To want to know what you're sick of about men !

I hate how the majority of them can't find the clit but can find the audacity.

You have a weird view of 'making moves' if it involves sexual harassment.

Sexual harassment involves unwanted sexual attention such as cat calling, touching and lewd comments.

You can talk to someone or ask them out without unwanted sexual behaviour.

I wouldn't say it's a minority either but in the dating market we have, men, for the most part, have to make all the moves. That's not excusing any inappropriate behaviour but men would be kissless virgins if they weren't making moves on women, chatting them up, asking them out, trying to kiss them and so on. Because that's the culture and what they have to do, many will be inappropriate with it.

Yeah, you either have manners or you don't. My family are well mannered people (male or female).

It depends how you're brought up in a lot of cases.

How do you know they wouldn't though? Someone's husband, Dad, Grandad, male friends etc are doing it, aren't they? I bet some of them even say "my husband, Dad, Grandad, male friends etc would never act like this".

It's not all men, but it is a sizeable majority. A study by the UN found 97% of UK women aged 18-24 reported being sexually harassed. Are we really supposed to believe that a minority of men are harassing almost all women? That's just not statistically feasible.

Then this isn't about them then is it? Like the OP and many others have pointed out, it's not ALL men, but it's MOSTLY men that are the issue.
If men were removed from the world, then the things we could do like go for a walk alone in the woods at night or go for a run along the street without being harassed or worse .

Perhaps it's the people you're hanging around with because my husband, Dad, Grandad, male friends etc would never act like this.

I dont think you know what they say or do when you aren't around. When men get together, even the " nice ones" and they have a few drinks or they lose a few quid and it's an entirely different story. I've had " nice" men turn into the foulest rudest misogynistic pricks because their caed declined or wasn't accepted. Because they were told to start behaving themselves, or told to calm down, take their cigarette or vape or drink outside. Individually maybe they are OK. Get a group and the whole safety in numbers thing going on and its an entirely different story.

Agree so ironic women are insultingly judged as driven by our hormones! Look in the mirror! Pathetic old men leering over our teenage daughters. And spot on about the porn use. Gross.

Yep. There absolutely is. And it's grim that some 'females' (just using the term 'women' would suffice btw) are feeding this. This wouldn't be an attractive (money making) option to these women if there wasn't the demand for it. From men.

Pornhub's own statistics show that the most popular search term has been "teen" for at least the past 10 years.

Is it women searching for images and videos of teen boys? No. It's men viewing videos of 'females' who either look, or are, underage.

It's utterly disgusting.

Urgh. Rape culture at its finest. And then he'll bleat on later how nice guys can't get a woman and wonder why he's a member of the male loneliness epidemic.

I was once on a date with a man in his mid-forties. We were walking down the street on a hot summer day behind two young girls who were no more than 15 years old and wearing shorts. He commented on how "lickable" their legs looked. Bleurgh!

Yes! Or adult/older men watching the arses of teenagers walking down the street. Underage girls too.

The constant staring at even the slightest hint of boob. It makes me really uncomfortable, to the point where I now very carefully consider what I am going to wear and often look over tops and dresses I like, if they show cleavage.

Don't feed the irrelevant.

If that's true, it's probably because 1) you married one of the good men (because there are some) and that 2) you're bringing your boys up to be the equal to women.

Sadly there is nothing we can do to change our daughters' opinions of men, as just living alongside men proves all the awful things described in this thread. Only men can make the change, and it suits them not to....

I think you're right in part. I do spend too much time on here. In my real life I know very few men who meet that description, or at least not overtly. Yet on MN it's impossible to have a conversation without finding them all over it.

can you mute people at all on Mumsnet? the amount of bollocks I'm having to scroll past to read actual relevant responses to the topic is a pain in the arse

I think you've been spending too much time on mumsnet reading nonsense threads like this

Nice to see a mature, positive comment on here.

Bloody hell reading this I can only assume mumsnet is full of single woman men haters I don't think my husband and sons are perfect by any manner of means. But they certainly aren't lazy leery bordering on sexual predators .

As perfectly illustrated by this thread - the cohort of unsuccessful, less respected, less powerful (socially, but often physically as well) men, who blame women for the fact that other men have better lives. With a staggering inability to see the wood for the trees, they blame us for their long work hours and poor rewards, for the fact they are overlooked and their bitterness makes them unattractive. They fawn around more powerful men, excusing those who use their power to harm others, excusing them their exploitation and assaults by making women the scapegoat. They spend all this time fighting the enemy they imagine they have, while the real threat that is other men continues without challenge.

Driving. 99.9% of all the aggressive moves, tailgating, cutting up, no signalling etc are men.

Men should be kept off the road until they can sort themselves out.

(Edited because I can't spell 'off')