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Mums new partner…red flags or is it me?

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AurumVox · 25/05/2025 23:12

Hi…I really need some advice if possible as I can’t tell if it’s me having an issue with my mums new partner because it’s new or whether I should be genuinely worried.

To give some context, I’m 41/F, my mum is 68. We lost our dad (step father who raised us) 3 years ago and my mum has started dating a guy (73) over the last 6 months. I met him this week as I live about 200 miles away so I’m visiting currently.

I want to start off by saying the huge amount of relief I felt when I found out that mum had met somebody, although it was hard and different I actively encouraged it as I knew how much mum was missing my stepdad who she was with for 31 years, I also worry a lot being so far away so to know that she’s been so happy and that she’s spending time enjoying her self has been the biggest relief.

In the first few months of them dating mum was really quite overwhelmed as she’s very independent, has a great network of friends and stays very busy. The guy she’s started dating is very intense and was wanting to spend all of his time with her so she was finding it hard to balance all the other commitments. I talked a lot to her about seeing it from his perspective as he has also lost his wife around 18 months ago. So I put a lot into talking things through with mum and encouraging her to communicate with him about how she was feeling etc.

About 3 weeks ago mum travelled up to stay with me and I looked after her dog while she went to her place in Crete, while she was staying he was calling her 4 x a day which I thought was a lot! Didn’t say anything though. She said this was normal for him. That he wanted to spend all of his time with her which she didn’t want. She had also said previously that lots of people disliked him because he often says the wrong thing and could be taken as rude / abrupt etc, that perhaps he was slightly lacked social skills. I again said well you know him in a different way so go with the your gut. They met through a solo group of which some of the members have apparently warned mum off him.
They get on great, and she’s said recently she’s totally fallen for him. My mum I would say is a very independent, intelligent, wise lady…so I would never have questioned her choice.

I met him this week, a couple of times now and he has been so rude to me that it was uncomfortable, for myself and for mum. The first time I let it go thinking maybe he’s nervous etc. but the 2nd time was pretty awful. I didn’t want to make a big deal and thought I’d wait for mum to bring it up which she did after he’d gone, saying she’d never seen him behave that rudely towards anybody before. I was surprised I managed not to react but instead I think I just froze and didn’t know what to do.

I also noticed he corrects her all the time and they have this constant ‘banter’ as mum calls it, where they almost argue who is right. To the onlooker it comes across as him telling her she’s wrong about everything. He also has the code to her key safe on the house. When we arrived back from mum staying with me he had let himself in and left her flowers and cooked a meal for us which was left in the fridge - which was a lovely gesture it just felt strange, like he’s totally love bombing her.

I’ve seriously wracked my brain over whether my issue is one of my own - am I still grieving, am I feeling possessive, I’ve gone over and over the mum deserves to be happy and so on. But my gut just can’t get past the way he spoke to me and how he is with her. I actually feel like a petulant child about it (which I hate!)…am I reading too much into it? Am I subconsciously trying to sabotage?! I simply don’t like him and I feel like I’m really trying to.

It’s hard because I obviously miss my stepdad terribly and its weird somebody else being here but I’m highly aware it’s her house, her life, she needs and deserves to be happy (which I want for her more than anything else) and at the end of the day my opinion doesn’t and shouldn’t matter (much).
It’s been strange because I’ve barely seen her and since I’ve been back she’s been over at his or stayed over there and when she’s been here she’s exhausted so our time has been limited. I’ve taken time off from work to come down and spend time with her and I’m pretty much just here doing very little.

I really don’t know what to do. Should I put my feelings aside despite what I feel are red flags? Or should I keep sharing my concerns which is making it really difficult?

Any advice or opinions would be welcomed - I’m realistic and if I’m coming across as bratty then I’m open to that too! I just want an outside non emotional perspective I guess?

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Velvian · 26/05/2025 06:43

Absolutely do a Claire's Law application. Dors your mum have grandchildren? I would think about a Sarah's Law too. Also do a bit of Googling to see if there is anything out there.

I really hope your mum breaks up with him, he sounds like bad news.

Bananafofana · 26/05/2025 06:38

@AurumVox this is really hard for me to to read as we went through a very similar situation with my widowed DM.

so many similarities. The new boyfriend was breathtakingly rude to me and engaged in “banter” and jokes about my mum that were just not at all funny. He was an intensely vain and narcissistic man but we went a long with it for far too long

everytime I tried to raise it my mother would cry and say how lonely she’d been since dad died. It was awful. One of my sisters supported the relationship as she thought it was better for mum to be with someone, my brother just shut fhe guy out.

my Mums assets were all in a family trust, the new boyfriend was very wealthy so we didn’t have any money worrries but it was the emotional abuse that was horrible.

in retrospect I should have held my line pointing out his poor behaviour and I should have got my siblings, aunts and uncles and family friends all to speak up. We were all too scared of upsetting mum.

