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GingerPussInBoots · 27/05/2025 23:55

OK, OK its not all men

But this comment on another thread ade me laugh so much and I seriously related, anything else you'd like to add?

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SweetSound · 28/05/2025 09:40

ItsBouqeeeet · 28/05/2025 09:05

So it's okay to women to have a good bitch but not vice versa...

Show me where I said that. 🧐

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 09:38

GingerPussInBoots · 28/05/2025 09:33

I hate the fact I have to run on a treadmill in a gym indoors as if I run outside, there will be men that shout comments like milf etc from cars and van
i mean why on earth do they do that ? They can’t surely think you’ll end up getting with them
they must surely do it to intimidate

also hate the way if I was attacked
there would be questions
why did I have the audacity to be out in the evening alone etc
what was I wearing
did I drink alcohol

none does that to victims that have been robbed or burgled

also some men seem very keen to label some women as gold diggers

yet there’s not really a term to sum up men that exploit women for their youth beauty and fertility and labour

I get called a MILF and beeped at from vans while out WITH my baby?! I'm not adding that though, that's not men that's effing twats.

Burntt · 28/05/2025 09:38

Preformative parenting when there are witnesses and minimum when there isn’t.

weaponised incompetence

“I forgot”

hiw they always get sick when the kids are sick and need caring for but when you come down with it they don’t help

CandyCane457 · 28/05/2025 09:38

Men (and when I say men, I mean, my boyfriend 🤣) always being late, making me late for events as he’s so slow getting ready and has no sense of urgency, but then when I’m chivvying him along and getting flustered, frustrated etc that we’re late, he turns it on me and I’M the one nagging and causing a problem.

neverbeenskiing · 28/05/2025 09:37

I'm heartily sick of men in the workplace being promoted to roles that are over and above their level of competence and expertise because they're likeable and have the gift of the gab, then being completely reliant on their female colleagues to problem-solve, make decisions and manage difficult conversations.

Daffodilsarefading · 28/05/2025 09:37

Thinking that you remotely give one single fuck about them. Trust me, random man, I am not interested in engaging with you in any way shape or form.

JaneEyre40 · 28/05/2025 09:36

GingerPussInBoots · 27/05/2025 23:57

They way they think the world revolves around them, who they seriously over estimate their abilities, their entitlement to making judgements about women's bodies.
Man spreading yuk!

I'm actually jealous of their self esteem at times (obviously not all).

My gripe is the glancing...."seen my keys?" as he casts a quick eye over the room. "No, have you looked for them?", "no, that's why I'm asking you". 🙄

Notsandwiches · 28/05/2025 09:36

The way they fail to see women as people but see us for our utility. If you don't serve a purpose for them then you don't exist.

For them narcissism is the norm rather than the exception.

GingerPussInBoots · 28/05/2025 09:34

Bowup · 28/05/2025 09:31

After watching Adolescence I unfortunately looked up these online losers with podcasts whinging on about ‘Body counts’ wtf and bringing this that and the other to the table 🤢
The bizarreness of wanting women to have a zero ‘body count’ but at the same time wanting hordes of women to shag them 😵‍💫

Yeah what the heck is that all about?

can only assume it’s there own insecurity
?

OP posts:
GingerPussInBoots · 28/05/2025 09:33

I hate the fact I have to run on a treadmill in a gym indoors as if I run outside, there will be men that shout comments like milf etc from cars and van
i mean why on earth do they do that ? They can’t surely think you’ll end up getting with them
they must surely do it to intimidate

also hate the way if I was attacked
there would be questions
why did I have the audacity to be out in the evening alone etc
what was I wearing
did I drink alcohol

none does that to victims that have been robbed or burgled

also some men seem very keen to label some women as gold diggers

yet there’s not really a term to sum up men that exploit women for their youth beauty and fertility and labour

OP posts:
Bowup · 28/05/2025 09:31

After watching Adolescence I unfortunately looked up these online losers with podcasts whinging on about ‘Body counts’ wtf and bringing this that and the other to the table 🤢
The bizarreness of wanting women to have a zero ‘body count’ but at the same time wanting hordes of women to shag them 😵‍💫

StandFirm · 28/05/2025 09:21

and then of course you have the extremes of radical religions who treat women as chattel.
And the reference to Andrew Tate was because he actually said that. He has millions of young boys and men as followers.

StandFirm · 28/05/2025 09:20

ItsBouqeeeet · 28/05/2025 09:11

I've never once heard a man describe women as 'their property' and neither have friends.

