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To take separate holidays from now on

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Copenhagener · 25/05/2025 06:41

I’ve always travelled a lot - sometimes with my partner and also solo. We prefer busy itineraries and lots of sightseeing rather than chilling out at the pool.

We now have a 6 month old daughter. Just took her on her first trip to Puglia in Italy with my partner and it’s been underwhelming. His choice of destination.

Our daughter has been great, sleeping through the night and excited by the surroundings which was a pleasant surprise - but the itinerary was too full on (4 hotels, driving every day to new spots, meals out) and he’s quite annoyed by how unrelaxing it is.

There’s the 1-5pm siesta, which doesn’t help with flexibility. He’s now saying he’s sick and grumpy and tired and just wants to chill. I’ve cancelled the last hotel so we can stay in place, but I feel his expectations were unrealistic. I also offered him the chance to fly home early but he didn’t want to.

I’ve told him that in future I’d prefer we holiday separately (at least until daughter is older) as this trip felt like hard work and I’ve not enjoyed it much. I booked a solo trip to northern Greece in September and will take a week off while he stays home with daughter. He’s off to a music festival for a week in July so I feel it’s fair. He says he’s sad we won’t holiday as a family in future, but has barely cracked a smile the whole time we’ve been here.

Am I being unreasonable to take family trips off the table for the next few years and go solo?

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SlieveMiskish · 25/05/2025 07:38

I think with children apartments are so much easier than hotels, as with kitchens and living rooms there’s more space.. and you can eat or prepare sandwiches when you like..

bigboykitty · 25/05/2025 07:37

It sounds like the trip your DH wanted did not match with his needs and energy levels and his grumpiness spoiled the holiday for you. It would have worked fine, possibly, if he was not needing so much sleep and rest. His lie ins scuppered everything. I'd be pissed off, given he chose this trip and you organised it based on his wishes. Is this unusual for him? It doesn't sound like much fun for you.

FedupofArsenalgame · 25/05/2025 07:35

1AngelicFruitCake · 25/05/2025 07:26

We did as others have said, booked a holiday they would like but added things for us to make it nicer.

A 6 month old baby won't care where they are as long as with parents. No need to base holiday around then.
Seems the issue isn't actually the child but the DH feeling unwell, being grumpy and moaning

Rtato · 25/05/2025 07:35

I find going abroad much easier with little ones - much better than staying at home, but we both love holidays!

Why do you have to sit inside everyday for so long? Go for a walk, look at the architecture, have a drink in a cafe/bar, you don’t need to wait for things to open.

I’d make the most of seeing the sights now as it gets more tricky when they are older as they’re more vocal about being bored. Then beach holidays are great, they seem to be able to spend hours on the beach playing and we mix it up with a bit of sightseeing and days out. Self catering is so much easier at that age. Go out for lunch all together, do whatever activities, then you can have a nice relaxed meal when they’re in bed.

You can still both take it in turns to have a lie in, go out for an early lunch instead of breakfast, then go and have a look around outside.

ChocolateMagnum · 25/05/2025 07:35

You are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Instead of just not holidaying together, sit down, reflect on this one, and learn from it. That's it!

GetOffTheCounter · 25/05/2025 07:35

TheatreTraveller · 25/05/2025 07:03

You both need to prioritise your daughter and do trips she will enjoy. This absolutely doesn't mean you have to stop travelling, you just need to adjust and adapt.
DS7 and DD4 have been all over on holidays and we've loved every single one.

Exactly this. So for a few years you will be having holidays that you will not necessarily enjoy as much as the ones you did when child-free. Little kids often just love splashing in a pool for example. But that will change. It's one of those things that you just have to get to grips with as a family.

FWIW we really had to persevere longer than most with family holidays as our now 15 year old has autism and really found a change of locale very difficult to deal with. So there were a few trips to Centreparcs or to AI hotels in Spain and Greece. By the time he was 10 he was a seasoned traveller and now absolutely loves travelling. This year we are going to the Great Barrier Reef and plan to do things like whale watching. 5 years ago he would not have coped, but we took things at his pace and developed his adventure muscles, so to speak.

Imisscoffee2021 · 25/05/2025 07:34

The thing I learned about having a child is never plan your life around the stage they're currently in, especially under a year old as they change constantly. Yes holidays will be different but that's to be expected, my husband and I are keen hikers for example and always had week long hikes in remote places - on hold til our toddler is older. Your husband is being short sighted, things will change fast.

You're in a different era atm and it'll pass, my husband and I missed eachother and our life and lamented the prospect of not doing our hikes and city breaks anymore, but tbh now our son is a toddler, we would miss our little buddy if he wasnt with us so happy to have different breaks now, and to have really lived it up with ehat we enjoy in our twenties and early 30s together before parenthood.

