To report dishonestly claiming PIP benefit

Not necessarily. Plus people exaggerate symptoms to medical professionals, too.

Who is it to you?

Because you'd do yourself a favour by stepping away from her, and focusing on your own life.

Report her by all means but focus on your own life not others

PIP a is not given for the condition , it’s given for having evidence of how that condition affects you on a daily basis ie need someone to help wash / cook etc . What is wrong with you is immaterial . I’ve got multiple chronic diseases , I wouldn’t claim anything because most days I’m perfectly capable of managing everything . In your case and if your condition stops you caring for yourself you need to get evidence of that and get someone who is an expert in filling out the forms to help you gather what evidence you need . I’m in no way anti PIP i would just like it to go to the correct people .

I get PIP. My medical evidence was 3 A4 length documents.

1.Medical statement print out from my GP (includes my diagnosis etc) . It was one A4 page, and didn't include anything about how my conditions effect me.

1. Letter to show I had been referred to CMHS and accepted into their care, which included why I was not being prescribed medication despite usually they would.

1. Letter to show I had to attend eating disorder treatment.

And that was it for evidence from medical professionals. They will get more evidence upon review though, if they want it. I have gotten more since, I coding an autism diagnosis.

All other evidence provided was statements from carers, people around me, and work documents showing the reasonable adjustments that had to be put into place for me.

As far as I know, they didn't speak to my doctors either. I don't know anything else, as I did not do my PIP form (my partner did it, I didn't have it in me to go through claims process so he did the bulk of it for me).

Looking at the points I scored, they accurately reflect my actual life and what I struggle with, need care and help for the majority of the time. So it worked.

I know PIP can be difficult to get, but I don't think it's lack of medical evidence - as I said, I got it with just 3 documents that basically confirmed I wasn't lying about my conditions. I think it being hard to get is probably people either understating their experience on the form, or overexaggerating to the point it ends up sounding inconsistent. And mostly, not having people to help them see the process through. I'd have given up before I had barely started if left to do it alone, can't be dealing with that long form when I'm already managing health conditions.

People who say it’s so hard to get pip and they can’t be lying - they obviously have never met someone who openly admits that they frauded the system. My exes mum claims she has such severe mental health issues and anxiety that she hasn’t left her house in years. That she is so mentally unwell that she can’t leave her home to get milk when she runs out. She laughs and says that was the lie she told them and she gets max for both as well as the element on universal credit to enable her not to work. She also has a disabled badge for this ‘mental health’. This woman who had never left her house in years, goes partying and to raves every single weekend. She sits in the pub from day till night.

yet my poor mum has had her thyroid removed, hip replaced, severe arthritis, spine problems, endo, crps, diabetes, asthma, lung issues, heart issues (the list goes on) and she had to fight for her pip and even then she doesn’t get high of both. She get it for like 5 years a time and every time it’s up she has to go to tribunal and fight to get it.

in my experience it seems to be the people who lie who gets it yet the people who are genuine have to fight like hell.

Err, because we - the tax paying public - are paying for this fraud. If you personally had to pay her the money from your wage packet every month would you be happy? Because that’s what we - the tax paying public - are doing. Report away OP. It’s not as if she’ll be immediately stripped of it without good evidence, it will simply be reassessed which is fine.

I’m not reporting them , I’m saying that the OP should film this woman doing all these things if she intends to report .

I'm intrigued to know what you can claim PIP for with little evidence?

Report her if you feel that strongly about it, so the relevant authority can investigate.

Can I ask if you know what the conditions are that you are reporting on?

You do need evidence. I have a very serious condition but because I don't need to see the consultants etc for it (what are they supposed to do there's no cure and they can't help, I just have check ups of my heart and lungs) I didn't have enough evidence to claim it.

Agree , I know at least 2 people who are playing the system . Film her , get the evidence and then report .

This. They usually require hard medical evidence and even then, sometimes it isn't enough to claim PIP.

OP.... if this person has managed to "fool" all these medical proffesionals and pass the assessment ( where they try to trip you up ) then I don't think you reporting is going to do anything.

I suspect they look at people's medical records before they start investigating

I get PIP but it wouldn’t be obvious why from looking at me. I feel like a fraud but I was honest in my application so I think I must be entitled to it. Threads like this don’t help.

You'd have to show evidence of her doing the things she says she cannot. I.e videos, pictures etc.

You don't need all that much medical evidence to get PIP, I have no idea why people keep saying that on mumsnet.

So what. It's about what you can't do on your worst days. I have a muscle wasting disease. Some days I can walk up a hill albeit looking a bit weird but certainly you would not know that day what was wrong with me from looking. Other days I have to crawl up the stairs on all fours, am too tired to make lunch or dinner. No-one sees that as I am at home those days.

What is it to you? Do you think it’s a desirable life to lead? Working is a privilege denied to many. Do you want to claim PIP? Unfortunately there will always be people who ruin things for genuine cases

I don’t understand the desire these days to catch people out - especially people like friends and family who are meant to care about the person.

You aren’t her friend, so the first thing I would do if I were you is drop that label. You are just jealous of the fact she receives a measly amount from the government for an illness she is unfortunate enough to have. They won’t have given it to her because she has invented an illness, it doesn’t work like that.

They take it seriously if they investigate reports. You’re saying she ‘lies her way out of it’. Be careful it’s not you that ends up in trouble for false reporting.

Came to say similar

I understand but not all illnesses or disabilities work like that. I have a friend who has a serious health condition, she can be fine for a long time but then end up out of work and in intense pain etc for months at a time. It's seriously impacted her career and her future planning, may not be able to have kids etc. Her day to day is about pacing herself to try and avoid flare ups even though in theory she can do more. I think it's really important that genuine people in those grey area situations aren't refused additional support because they don't fit nicely in a box. I think many mental health conditions are also a good example of that, the application process for pip is lengthy and invasive and quite frankly sometimes unmanageable for people at their most vulnerable if they don't have much support so you can't expect people to use it like a sign on and off benefit. Such as UC depending on hours worked.

Walks the dogs once a week? Thought it was supposed to be daily, I mean I don't know about anyone else but getting that small detail right would have made this OP really convincing..........

Report her if you think she is lying, then the PIp assessor will just look at all the supporting medical evidence and make a decision on that.

Yes you do which is why these threads are mostly bullshit