chuck it in Google to confirm I was right. I've NEVER come across that term before. Not in a career in banking and finance, not personally on many many money forums etc.

Coconutter24 · 28/05/2025 14:51

LeastOfMyWorries · 28/05/2025 14:17

I think what people struggle more with is not that people are on these salaries, but that they are able to earn them while seeming to have a limited grasp on basic budgeting and access to financial advice.

They might not of ever needed to budget before, with high incomes they may of had a relaxed view on budgeting because they’ve always had plenty of money. Now they are getting tied into a mortgage they have to be able to know they have enough. If someone said I’ve only got £1500 a month how can I budget for a £900 mortgage, the responses would be totally different.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 14:48

We're not even married! I'm screwed!

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JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 14:42

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

I'm not talking to anyone specific. If someone had an issue finding a food bank should they not post because not everyone is in their situation? Ridiculous comment.

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JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 14:41

Ireallywantadoughnut36 · 28/05/2025 14:18

I don't know why people are so het up about this OP, I think it's fine to ask a question!
We earn a similar amount (I appreciate this makes us very privileged etc etc). Our mortgage is 1800 a month, and we have no nursery fees (although we have 2 kids both state school). We wouldn't cope with that level of mortgage, although we do also save 10% of our salaries for the kids, uni fees, maybe house deposit etc and save an additional amount to cover any holidays we want. So if we got rid of all that saving we'd be nearly there.
I think it depends on working through some things. I've always thought we'd state educate forever, our little boy in yr 2 was diagnosed with send, he won't cope mainstream secondary, he also won't get funding or a place at a special school, so we are now saving for private (appreciate we are privileged to be able to do this). This would be untenable with that mortgage.
We also save for unexpected housing issues - boiler cost us 3k, we've had the washing machine and fridge break this month, car trouble, unexpected bill etc.
A larger house will inevitably cost more to heat, light, furnish and more things can go wrong potentially (more bathrooms, more plumbing etc etc)
I suppose what I'm saying is - go through your outgoings, include amounts for unexpected spending/issues, even if you think now that this amazing home is all you need you will end up frustrated working that hard with no holidays, you should probably keep saving for rainy days, what if cost of living goes up, interest rates change etc.
I hate the idea of a house "ruling" life, and not being able to have some of the other things you might want just for the home of your dreams - but maybe you don't mind that.
I'd also suggest making sure state schools locally are good, because you won't have any funds left to supplement or change this if your child needs it.
I'd also suggest looking at uni loans these days, whilst it's a long way off - parents incomes are assessed and at your income your child will not be allowed to borrow enough to live on, so you'll be expected to pay - if you think this might apply later on in life you'll want to save for it too.
Also, whilst it's not ideal, do you have a safety net of any kind. I know I'm very very lucky that parents on both sides wouldn't see us lose our home, they've previously lent money to siblings after a redundancy and a divorce and if we lost our jobs they'd help us out. Obviously you wouldn't want to rely on this, but it's something to factor in.

Thank you for the lengthy reply. There are good state schools in the area and I intend on topping up his education at home as does his Dad. Definitely preparing for a rainy day is something we need to factor in.

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