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AIBU to have cancelled DD having friends over?

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BlackBean2023 · 27/05/2025 18:11

DD has just turned 17 and after 4 years of being a lovely teen the last few months I’ve had all the teenage years at once - she’s been downright rude to me (only me, she’s lovely to DH) - talks to me like I’m a piece of dirt, is dismissive and nasty to her little sister (9) and hasn’t been pleasant to be around lately. She’s got lazy around the house and spends most of the day applying and reapplying make up - but doesn’t actually go out much. She works and gets paid about £80 a week but we pay everything - driving lessons, phone, food so it’s her money for going out/clothes. We don’t charge any housekeeping.

I’ve put it down to exam stress, hormones, any other excuse but the last week there’s been no excuse. Today shes supposed to have a group of friends staying over (I’m expected to cater or at least pay for it!) but she’s been particularly rude to me so I’ve told her to cancel it - it’s my house and I’m not prepared to be treated like shit all day when she wants actually something! We’ve now had tears and profuse apologies (plus her coming up with shit excuses for her rudeness..)

DH thinks I’m being unreasonable to the other kids who have made plans. AIBU to not care and put my foot down!?

(pops on tin hat just in case)

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shelle07 · 31/05/2025 23:26

I have a 17 year old DS and have similar challenges to yourself. My mantra to my son is treat people how you want to be treated. I’m hoping one day it will eventually sink in.

BlackBean2023 · 30/05/2025 23:49

Agix · 30/05/2025 16:29

I'm just wondering why your daughter is like this to you. Everyone says "that's just how teens are" but it isn't. People just say that as excuse, when really their teens treat them like shit because they treat their teens like shit first.

I mean, I’d like to say it’s because she knows I love her unconditionally and she doesn’t need to mask whatever frustration is in her head but OK…

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Agix · 30/05/2025 16:29

I'm just wondering why your daughter is like this to you. Everyone says "that's just how teens are" but it isn't. People just say that as excuse, when really their teens treat them like shit because they treat their teens like shit first.

ZenNudist · 30/05/2025 16:23

Don't back down and don't let DH host. Otherwise you are teaching her there are no consequences for shitty behaviour. A line has to be drawn.

AmIEnough · 30/05/2025 08:13

Stand your ground. It might deter her from being so rude to you next time. Good luck.

Arran2024 · 29/05/2025 20:53

FlyMeSomewhere · 29/05/2025 19:49

The trouble with this thread is that you can see the issue we have today, the OP is doing the right thing by insisting that her near adult should treat other adults with respect and giving her consequences to her actions and those condeming her because they believe kids should never be made to feel upset and thus never feel any deterrent to behaving as badly as they like!
It's the summer holidays soon and no doubt once they are here, the community pages in my area will be full of people begging parents to control their kids vandalism and trespass! We've got to that because people are afraid to upset their own kids!

I think people are saying the consequence should not be binning the friends meet up but something else instead.

FlyMeSomewhere · 29/05/2025 19:49

The trouble with this thread is that you can see the issue we have today, the OP is doing the right thing by insisting that her near adult should treat other adults with respect and giving her consequences to her actions and those condeming her because they believe kids should never be made to feel upset and thus never feel any deterrent to behaving as badly as they like!
It's the summer holidays soon and no doubt once they are here, the community pages in my area will be full of people begging parents to control their kids vandalism and trespass! We've got to that because people are afraid to upset their own kids!

FlyMeSomewhere · 29/05/2025 19:39

Sandy792 · 27/05/2025 19:30

I think this was a bad idea, if you're trying to encourage good, kind behaviour this is going to do the exact opposite. Bitterness and resentment is all that will come from this.

Have you wondered why she's suddenly obsessed with her looks and make up? What's happened there? Why she's hardly going out? If she's struggling with friendships then you've really put the nail in her coffin.

Poor kids she's obviously really unhappy and struggling and you think the answer is this.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences - doing her own washing or things that will make her more independent. No making her hugely unpopular with her friends because they've all been binned off.