Tiddlywinkly · 25/05/2025 07:33

JeMapellePing · 25/05/2025 07:11

Maybe think about having it all if you can afford it. Each of you has a trip that you organise on your own so you can do whatever you want. You should also organise a holiday your child will enjoy that you do together. Divide your holiday budget up appropriately. Things will change when DC goes to school as school holidays are tricky from a child care point of view. Sounds like a bit of a shock to the system -- and yes, having a baby changes your life and what you can do completely. DC will be different every year in terms of what they can do. I have not enjoyed a holiday in the way I used to since I became a parent (18 years ago) but that is part and parcel of being a parent.

This is largely what I came on to say, but I have mostly enjoyed our holidays, having significantly adapted my expectations.

It's great if you've got the budget to do a mix of solo and family trips (wish I had!).

Kids change your life. It can be hard to adjust. For years we did sun holidays in hotels with separate bedrooms or dividers. Ones that had splash parks/beaches and did a few day trips to ruins or cities e.g. Greece/Italy/France. Trying to do a bit for everyone.

School really limits flexibility and adds huge cost to trips. Now the kids are tweens, we've added city breaks staying in aparthotels and have done a Norwegian fjord cruise. We've had a really great time.

Talk it through with your DH.

Antsinmypantsneedtodance · 25/05/2025 07:32

You need to find a compromise and adjust your holidays and expectations.

Holidaying solo comes accross as quite selfish to me. Does your child never get to travel then?

I love travel. Used to do crazy itineraries travelling through exotic places. We now have a child, we've adjusted. Rather than 1 or 2 nights in places we now do 2 or 3 locations per holiday max. A slower pace. Rather than cheaper hotels or even nice hotel we tend to air bnb it. If in europe we eurocamp in carvans. We focus our travel arpund your child. Make sure theres a pool if possible, cook food more, find fun child friendly things to see and do. Travel is different now for sure. But i enjoy it just as much, if not more. The joy of being a travel loving parent is i now get to share it with my child and see her joy in exploring and finding new places and things. Yes sometimes this means experiecing playroungs around the world. But that's part of being a parent.

hhtddbkoygv · 25/05/2025 07:29

This makes no sense. Was it too busy or not busy enough?

I couldn't imagine leaving my dc for a week at that age and you make it sound like it's a punishment for him. Very odd.

1AngelicFruitCake · 25/05/2025 07:26

We did as others have said, booked a holiday they would like but added things for us to make it nicer.

FiveWhatByFiveWhat · 25/05/2025 07:26

Copenhagener · 25/05/2025 07:16

Some really helpful points so far, thank you. We’re both a bit stressed right now as many of you have identified - and I think because it’s the first holiday as a family the expectations were too high.

I suppose I’m annoyed because I recommended we do an easy first trip - a week on a Greek island staying in one place, with minimal travelling. He wanted to do a multi-center trip to Puglia with a focus on sightseeing across the cities/towns. I duly planned it for us. Now he thinks it’s been too full on. He wants to sleep until 10am, (baby is up at 6/7) so by then it’s hard to get breakfast as Italians eat so early, and I’ve been looking after baby for 3 hours alone. Then by the time we arrive at the destination we have an hour or two at most before everything closes for siesta and we still need to get lunch - which finishes at 2pm. Then it’s 4 hours of sitting inside until 6pm when everything reopens. It just feels so rushed and a bit pointless. Puglia is beautiful though.

I of course want to travel with daughter in the future! I’d be okay with a straightforward trip with her together - but I want her to see her parents at their best, not arguing and stressed.

It sounds like maybe he underestimated how different things would be with the baby and how tired he would be! Rookie mistake basically 🤣 I know it's really frustrating, but try not to blow it too out proportion, he may well feel a bit silly and defensive for getting it wrong. It sounds like he'd be more open to the kind of holiday you suggested now he's actually done a holiday with a child!

FedupofArsenalgame · 25/05/2025 07:25

Copenhagener · 25/05/2025 07:19

We discussed it! I’m normally the holiday planner - he told me what he wanted and I booked it. There were even spreadsheets involved. But now we are here he says it’s not the type of holiday he wants.

But is that anything to actually do with the baby though?

It does sound a bit full on ( and I'm a traveller who likes seeing lots of places) . Maybe slow down a bit and intersperse sightseeing says with a couple of chill out ones

HaveCreditWillShop · 25/05/2025 07:25

Copenhagener · 25/05/2025 07:16

Some really helpful points so far, thank you. We’re both a bit stressed right now as many of you have identified - and I think because it’s the first holiday as a family the expectations were too high.

I suppose I’m annoyed because I recommended we do an easy first trip - a week on a Greek island staying in one place, with minimal travelling. He wanted to do a multi-center trip to Puglia with a focus on sightseeing across the cities/towns. I duly planned it for us. Now he thinks it’s been too full on. He wants to sleep until 10am, (baby is up at 6/7) so by then it’s hard to get breakfast as Italians eat so early, and I’ve been looking after baby for 3 hours alone. Then by the time we arrive at the destination we have an hour or two at most before everything closes for siesta and we still need to get lunch - which finishes at 2pm. Then it’s 4 hours of sitting inside until 6pm when everything reopens. It just feels so rushed and a bit pointless. Puglia is beautiful though.