There are many many men who think that way sadly. Maybe not in your circle, but they do exist and spread their poison through religion and/or online. This is a real problem and absolute poison for our society. I mean, wtf, Trump himself ranted over the weekend about 'trophy wives' - what is a 'trophy wife'? That whole notion says a lot about how the man sees us and he is the POTUS. In our faces every single fucking day.

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 28/05/2025 09:18

Everything tbh 🤣 I’m only in my 30’s and made the decision a long time ago never to even date again,I’m so over men and wish I hadn’t spent my early adult life being so obsessed with them 🤢

TheaBrandt1 · 28/05/2025 09:16

Yes women really are awful. That whole global industry of women exploiting young men for their own sexual pleasure and trafficking young men to pleasure numerous women. Oh hang on a minute 🙄

Surf2Live · 28/05/2025 09:12

They insist they're better leaders, and yet so many can't manage their share of a household / parenting.

They insist it's Not All Men and yet if a woman is harassed / attacked by a man it's her fault for not taking adequate precautions.

Too many of them view women as gold diggers, yet they'll happily settle down with a woman and share finances, reducing their financial load but won't contribute 50% of household labour.

If they invite a woman on a date and they pay for the date, they then expect her to put out for them sexually and if she refuses they'll call her a whore. Sir, it was you who treated her like a prostitute!

The hypocrisy is strong. They can't see it. The older I get, the more I must conclude, a great many of them are just dumb.

ItsBouqeeeet · 28/05/2025 09:11

StandFirm · 28/05/2025 09:08

We're not talking about restricting their bodily autonomy, are we? We don't talk about them being our 'property' like the Tates of this world, are we? We can bitch and say we just want to live our lives as adult human beings with full agency and autonomy without having to look after dead weights or lose out in our careers to morons who know how to play the old boys club.

I've never once heard a man describe women as 'their property' and neither have friends.

RabbitsRock · 28/05/2025 09:09

By “ manspreading”, I’m assuming pps are meaning when blokes sit with their legs as wide apart as possible? I can’t be doing with “mansplaining” - my DH is wonderful in many ways but can have a tendency to do this & I have to pull him up on it!

StandFirm · 28/05/2025 09:08

ItsBouqeeeet · 28/05/2025 09:05

So it's okay to women to have a good bitch but not vice versa...

We're not talking about restricting their bodily autonomy, are we? We don't talk about them being our 'property' like the Tates of this world, are we? We can bitch and say we just want to live our lives as adult human beings with full agency and autonomy without having to look after dead weights or lose out in our careers to morons who know how to play the old boys club.

merrymelody · 28/05/2025 09:08

I just wonder why there aren’t any men (that I’ve met) who are as kind and supportive and selfless as my grandad was.

ItsBouqeeeet · 28/05/2025 09:05

SweetSound · 28/05/2025 09:03

@ItsBouqeeeet Men moan about women all over the rest of the internet. They sometimes even do it on here, but obviously as mumsnet is mainly used by women, this is a place that women will talk. How dare we!

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So it's okay to women to have a good bitch but not vice versa...

StandFirm · 28/05/2025 09:04

GingerPussInBoots · 27/05/2025 23:55

OK, OK its not all men

But this comment on another thread ade me laugh so much and I seriously related, anything else you'd like to add?

The way simple demands for equality are interpreted as us oppressing them.
The whole 'men have lost their way, poor them' because we don't pander to them in the same way any more - and now it's supposed to mean rolling back 60+ years.
Manosphere losers are not men. They're scared little boys who don't understand the meaning of strength (moral and mental).

helpfulperson · 28/05/2025 09:04

XWKD · 28/05/2025 02:08

Apart from the manspreading, these could all describe women in SIL, MIL threads.

"My SIL used MY baby name!"
"My MIL says I'm fat!"
"My MIL talks down to me!"
"My SIL is jealous of DS!"

Yup. I think the general mumsnet vibe is I am perfect everyone else is a twat.

SweetSound · 28/05/2025 09:03

@ItsBouqeeeet Men moan about women all over the rest of the internet. They sometimes even do it on here, but obviously as mumsnet is mainly used by women, this is a place that women will talk. How dare we!

RabbitsRock · 28/05/2025 09:02

I work on a till & if I had £1 for every time I offer a bloke a carrier bag & he quips “ I brought one with me love”,indicating his wife/partner, I would be extremely rich! And they always say it as if it’s original & as if they’re hilariously funny. Twats!