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Teenagers are obsessed with how they look, they are moody and maybe not that self confident but you can't accept bad behaviour because you want them to feel happy at all times! She's nearly an adult and I had a mortgage at 18, she needs to learn how she can and can't talk to people!

ThatsCute · 29/05/2025 11:01

Kelly1969 · 29/05/2025 10:44

Maybe not housekeeping but she could pay for her own phone

Agreed. My DC are learning to budget and handle money by paying a monthly phone bill and being responsible for any extras, like fast food with friends, etc. I also run a monthly clothing budget, which means they have to prioritise what they’ll need, and whether those expensive trainers are worth saving up for. Plenty of ways to teach school-age DC to budget without charging them rent. I don’t have any friends who charge rent to minors.

Kelly1969 · 29/05/2025 10:44

cinnamongirl123 · 29/05/2025 10:35

I empathise as my teen DD is awful to us.
I think in that scenario, as your DD has apologised profusely, I would let the sleepover happen, ON THE UNDERSTANDING that this is a last-chance thing, if it were to happen again the consequences would ensue. But I’m a shit parent so I’m probably wrong!

But also - housekeeping charges for a 17yo, I’ve never heard of such a thing!

Maybe not housekeeping but she could pay for her own phone

cinnamongirl123 · 29/05/2025 10:35

I empathise as my teen DD is awful to us.
I think in that scenario, as your DD has apologised profusely, I would let the sleepover happen, ON THE UNDERSTANDING that this is a last-chance thing, if it were to happen again the consequences would ensue. But I’m a shit parent so I’m probably wrong!

But also - housekeeping charges for a 17yo, I’ve never heard of such a thing!

Snakebite61 · 29/05/2025 09:42

BlackBean2023 · 27/05/2025 18:11

DD has just turned 17 and after 4 years of being a lovely teen the last few months I’ve had all the teenage years at once - she’s been downright rude to me (only me, she’s lovely to DH) - talks to me like I’m a piece of dirt, is dismissive and nasty to her little sister (9) and hasn’t been pleasant to be around lately. She’s got lazy around the house and spends most of the day applying and reapplying make up - but doesn’t actually go out much. She works and gets paid about £80 a week but we pay everything - driving lessons, phone, food so it’s her money for going out/clothes. We don’t charge any housekeeping.

I’ve put it down to exam stress, hormones, any other excuse but the last week there’s been no excuse. Today shes supposed to have a group of friends staying over (I’m expected to cater or at least pay for it!) but she’s been particularly rude to me so I’ve told her to cancel it - it’s my house and I’m not prepared to be treated like shit all day when she wants actually something! We’ve now had tears and profuse apologies (plus her coming up with shit excuses for her rudeness..)

DH thinks I’m being unreasonable to the other kids who have made plans. AIBU to not care and put my foot down!?

(pops on tin hat just in case)

She'd belittle you in front of her friends.
I think she would see it as a golden opportunity to do so. She sounds very spoilt by what you have given her.

Firefly1987 · 28/05/2025 22:46

Horses7 · 28/05/2025 22:18

Good for you - now every time she’s rude etc withdraw a privilege eg driving lessons, friends over etc etc. Don’t put up with it!

Driving lessons are not always a privilege. I hated mine and never wanted to learn to drive, if my parents had withdrawn them I'd have been delighted.

Kelly1969 · 28/05/2025 22:19

Tricky one-first thought is that yes absolutely cancel.
second thought is for DH to sort out the food (and any mess) with DD
third thought is DD pays for food out of her money and sorts her own mess out.
if you choose 2 or 3, either way you’re not sorting food and mess!
Going forward she can pay a small amount for housekeeping or at least pay for her own phone.

Horses7 · 28/05/2025 22:18

Good for you - now every time she’s rude etc withdraw a privilege eg driving lessons, friends over etc etc. Don’t put up with it!

