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B&Q think ‘girls’ cant do stuff

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Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 11:29

B&Q have listed a flatpack cabinet with the description ‘easy to assemble, even for a girl’

At the same time they’re running a big ‘purpose’ advertising campaign around encouraging female tradespeople.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14752363/amp/B-Q-apologises-bathroom-cabinet-easy-girl.html

Apologies for the DM link - I couldn’t see a better one (The Sun?!)

Apology after B&Q says cabinet can be built 'even if you are a girl'

The 140cm x 33cm flatback bamboo unit appeared on the company website decorated with toiletries and attractive-looking plants.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14752363/amp/B-Q-apologises-bathroom-cabinet-easy-girl.html

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notacooldad · 27/05/2025 12:38

@Coralleadery
You know an awful lots of specifics around what they have in their stores for women, ‘a large range of women’s gear in sizes 8-20’ eh?
Indeed I do. I walked past them on Thursday and Friday when I went into pick up wallpaper and again on Sunday. We are doing a lot to the house a d I'm doing more trips to B&Q and the tip than anywhere else this month!

Stickortwigs · 27/05/2025 12:36

I actually feel pretty sorry for them. They’re trying to do more to promote women being involved in trades and someone else’s bad joke and a poor admin process has caused this level of outrage.

Sickoffamilydrama · 27/05/2025 12:33

Hwi · 27/05/2025 12:17

What is your point? There are male thing and female things - or are we all to join 'Just stop biology' movement? If female and males were the same aptitude and application-wise, then women would not have been severely underrepresented in electric pylon and oil rigs maintenance.

It's way more complicated than biology why women are under represented in jobs and while nature obviously affects things like grip strength, nurture has a huge affect.

Boys are bought therefore play with more engineering / construction type toys. Girls are encouraged towards the nurturing toys.

Once girls get to teens they drop out of stem subjects if in mixed sex schools, due to social pressures.

The trades have a lack of women so girls don't see them doing the jobs, so they don't think they are for them.

If a women does get a job in a male dominated industry there's still an undercurrent of sexism making it harder to stick at.

Then because there's not many women there's a lack of flexibility for parents, oil rigs is an obvious one most women don't want to leave their children for weeks or months.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 27/05/2025 12:28

@Coralleadery that is bloody awful!! i can do almost everything! paint paper (the proper way) not the wrong way which they all do nowadays!! tile floors and walls better than many pros! (that came from a plumber who used a pro for his bathroom!) laminate, washing machine door seal replacement, washing machine brushes replacement! fuses plugs etc. do not touch water or gas but all the main diy I have done in our homes over the past 40 odd years. dh is useless!! I have 2 ikea flat pack chests of drawers which are nearly 30 years old and have been moved multiple times for painting. still not loose! I have even put underfloor heating in a bathroom!!

BallerinaRadio · 27/05/2025 12:28

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:27

This thread is a weird mix of

’you’re over-reacting you loon, no-one thinks it means women can’t do DIY’

and

‘well women can’t do diy, what’s your point’

And a super rude and aggressive OP

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:27

This thread is a weird mix of

’you’re over-reacting you loon, no-one thinks it means women can’t do DIY’

and

‘well women can’t do diy, what’s your point’

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Sherararara · 27/05/2025 12:26

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:14

So, it’s ‘nothing to do’ with companies what they have on their site? I seem to remember people being fairly pissed off with MN when child abuse images were posted. By your reasoning it’s totally fine as long as they’re removed when pointed out

Jesus calm down.

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:25

Sherararara · 27/05/2025 12:24

Tbf, there are quite regular posts on my local fb groups from women asking for help assembling furniture as they don’t feel competent to do it properly & safely.

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

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Sherararara · 27/05/2025 12:24

Tbf, there are quite regular posts on my local fb groups from women asking for help assembling furniture as they don’t feel competent to do it properly & safely.

BallerinaRadio · 27/05/2025 12:23

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:20

I don’t want to boycott B&Q till they go out of business and haven’t suggested that.

I want to raise awareness, on a predominantly female site, that they’re allowing this to happen, so there’s pressure on them to find a practical solution to ensure that it doesn’t happen again. Outcome being so young women don’t see such harmful statements in future

Edited

But you've mentioned how they're running a campaign to get more women into trades. So to say they 'don't think girls can do stuff' is just ridiculous. You've picked up on a small mistake they've made, literally just not noticing something someone else is selling on their platform, and are being so over dramatic about it your point is just lost.

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:22

Some of the sexist posts above prove why we should be raising our voices so they - and other companies - don’t let this happen again.

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Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:20

BallerinaRadio · 27/05/2025 12:16

Fuck me that's quite the leap.

OK fine we'll all boycott B&Q, all go elsewhere and hopefully they'll go out of business and all those jobs will be lost. And their campaign to get more women into trades gone too.

What do you want to happen here? They've apologised for the mistake and fixed it. You are blowing this waaaaay out of proportion

I don’t want to boycott B&Q till they go out of business and haven’t suggested that.

I want to raise awareness, on a predominantly female site, that they’re allowing this to happen, so there’s pressure on them to find a practical solution to ensure that it doesn’t happen again. Outcome being so young women don’t see such harmful statements in future

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Multiplegum · 27/05/2025 12:19

We can lie all we like
but many many more men prefer and do the DIY then women

fact

you may not like that reality op, but that’s the reality and one I am very comfortable with as someone who despises diy

Multiplegum · 27/05/2025 12:18

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:17

What’s that got to do with anything? You know marketing don’t manage their site listings?

