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Is ‘shunter for British Rail’ a working class job?

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Correction · 28/05/2025 08:15

Been dating a man for 7 months. He was born 1970 just FYI. His parents were both born in 1927 just for context and both long gone from this world.

I know his mum worked in a care home - but I really don’t know her level of seniority- could’ve bern a manager - could’ve had a more routine job - I haven’t asked.

Anyway - I know he was close to his Dad and seemed to be a happy family but had no clue what his Dad did for a living so asked him over the weekend and he said

‘Shunter for British Rail.

AIBU to ask if you’d class it as a working class job?

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TY78910 · 29/05/2025 07:39

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:22

To be fair I was just stating the facts - I didn’t say I cared and I honestly don’t care !!

If you don’t care then why are you even thinking about this 🙄

There is a difference between being curious about what someone did for a living and what the job entails, and pigeon-holing them in to a class. You sound like perhaps you come from a higher ‘class’, whatever that means and you’re worried about some sort of external perception.

BeEagerTurtle · 29/05/2025 07:12

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:15

Been dating a man for 7 months. He was born 1970 just FYI. His parents were both born in 1927 just for context and both long gone from this world.

I know his mum worked in a care home - but I really don’t know her level of seniority- could’ve bern a manager - could’ve had a more routine job - I haven’t asked.

Anyway - I know he was close to his Dad and seemed to be a happy family but had no clue what his Dad did for a living so asked him over the weekend and he said

‘Shunter for British Rail.

AIBU to ask if you’d class it as a working class job?

Skilled manual worker

waxymoron · 29/05/2025 06:55

My dhs parents were a coach driver and a dinner lady. They were the kindest most amazing people who raised 4 incredible sons.
My mother came from a background of private school, intense snobbery and money and she was a very unpleasant, nothing was ever good enough, discontented narcissist.
I know where I wish I'd been brought up

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 29/05/2025 06:47

BuddhaGarden · 28/05/2025 21:48

I’d choose a plumber, joiner, shunter, electrician, kitchen fitter, or any other working-class job over freelance artist or freelance photographer any day.

Agree.

I work on what would probably be considered a "middle class" role. DH definitely in a "working class" profession (one of the ones you mentioned, although now in a more managerial role).

Firstly, he earns more than me. Secondly, I'd take him and most of his peers over the men I work with because they are generally very family orientated and just all round good blokes. The men I work with seem like hard work for the most part!

Notsosure1 · 29/05/2025 06:05

Everygrain · 28/05/2025 08:26

Are you wondering if he has an inheritance tucked away

Exactly what I was thinking

Letmeuseanywordiwant · 29/05/2025 05:19

I would really appreciate it, op, if you would explain why you started this thread and what are your thoughts about the fact that your bf’s parents are working class. This is an extremely frustrating thread to read as it stands

CurlewKate · 29/05/2025 05:16

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:25

Ok because shunter sounds like a working class job but I’ve looked online and it’s well paid

Some working class jobs are well paid. Can you clarify what you mean?

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 29/05/2025 04:55

User28473 · 29/05/2025 00:09

In the UK railway related jobs have a tradition of being heavily unionised, which is why they are well paid despite being working class trades. It is a credit to the power of unions, and more underpaid workers should follow their lead and unionise properly.

Id agree a credit to the unions, but about 60/70k a year to drive a glorified bus that doesn't need steering?? And the underground which they all complain about but there's a heck of a waiting list and virtually anyone who gets a job has been on a long list and/or waiting on an existing staff member and then work for 30yrs+ for un 'unwanted job' - its a racket - some underground drivers are on over £100k - again - for a job no-one wants lol - they are queuing for it. My neighbour (retired) is 74 and drove proper trains - East Grinstead to Victoria every day for 45years and never earned more than 45£ and he had 4 suicides on his time - he'd stop and BTP would ask where the body was, the answer was the head was under a wheel and the rest was splattered over a mile at 85mph. Harsh - but that's the humour they had to use - like any nurse/midwife/fireman etc. But he earned £45K and not £100+ on the underground and that is ridiculous - especially when the Liz line can be run without a driver at all.

Catsbreakfast · 29/05/2025 04:53

Correction · 28/05/2025 20:16

Why ? People are always saying 50s is ‘never too late’ in threads on here all the time

She’s not saying 50’s is too late to date, it’s too late to be so childish about your partners parents work.

Catsbreakfast · 29/05/2025 04:52

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:22

To be fair I was just stating the facts - I didn’t say I cared and I honestly don’t care !!

It’s really weird to be so invested in your partners parents jobs especially when they’re no longer around.

