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Mums new partner…red flags or is it me?

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AurumVox · 25/05/2025 23:12

Hi…I really need some advice if possible as I can’t tell if it’s me having an issue with my mums new partner because it’s new or whether I should be genuinely worried.

To give some context, I’m 41/F, my mum is 68. We lost our dad (step father who raised us) 3 years ago and my mum has started dating a guy (73) over the last 6 months. I met him this week as I live about 200 miles away so I’m visiting currently.

I want to start off by saying the huge amount of relief I felt when I found out that mum had met somebody, although it was hard and different I actively encouraged it as I knew how much mum was missing my stepdad who she was with for 31 years, I also worry a lot being so far away so to know that she’s been so happy and that she’s spending time enjoying her self has been the biggest relief.

In the first few months of them dating mum was really quite overwhelmed as she’s very independent, has a great network of friends and stays very busy. The guy she’s started dating is very intense and was wanting to spend all of his time with her so she was finding it hard to balance all the other commitments. I talked a lot to her about seeing it from his perspective as he has also lost his wife around 18 months ago. So I put a lot into talking things through with mum and encouraging her to communicate with him about how she was feeling etc.

About 3 weeks ago mum travelled up to stay with me and I looked after her dog while she went to her place in Crete, while she was staying he was calling her 4 x a day which I thought was a lot! Didn’t say anything though. She said this was normal for him. That he wanted to spend all of his time with her which she didn’t want. She had also said previously that lots of people disliked him because he often says the wrong thing and could be taken as rude / abrupt etc, that perhaps he was slightly lacked social skills. I again said well you know him in a different way so go with the your gut. They met through a solo group of which some of the members have apparently warned mum off him.
They get on great, and she’s said recently she’s totally fallen for him. My mum I would say is a very independent, intelligent, wise lady…so I would never have questioned her choice.

I met him this week, a couple of times now and he has been so rude to me that it was uncomfortable, for myself and for mum. The first time I let it go thinking maybe he’s nervous etc. but the 2nd time was pretty awful. I didn’t want to make a big deal and thought I’d wait for mum to bring it up which she did after he’d gone, saying she’d never seen him behave that rudely towards anybody before. I was surprised I managed not to react but instead I think I just froze and didn’t know what to do.

I also noticed he corrects her all the time and they have this constant ‘banter’ as mum calls it, where they almost argue who is right. To the onlooker it comes across as him telling her she’s wrong about everything. He also has the code to her key safe on the house. When we arrived back from mum staying with me he had let himself in and left her flowers and cooked a meal for us which was left in the fridge - which was a lovely gesture it just felt strange, like he’s totally love bombing her.

I’ve seriously wracked my brain over whether my issue is one of my own - am I still grieving, am I feeling possessive, I’ve gone over and over the mum deserves to be happy and so on. But my gut just can’t get past the way he spoke to me and how he is with her. I actually feel like a petulant child about it (which I hate!)…am I reading too much into it? Am I subconsciously trying to sabotage?! I simply don’t like him and I feel like I’m really trying to.

It’s hard because I obviously miss my stepdad terribly and its weird somebody else being here but I’m highly aware it’s her house, her life, she needs and deserves to be happy (which I want for her more than anything else) and at the end of the day my opinion doesn’t and shouldn’t matter (much).
It’s been strange because I’ve barely seen her and since I’ve been back she’s been over at his or stayed over there and when she’s been here she’s exhausted so our time has been limited. I’ve taken time off from work to come down and spend time with her and I’m pretty much just here doing very little.

I really don’t know what to do. Should I put my feelings aside despite what I feel are red flags? Or should I keep sharing my concerns which is making it really difficult?

Any advice or opinions would be welcomed - I’m realistic and if I’m coming across as bratty then I’m open to that too! I just want an outside non emotional perspective I guess?

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Knackeredparquet · 26/05/2025 10:49

LillyPJ · 26/05/2025 09:11

I think if my DCs told me they'd shared concerns about me on social media and sat me down to read them, I'd be furious! I've lived through far more than they have and don't want to hear the opinions of a load of strangers who've only heard one side of the story. Sorry, but this wouldn't work for me at all.

That’s completely fair enough and a good point. We all react differently.

But his behaviour is so extreme that it feels like OP’s mum needs a real reality check.

she has only known this man 6 months, yet she is bending her whole life out of shape for his needs. It is very worrying behaviour.

diddl · 26/05/2025 10:48

SapporoBaby · 26/05/2025 10:01

But I do think it’s really weird that he’s hogging her while you’re visiting

Indeed.

Which of course he can only do because Op's mum is letting him.

Why would that be?

S0j0urn4r · 26/05/2025 10:45

Whether he's on the spectrum or not doesn't matter. What matters is how he's treating your mum.

BrokenWingsCantFly · 26/05/2025 10:38

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echt · 26/05/2025 10:29

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While I think he's an utter cunt I resent your ageist relegating of this to senile. All the evidence indicates he's on his toes.