So what role does
and I’ll find out the sex

Hwi · 27/05/2025 12:17

What is your point? There are male thing and female things - or are we all to join 'Just stop biology' movement? If female and males were the same aptitude and application-wise, then women would not have been severely underrepresented in electric pylon and oil rigs maintenance.

Olog · 27/05/2025 12:17

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:10

So it’s totally fine for B&Q to have offensive listings up as ‘it’s not practical’ for them to have checks in place? Do you work for them?

What else do you think it would be ok to have written on their site until someone points it out to them?

No I don’t work for them, but I know the practicalities of dealing with marketplaces this big and that it is impossible to check every item before hand manually.

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:17

Multiplegum · 27/05/2025 12:15

A woman is currently marketing director for B&Q
Katherine Pearson

I like that cabinet and I plan to buy and the fact that seems very easy to assemble, as a single parent - I’m sold!

What’s that got to do with anything? You know marketing don’t manage their site listings?

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BallerinaRadio · 27/05/2025 12:16

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:14

So, it’s ‘nothing to do’ with companies what they have on their site? I seem to remember people being fairly pissed off with MN when child abuse images were posted. By your reasoning it’s totally fine as long as they’re removed when pointed out

Fuck me that's quite the leap.

OK fine we'll all boycott B&Q, all go elsewhere and hopefully they'll go out of business and all those jobs will be lost. And their campaign to get more women into trades gone too.

What do you want to happen here? They've apologised for the mistake and fixed it. You are blowing this waaaaay out of proportion

Multiplegum · 27/05/2025 12:15

A woman is currently marketing director for B&Q
Katherine Pearson

I like that cabinet and I plan to buy and the fact that seems very easy to assemble, as a single parent - I’m sold!

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:15

notacooldad · 27/05/2025 12:12

Well as others said it appears to have been a misjudged oversight with a 3rd party that did the marketing. To be fair I probably would have bought it if I needed it and not be put off by the tag line. I am terrible at DIY so it would have encouraged me!
Our B&Q see.s very female friendly. They have a large range get of wo.ens work gear in sizes 8 to 20. Lots of female staff with good technical knowledge in the trade area.
Re yorkie bar, I always thought it was a misjudged marketing campaign with the aim of ' girls' saying ' not for me? Just watch!!!!' and Increasing the female market.

You know an awful lots of specifics around what they have in their stores for women, ‘a large range of women’s gear in sizes 8-20’ eh?🤔

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Sickoffamilydrama · 27/05/2025 12:14

It will be a lost in translation type thing that you see all the time with imported products.

On a side note they've clearly not met our daughter she helped me put her brother's cot together at 8 years old, in fairness we renovated our whole house including putting in a flat pack kitchen in so she's handy with a flat pack.

In fact she's better than DH who always gets something back to front.

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:14

BallerinaRadio · 27/05/2025 12:11

You're massively over thinking this. It wasn't a micro aggression, it was nothing to do with B&Q and nothing to do with their campaign.

You could have posted to champion their campaign, but instead of you're talking about a small mistake they made and have quickly corrected

So, it’s ‘nothing to do’ with companies what they have on their site? I seem to remember people being fairly pissed off with MN when child abuse images were posted. By your reasoning it’s totally fine as long as they’re removed when pointed out

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notacooldad · 27/05/2025 12:12

Well as others said it appears to have been a misjudged oversight with a 3rd party that did the marketing. To be fair I probably would have bought it if I needed it and not be put off by the tag line. I am terrible at DIY so it would have encouraged me!
Our B&Q see.s very female friendly. They have a large range get of wo.ens work gear in sizes 8 to 20. Lots of female staff with good technical knowledge in the trade area.
Re yorkie bar, I always thought it was a misjudged marketing campaign with the aim of ' girls' saying ' not for me? Just watch!!!!' and Increasing the female market.

BallerinaRadio · 27/05/2025 12:11

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 11:58

It doesn’t matter if it was a third party seller. What a cheek to run a big ad campaign around championing female tradespeople when they’re not even bothering to check who they’re doing business with. It’s every little micro-aggression like this that puts women and girls off of doing ‘male’ things.

They’d have a lot more effect on increasing female tradespeople if they worked on educating businesses who they’re working with and making sure stuff like this doesn’t happen. But I guess that would involve real change that can’t be shouted about in a TV ad eh.

Yorkie - YES- I used to love the Yorkie truck Easter egg and still remember my confusion when they suddenly announced it ‘wasn’t for girls.’ It’s a really vivid memory for me. I hadn’t realised before that there were boy and girl things.

You're massively over thinking this. It wasn't a micro aggression, it was nothing to do with B&Q and nothing to do with their campaign.

You could have posted to champion their campaign, but instead of you're talking about a small mistake they made and have quickly corrected

Coralleadery · 27/05/2025 12:10

Olog · 27/05/2025 12:03

🤷‍♀️ there’s over a million products third party and it in itself the marketplace is run by a third party. They took it down as soon as they were informed, it’s just a nothing situation. Not practical to check every listing before hand.

So it’s totally fine for B&Q to have offensive listings up as ‘it’s not practical’ for them to have checks in place? Do you work for them?

What else do you think it would be ok to have written on their site until someone points it out to them?

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