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 29/05/2025 04:34

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User28473 · 29/05/2025 00:09

In the UK railway related jobs have a tradition of being heavily unionised, which is why they are well paid despite being working class trades. It is a credit to the power of unions, and more underpaid workers should follow their lead and unionise properly.

SingleAHF · 28/05/2025 23:46

its reasonably well paid now, but not in the 1960s and 70s. Rank-wise it fell halfway between a porter and a guard.

margegunderson · 28/05/2025 23:40

When I was a kid there was a telly series called the Wheeltappers and Shunters Club - it was a kind of working man’s club with different acts on. Suggests they were important enough jobs that those in them might have their own social clubs.
As trains now come as four car units I don’t imagine there’s so much call for shunters.

BuddhaGarden · 28/05/2025 21:48

I’d choose a plumber, joiner, shunter, electrician, kitchen fitter, or any other working-class job over freelance artist or freelance photographer any day.

ThinWomansBrain · 28/05/2025 21:45

bizarre to be concerned about boyfriends parents jobs - even more so when both are dead, and would have retired in the 1980's that's 35+ years ago FFS.

Hope BF spots the red flags and escapes,

BuddhaGarden · 28/05/2025 21:41

Correction · 28/05/2025 20:16

Why ? People are always saying 50s is ‘never too late’ in threads on here all the time

It’s never too late. What do you want to do? It’s a long time to state pension age.

BuddhaGarden · 28/05/2025 21:40

Correction · 28/05/2025 08:44

Yeah I suppose

i had a shit upbringing and I’m desperate trying to overcome it and not be like my parents

Kindly, if you were born in 1972 you must be 52 or 53 - why are you so worried about class? I was born to working-class parents and am very well-educated with a professional job, but still think of myself as working-class.

Elbowpatch · 28/05/2025 21:07

Needspaceforlego · 28/05/2025 09:58

And how do you think they moved them?

With an engine. Driven by a qualified engine driver. Not by the shunter.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 28/05/2025 20:19

Correction · 28/05/2025 20:16

Why ? People are always saying 50s is ‘never too late’ in threads on here all the time

It's not. Follow passions whenever, as long as it's physically possible.

It is strange behaviour to suddenly decide in your 50s that your passion in life is a job you hadn't heard of prior to finding out your boyfriends dead dad used to do it and is incredibly physically demanding and a lot of work for not huge returns.

heavenisaplaceonearth · 28/05/2025 20:16

WheresMyPlanetGone · 28/05/2025 20:01

It was because you said ‘contrary to what posters have said I don’t think it was that common’. Posters have only given their own personal/family experiences, not said it was common.

I think the phrase was “not unusual” but I honestly can’t be bothered to read back. I personally think it’s extraordinary that a woman in the 18 hundreds had 5 children between 40 and 47. I think it’s fairly unusual for OP to have so many late pregnancies in her family. The chances to me seem slim. If you personally find it unremarkable then by all means don’t remark. The great thing about Mumsnet and life generally is you can absolutely draw your own conclusions and share or not share them at will.

Correction · 28/05/2025 20:16

Blackdow · 28/05/2025 19:59

@Correction
Are you going through a bit of a personal crisis or are you very easily influenced or is there something going on?

It’s very strange behaviour to here about your boyfriend’s late dad’s job, go look at how much it paid, start a thread asking if he is working class, and then claim you really want to apply for the job yourself… in your 50s. It’s a very strange reaction.

Why ? People are always saying 50s is ‘never too late’ in threads on here all the time

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WheresMyPlanetGone · 28/05/2025 20:01

heavenisaplaceonearth · 28/05/2025 20:00

No why would they be lying? The youngest of 7 is very different to 5 in your 40s. Not least because conceiving and carrying to term in mid to late 40s naturally IS rare.

It was because you said ‘contrary to what posters have said I don’t think it was that common’. Posters have only given their own personal/family experiences, not said it was common.

heavenisaplaceonearth · 28/05/2025 20:00

WheresMyPlanetGone · 28/05/2025 19:55

Do you think the posters who have posted about their personal experiences are lying? I have no idea how common (otherwise!) it was, but I do know that my father was born in 1957 to his 43 year old mother. Youngest of 7 children, she had her first when she was 19.

No why would they be lying? The youngest of 7 is very different to 5 in your 40s. Not least because conceiving and carrying to term in mid to late 40s naturally IS rare.

Blackdow · 28/05/2025 19:59

@Correction
Are you going through a bit of a personal crisis or are you very easily influenced or is there something going on?

It’s very strange behaviour to here about your boyfriend’s late dad’s job, go look at how much it paid, start a thread asking if he is working class, and then claim you really want to apply for the job yourself… in your 50s. It’s a very strange reaction.

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