Arran2024 · 28/05/2025 22:13

It sounds like there are other sanctions you could have made - like stopping her driving lessons. I would have do that, not cancelled the friends. It affects other people and the chances are she and her friends will meet up somewhere else, maybe they will never come to yours as they think you are mean. And there is a lot to be said for hosting so you can meet the friends, see the dynamics, keep an eye on how your daughter behaves in the group. See any vulnerabilities, spot dodgy characters etc. She still needs to be parented and supported at 17. It's often hard work with teenagers but my advice is to always prioritise your relationship with her, accept that you can't always get what you want or deserve, and don't lock horns.

Mum2jenny · 28/05/2025 22:01

If a child is earning, they should contribute to the household pot. It can be only a minimal contribution but it can be a valuable lesson on growing up and budgeting.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 28/05/2025 21:37

Kids paying rent is teaching a valuable life lesson, imo.
OP was right to cancel the party. It wasn't a special birthday party, so I don't think OP was excessive.
A 17 year old definitely knows manners.

ThatsCute · 28/05/2025 21:32

Bananafofana · 27/05/2025 18:18

I’m on the fence - did she get a warning? That’s a very harsh punishment. Is there any alternative, but still serious, punishment that doesn’t let down other people ? I’m just mindful of the other friends.

(not the point - but would people ever seriously consider charging a 17 yo housekeeping??!! My grandmother had to hand over some of her wages at that age to her parents, but WW2 was raging)

This. I’m not sure that bragging that you don’t charge your underage child rent is a flex on your generosity. Charging rent to children in compulsory school is not acceptable in 2025 IMO.

Firefly1987 · 28/05/2025 21:08

This is MN so they'll tell you to kick her out of the house minimum, whilst saying they're children with their brains still developing until they're 25 in any other situation 🙄

TiredAH · 28/05/2025 20:57

Yanbu. Shes almost an adult.
Her behaviour will impact your youngest and your relationship if you don’t stop her.
She sounds like a nightmare to be honest

ThisLoftyPeachCat · 28/05/2025 19:47

I'd have let her have her friends over. You say she doesn't go out much and after always being a lovely teen has suddenly turned rude ? 17 is a bit late for it to be hormones, which says to me she is struggling for another reason. I'd be happy she was doing something with friends, that may well sort the emotional crap out

WitcheryDivine · 28/05/2025 19:36

I wonder what happened a few months ago? IMO it’s very unusual for girls of that age to suddenly “teenage” so I would suspect something difficult has happened to her, or she has become anxious/depressed about something.

Also have you changed at all? My mum definitely blamed some of her menopause rages on my behaviour which was extremely mild.

UsernameMcUsername · 28/05/2025 19:28

YANBU. You shouldn't be treated like a doormat in your own home.

MustWeDoThis · 28/05/2025 19:12

BlackBean2023 · 27/05/2025 18:11

DD has just turned 17 and after 4 years of being a lovely teen the last few months I’ve had all the teenage years at once - she’s been downright rude to me (only me, she’s lovely to DH) - talks to me like I’m a piece of dirt, is dismissive and nasty to her little sister (9) and hasn’t been pleasant to be around lately. She’s got lazy around the house and spends most of the day applying and reapplying make up - but doesn’t actually go out much. She works and gets paid about £80 a week but we pay everything - driving lessons, phone, food so it’s her money for going out/clothes. We don’t charge any housekeeping.

I’ve put it down to exam stress, hormones, any other excuse but the last week there’s been no excuse. Today shes supposed to have a group of friends staying over (I’m expected to cater or at least pay for it!) but she’s been particularly rude to me so I’ve told her to cancel it - it’s my house and I’m not prepared to be treated like shit all day when she wants actually something! We’ve now had tears and profuse apologies (plus her coming up with shit excuses for her rudeness..)

DH thinks I’m being unreasonable to the other kids who have made plans. AIBU to not care and put my foot down!?

(pops on tin hat just in case)

Same problem with my own 17yr old daughter. You've done the right thing because I've also done the same to mine. She soon learned.