The man is not polite and direct.

endofthelinefinally · 26/05/2025 10:27

Wow. Your OP is full of red flags. I hope you manage to support your mum in getting out of this relationship.

diddl · 26/05/2025 10:25

Sorry but I’d actually say he’s right here. He says something and you shut him down as though he can’t possibly have an opinion. I wouldn’t say either of these was rude of him.

I half thought that about the walk he mentioned.

But he just needed to say "ah yes, of course, you grew up here".

“There really isn’t anything I can tell you or your mother that you don’t already know is there?”.

Well if he thinks Op & her mum are a pair of know it alls he could just piss off couldn't he?

Springtimehere · 26/05/2025 10:22

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11thofNever · 26/05/2025 10:14

SapporoBaby · 26/05/2025 10:01

But I do think it’s really weird that he’s hogging her while you’re visiting

Yes, and why didn't DM tell him I'm spending time with my daughter I'll see you in a couple of days. Could she be afraid to say this? Not want to upset him? Most people would understand if their partner wants to spend time with their adult DC that they don't often see.

SapporoBaby · 26/05/2025 10:13

@Merrymousetrue, in the context of meeting someone was the first time it doesn’t sound quite oppositional.

AshFlintcombe · 26/05/2025 10:12

I’m the same age as your mum and have been widowed for a similar length of time.

I can’t imagine myself ever getting in a similar situation - but that’s the point, isn’t it, we all think it won’t happen to us until it does. Even the most feisty, independent and capable people can become very vulnerable after the death of a spouse.

Please do your best to alert her to the possible implications of trusting someone so completely at such an early stage in the relationship.

Does mum understand the risks she faces by giving him permission to enter her house when she’s not there?

The priority must be to stop him gaining access to the house - change the locks, stop using a key safe. Ask a trusted neighbour to keep an eye on the house when mum’s away and let you know if they have any concerns.

If he’s in the house when she’s not there he might gain access to financial paperwork, her will, property details etc, all of which could be used to put pressure on her to make decisions in his favour. He could even move in and prevent her from entering!

I hope you can find a way to raise this with her - in the end it may require some straight talking but if you tackle it with a practical security focus first that might be more acceptable to her.

ladyofshertonabbas · 26/05/2025 10:10

yanbu. Your mum being exhausted is a red flag. Possibly he’s exhausting her? I’d she’s in a good, new relationship she shouldn’t be feeling that way? It’s a tell tale sign that all isn’t well.

Merrymouse · 26/05/2025 10:07

SapporoBaby · 26/05/2025 09:59

Sorry but I’d actually say he’s right here. He says something and you shut him down as though he can’t possibly have an opinion. I wouldn’t say either of these was rude of him.

She wasn't shutting him down. In one instance she was just agreeing that the walk was lovely and that she knew it because she grew up in the area.

In the other she was just contributing to a conversation about trams.

Even if she had expressed herself in a way that he found a little irritating, in normal social discourse, you put up with that - particularly if you are meeting your new partner's child for the first time.

Lesleyann25 · 26/05/2025 10:06

Letstheriveranswer · 26/05/2025 09:02

This man is one huge walking red flag.

I feel like posters here have their soft gloves on because he is seen as elderly and hence more harmless.

It sounds like love bombing (which is why your mum has fallen for him) and coercive control. He is isolating her from you this week. He will probably be twisting things and telling her how rude he thought you were to him and slowly he will say how he doesn't like being around you because you are against him. He will be saying that of course they are a couple so have to always be together....if she loved him she'd want to always be with him....maybe she isn't committed if she doesn't want to talk to him several times a day... and she shouldn't invite you again as you are so rude to him.

It is incredibly rude of him not to back off and give your mum space when she has her daughter visiting!

I have friends of that age group and they would always understand that family comes first and give space to children

Try to talk to your mum and also talk to your relatives after the party and get their thoughts. If everyone speaks to your mum it might get through. I'd also tell her that classic abusive behaviour would be to start complaining about people close to her to isolate her, and say that if and when he starts doing that can she please remember your conversation.

Also ask her questions...whose idea was it for him to have her door code? Why does he need to go in when she isn't there to let him in?

Why did he move 3 hours away from where he used to live?

You could also do a Claire's law request. Just because he is elderly doesn't mean he hasn't been abusive before.

He sounds narcissistic and I have read that they get worse as they get older. I have what I would consider a narcissistic ex and he was a nightmare.

Reonie · 26/05/2025 10:04

SapporoBaby · 26/05/2025 09:59

Sorry but I’d actually say he’s right here. He says something and you shut him down as though he can’t possibly have an opinion. I wouldn’t say either of these was rude of him.

You can't be serious.

SapporoBaby · 26/05/2025 10:01

But I do think it’s really weird that he’s hogging her while you’re visiting

Merrymouse · 26/05/2025 10:01

AurumVox · 26/05/2025 02:06

See, mum actually thinks he is on the spectrum and that’s how she is excusing his behaviour. I didn’t want to put that as I absolutely agree that being autistic does not make or excuse those behaviours. But this is exactly what she has been putting it down to.
On the flip side he is telling her he recognises that he ‘f things up’ all the time, that he’s trying really hard and running things past her before he writes in the group WhatsApp messages to the group they met in etc, which also just doesn’t add up. He’s obviously aware and has some control over it.