anyway, horrible vicious two year relationship followed where dm lost contact with friends and became very isolated. She finally realised how bad it was and ended the relationship. This was a terrifying time as I genuinely feared for her safety. My brother had to move in with her.

the saddest thing is that mum was diagnosed with a terminal illness a year after the relationship ended and passed away. I regret those lost years while she was this dreadful man. Please don’t stand by - if you can, do speak up OP

Motherofalittledragon · 26/05/2025 06:36

Red flags a plenty here and your mum needs to get the hell away from him, speak up it sounds like he’s trying to isolate her so he’ll have her completely to himself. He’s already trying to control her. Who knows what he was doing in the house when he was alone there, I’d be checking that he hadn’t hidden anything to spy on her.

Kitjo · 26/05/2025 06:36

A love rat!! I’d be seeking more of his back story - he’s just landed out of the purple! What other family has he got, jobs, where has he lived, grown up etc etc get your mother to lock her finances down - there is nothing good about this one

Happywishful · 26/05/2025 06:32

Trust your gut

Amba1998 · 26/05/2025 06:19

In all honesty from what I’ve read your mum is seeing these red flags and is explaining them to you maybe to see if you can validate her but instead you seemed to have glossed over them. I think you really need to step up here and share your concerns with her.

what is his financial / living situation?

FortyElephants · 26/05/2025 06:18

tripleginandtonic · 26/05/2025 06:17

I thought autistic before I read anything. More the directness that comes across as rude and the inability to take on someone else's knowledge without finishing their points first and having to be right.
Your mum is at fault though, not making any time for you.
Personally I'd be honest and say he's stifling her but she sounds so emeshec I dount that will.go down well.

Maybe he is autistic but his rudeness to OP was actual rudeness, not bluntness or talking over her. The comment about her always being right is pure fragile masculinity lashing out.

tripleginandtonic · 26/05/2025 06:17

I thought autistic before I read anything. More the directness that comes across as rude and the inability to take on someone else's knowledge without finishing their points first and having to be right.
Your mum is at fault though, not making any time for you.
Personally I'd be honest and say he's stifling her but she sounds so emeshec I dount that will.go down well.

spicemaiden · 26/05/2025 06:17

Hes not lacking in social skills. He knows EXACTLY what he’s doing. He is trying to isolate her.

spoonbillstretford · 26/05/2025 06:16

I talked a lot to her about seeing it from his perspective as he has also lost his wife around 18 months ago

I don't understand why you would do this without meeting him first.You basically told her to ignore red flags. While she is a grown woman and can make her own decisions, your view also carries weight. Also it sounds like she has a lot of friends, and you, if you actually make an effort. You seemed to have a mindset that she desperately needed another man and were keen to encourage almost anyone as long as she was in a relationship, which I find odd.

AlteredStater · 26/05/2025 06:16

Massive red flags. I think he was rude to you because he's jealous, and wants to keep your mum to himself. This will gradually erode all her other relationships. Change the key safe code, please. As for the wife's grave trip - no, just no. None of this sounds healthy and isn't going in a good direction.

VivIsBlonde · 26/05/2025 06:15

AurumVox · 26/05/2025 00:23

@S0j0urn4r No sorry, I meant it’s his late wife’s birthday so he’s taking mum to her grave - still just as odd though.

That’s so strange, why would he want to take your mum there on that specific day especially as he knows you’re there visiting your mum?
Your mum doesn’t have to go with him, she can say no to him and spend the day with you or is she too scared to say no to him?

TookTheBook · 26/05/2025 06:11

Why are you both being such doormats about this? So much hand wringing - yes he's a controlling knob. What now?

Change the key safe code immediately. Talk your mum out of the trip to the ex wife's grave, that's so inappropriate. He should go alone and you and mum spend quality time together. His response to that will also show you who he is.

Muffinmam · 26/05/2025 06:07

AurumVox · 26/05/2025 00:13

@TheSmallAssassin She said she felt really guilty about it on Thursday that’s why I suggested he came out shopping for the day so that we could all do something - this was after he knew we were going and had said to her he was thinking of going anyway.
I think she feels very torn though I’ve not put any pressure on her so she knows. I get the impression she doesn’t know what to do.
I did say to her this evening that I felt like I wanted to go back to Manchester as I was feeling uncomfortable and awkward about the whole thing. Tomorrow he is taking her on a 3 hour journey back to where he and his wife are from as it’s her birthday and to visit the grave. It’s just all weird. So that’s another full day I won’t see her for so it just feels very pointless being here really.

Whose birthday? Your mother’s or this man’s dead wife?

It’s highly inappropriate that your mother leave with him on this day. You are visiting your mother and he keeps taking her away or burdening you with his presence.

Why don’t you tell your mother that this isn’t healthy?