I of course want to travel with daughter in the future! I’d be okay with a straightforward trip with her together - but I want her to see her parents at their best, not arguing and stressed.

Sorry should have read this first. Your husband is being a bit of a knob and reality of having kids hasn’t fully caught up with him yet. I do think it’s normal to grieve a bit for your life before, but this is getting a bit out of hand.

Smoronic · 25/05/2025 07:25

You need to go somewhere that has a lot to look at and explore but doesn't require multiple hotels and moves. That way he can stay in and chill every other day while you wander around villages being Shirley Valentine.

Copenhagener · 25/05/2025 07:24

CharityShopMensGlasses · 25/05/2025 07:22

Getting up at ten is the biggest issue isn't it. That's a rubbish strategy in a place where everything is closed in the afternoon.

It’s not ideal! But he’s so tired from a stressful time at work and now he’s saying he’s feeling unwell, so I don’t want to force him up earlier. We’re going to bed at 10pm, so it feels a bit the top to me. But he does genuinely look knackered.

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Zanatdy · 25/05/2025 07:24

Try again with the overseas holiday when the little one is 4-5. It gets a lot easier then. I think travelling around and having such a packed itinerary doesn’t suit babies. Either go for a self catering villa holiday or just do separate holidays until she’s a little older.

CharityShopMensGlasses · 25/05/2025 07:22

Getting up at ten is the biggest issue isn't it. That's a rubbish strategy in a place where everything is closed in the afternoon.

converseandjeans · 25/05/2025 07:21

You could have one solo trip each & then do a family trip each year. To be honest that’s why places like Center Parcs, caravan parks, Eurocamp type places were invented - because they are geared towards families. There are plenty of other child friendly places that are probably nicer than those (Kinderhotels are supposed to be nice). I would also try to split the workload while you’re away so you both get a lie in, some time for a swim etc.. I think men cope less well with the disruption of babies. I think you both need to accept that you have a few more years of a less relaxing holiday.

JeMapellePing · 25/05/2025 07:21

The child wasn't central to his planning. As a PP said, learning experience. For holidays to be enjoyable with a child, their needs must be factored in from the beginning. Chalk it up to experience, talk about it properly when you get home, consider more carefully what you plan and book next time.

Sirzy · 25/05/2025 07:20

So you learn from what has happened this time and plan with it for next time. Don’t just give up on taking your baby away!

HolidayHattie · 25/05/2025 07:20

He is being an arse. If he's the one who wanted to do all the sightseeing then he needs to get out of bed early enough to do it!

FamBae · 25/05/2025 07:19

So if I read your post correctly, DH chose the destination and arranged the itinerary but forgot to factor in DC's needs and is now a little frazzled. Parenting is a learning curve, you both now know for next time and can adjust accordingly.

Copenhagener · 25/05/2025 07:19

Wilfuf · 25/05/2025 07:11

You booked a holiday without actually discussing what you wanted out of a holiday

We discussed it! I’m normally the holiday planner - he told me what he wanted and I booked it. There were even spreadsheets involved. But now we are here he says it’s not the type of holiday he wants.

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HaveCreditWillShop · 25/05/2025 07:18

For context, I’m a mum of 2, now aged 9 and 5. Before kids, we used to take a month off work and ‘do’ South America, Asia etc. not backpacking but not far off. Crazy itineraries, weird transport, last minute hotels, sketchy situations!
Then we had kids. It is hard to adjust. The fact you guys have jumped to ‘we must holiday separately’ is strange to me. Your daughter is probably just being weaned and that is hard. We did our first family holiday when our first was 6 months and yes it’s a right pain in the butt - finding food they’ll eat, nappies, still doing bottles, naps, the buggy, car seats.
In all honesty, we have changed the way we travel. We have done family hotels with pools in Mallorca, Greece and Tenerife. Yes it’s a bit pedestrian compared to proper travelling, but it’s the best way for us to make it enjoyable.
i do understand coming home and feeling like you need a holiday from your holiday! I promise you it gets easier. Last year was the first year we started to do ‘travelling’ travel with the kids, when youngest was 4. She will eat pizza, grilled chicken and pasta and that will take you most places! No nappies, no bottles, no changing mat. We do still need the buggy!
Last year we did a trip to Seville and a separate trip to Cannes/Nice/Montecarlo, but all based from one hotel in Nice.
Big mega hotels with a pool might not be your taste, it’s not our preference either, but don’t miss out on the family memories, and someone else going all the cooking and cleaning! And I promise you, by the time she’s 4 or 5, you’ll be able to do so much more with her.

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