I don't think this is the problem.

Without wishing to generalise, 'being on the spectrum' might lead to missing social cues, and not realising that he was dominating the conversation, but it wouldn't lead to him being upset that you had experience of living in a city with trams, or irritation at a banal comment about having grown up in the area.

echt · 26/05/2025 10:00

saraclara · 26/05/2025 09:51

You’re being far too nice about this. Your mum trusts you to be honest with her & you’re not.

Your mum raised the red flags early on. She was clearly concerned or she wouldn't have told you about them. She wanted your opinion, but you glossed over them.

I hate to say it, but you bear a degree of responsibility for this, and it's time you were completely honest with her. Anyone else would have responded to this grave trip by saying 'mum, I took time off work to come and see you, yet he's demanded your presence and we've hardly spent any time together. Why are you going with him, and why does he expect you to?'

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Re-read the OP's OP.

Lay off the assigning of responsibility to the OP FFS. What anyone else would have done is beside the point.

Lesleyann25 · 26/05/2025 10:00

AurumVox · 25/05/2025 23:35

The first time I met him was Tuesday and he’d just joined us to walk the dog. He’s not from here but moved to the area around 3 years ago. He’d been for a walk with mum previously and was telling me about a nice local walk I should try and I said nicely, well I actually grew up here and it is beautiful and his response was. “There really isn’t anything I can tell you or your mother that you don’t already know is there?”. I thought that was odd.
We went for a day shopping on Friday and on the way there he started talking about trams vs buses (seems random I know), and how trams weren’t financially viable compared to buses. I live in a city up north so was trying to explain how each cater to different needs/speeds/route etc and about three times he cut over me telling me I wasn’t listening to him, I wasn’t getting his point, I want understanding him. I wasn’t being rude at all just literally explaining how the systems are used in a city (nicely!).
May seem very trivial but at the time it felt very aggressive really. @PebbleDashAtOne

He sounds like my friends partner over the years I have tried to tel her he is abusive but she brushes it off. Now she has really bad anxiety, i do not even think she knows it’s because of him but he’s tells her everything is wrong and she is useless at everything. I’d be concerned too.

SapporoBaby · 26/05/2025 09:59

AurumVox · 25/05/2025 23:35

The first time I met him was Tuesday and he’d just joined us to walk the dog. He’s not from here but moved to the area around 3 years ago. He’d been for a walk with mum previously and was telling me about a nice local walk I should try and I said nicely, well I actually grew up here and it is beautiful and his response was. “There really isn’t anything I can tell you or your mother that you don’t already know is there?”. I thought that was odd.
We went for a day shopping on Friday and on the way there he started talking about trams vs buses (seems random I know), and how trams weren’t financially viable compared to buses. I live in a city up north so was trying to explain how each cater to different needs/speeds/route etc and about three times he cut over me telling me I wasn’t listening to him, I wasn’t getting his point, I want understanding him. I wasn’t being rude at all just literally explaining how the systems are used in a city (nicely!).
May seem very trivial but at the time it felt very aggressive really. @PebbleDashAtOne

Sorry but I’d actually say he’s right here. He says something and you shut him down as though he can’t possibly have an opinion. I wouldn’t say either of these was rude of him.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/05/2025 09:58

He is a very bad idea.

She sounds great and she has so much going for her. The last thing she needs is this man clinging to her, dragging her down, isolating her, criticising her.

When she voices her doubts you seem to have been defending him!

GrandmasCat · 26/05/2025 09:56

This is absolutely awful, it is true that men from other generations may have grown accustomed at having a wife always available for everything they may need want, but that level of control, which is not right but unfortunately common at that age, builds (or deteriorates into it) over years. The fact he is trying to get her there so quickly is far more than a red flag.

I think you need to start expressing what you feel if she asks you directly, instead of glossing over it or trying to get her to understand where this abuser is coming from.

Spacehop · 26/05/2025 09:54

Sorry OP but it's a thing. I'm not much younger than your mum and there's a sub-section of men this age who still think life revolves around them and their needs. They think that women will be so grateful to have a bloke in their life they'll give up all friendships and activities to sit and watch the snooker with them and make them snacks.

Tell your mum on no account to do this. This isn't a long term loving relationship where you've earned trust and compromise for each other. She sounds way too good for this chancer who just wants a housekeeper with benefits.

StScholastica · 26/05/2025 09:53

What evidence is there that he is autistic and not just a controlling arsehole? Is there a diagnosis?
My family are neurodiverse, none of us would act like this misogynistic, bombastic, controlling prick. Also where is his own family? Is he non contact with them? If so why?

Please stop being so polite about him.
Your mum may mistake your politeness for approval.

Frillysweetpea · 26/05/2025 09:53

Show her this thread. You sound lovely and she will surely see that your intent is all about caring for her well being.

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