FortyElephants · 26/05/2025 06:04

She's choosing to go with him on a day trip to his late wife's grave while you're visiting instead of staying home with you?
I am afraid this relationship has already tipped into abusive. Why would she do that if not being coerced in some way, via emotional manipulation?
I also think you were wrong to talk her out of her instincts at the start. She was telling you he was a red flag and you told her to give him another chance!

GreenCandleWax · 26/05/2025 06:00

S0j0urn4r · 26/05/2025 00:19

@AurumVox
He's celebrating your mum's birthday by taking her on a 6hr round trip to visit his late wife's grave????
WTAF?

Could be a tactic to get DM away from OP, but very weird. Am wondering why DM is going along with it if it means another day of OP's visit is missed by her. Seems very strange. Is she already being controlled by him? Do find a way to have that face-to-face chat with her - on her own obviously.🍀

begone25 · 26/05/2025 05:49

@AcrossthePond55I was going to write a similar reply about changing the safe code and seeing how he responds. @AurumVox do you know the back story behind her giving him the code? For me that is incredibly concerning. As others have suggested maybe go on this day trip with your mum? Good luck!

Mumdiva99 · 26/05/2025 05:45

Your mum going out for the day with him when you are down is odd. Ask her to stay with you.
Your mum didn't know thenwofe so has nothing invested in going woth him. She does however have a lot invested in her relationship with you. You should be her priority. Show her this thread. He is isolating her.
Help her with strategies for ending it. Talk to her put the practical steps she cann take too.
Does she have any close friends locally that can help her too?

Onthemaintrunkline · 26/05/2025 05:43

No, I don’t think you are over-thinking this. 4 x times a day phone calls - is he checking up on her?!! Way way too much. And the correcting he does concerning her, - a huge red flag. Letting himself into her house whilst she’s not there, umm no, I don’t think so, it gives him the possibility or opportunity of snooping. He does sound from what you say ‘intense’. His rudeness is another unpleasant side altogether.

A difficult situation as you say your Mum is happy. She sounds really on to it, I think she may well see him through new eyes after his rudeness toward you.

Cosycoffees · 26/05/2025 05:37

I was in a very similar situation unfortunately. I really wanted my DF to be happy and was relieved when he started dating again as it took the pressure off me.
However she was awful. So rude and I couldn't even see my DF without her being there. But she would ignore me. She would expect my dad to drive her everywhere and buy her everything. She wanted to move in after 6 months. He was exhausted from the stress of it all.
I ended up telling him how I felt and how rude she was.etc, but he didn't listen. He just could not see that she was love bombing him.
Fortunately a few months later they broke up after she was really rude to him, and something finally clicked. He has met somebody else now who is lovely.

I think you have to tell your mum what you are thinking. She might decide not to act on it, but hopefully will recognise that his behaviour is not right and she will eventually see him for what he is.

daisychain01 · 26/05/2025 05:29

So within 6 months your DM has already given him a key so he can access her home - bad move! That alone would give me cause to warn her in the most stark terms that she hardly knows him, yet he has access to her property. Big security risk, right there. Next thing you find out he's coercing her to change her will... stranger things have happened, and quite frankly he's a stranger to her after only 6 months.

his behaviour - wanting to isolate her from family and friends, controlling what she says and the fact he is so self-opinionated, is another warning sign he's a baddun. Your DM is an adult, but seems to have poor judgement on this one. If it was my mum I would have to point all these things out, just the once, then leave her to make her own choices, as she's an adult.

ZekeZeke · 26/05/2025 05:17

I would be spending as much time WITH him (and your mum)as possible.
Have your responses to his rudeness ready. Perhaps if she witnesses you standing up to him and his arrogance she may come to her senses.

Heylittlesongbird · 26/05/2025 05:15

I actually think that you should ask her not to go on the dead wife grave trip. Ask her to spend some time with you instead.

If she agrees try and have a nice day out somewhere and explain everything you’ve told us here that makes you worried.

If she insists on going out with him for the day then you’ll have to do it tonight.

I know it’s hard working and living so far away but if you can I think you need to up your physical presence in her life to be there for her and to counteract him and his controlling nature.

user1492757084 · 26/05/2025 05:10

Implore your mother to take it more slowly.
No moving in, no eloping and no keys to any safes, doors or password sharing.
Ask her to keep a secret diary of his behaviour.

knittasgonna · 26/05/2025 03:43

I'd find that dynamic really worrying. The fact that multiple people have found him rude, controlling, or just odd is significant and imo that means it's not just you overreacting or finding it difficult to see her with someone other than your dad.

I'd definitely encourage her to take everyone's concerns to heart and at least step back slightly from the relationship. If it would be easier for her to add a little distance by taking a holiday to visit you, a family member, or a friend, I'd suggest that. She owes it to herself to take things a little more slowly so she can make the right decision for her, not be rushed into a more serious, committed relationship just because this man is pushy and wants things to progress quickly.

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