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To report driving instructor to police

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AdeptTiger · 24/05/2025 23:25

Driving instructor has been filming my autistic DS in the car. He's been turning the car seat heaters on, unknowingly, and DS has been coming home distressed, covered in sweat. He's put it down to nerves all along, but did think it a bit odd. We have only now discovered this as a friend, who is also a friend of the driving instructor, told us they were shown a video, and the driving instructor seems to have been taking the piss out of DS, turning the heaters on, and taking pleasure in DS becoming distressed and complaining how warm it is. He had filmed DS's distress on more than one occasion.

I confronted the driving instructor who has denied it.

I think it's absolutely abhorrent the way DS has been treated. DS is very shy and quiet, he gets extreme anxiety from social interactions. We made him take driving lessons to better his life but now feel terrible, this has been going on for 6 months and we didn't have a clue. When he comes home he is literally covered in sweat patches. We've already moved him to another driving instructor, to whom we explained what happened, but the new driving instructor seems to think it's not that big a deal and minimises the impact it had on DS...

This 60-year-old man bullying an 18-year-old neurodivergent boy is really making my blood boil and I don't know what to do. Am I overreacting? Is it just a 'joke' and a 'laugh'? Even a driving examiner friend of mine didn't seem to understand fully, or just refused to understand, brushed it under the rug and said, sort of dismissively, 'Just for a joke'. I don't think he understood DS was being filmed unknowingly, and I'm pretty sure he just thought the whole thing was made up.

Anyway, AIBU?

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ByZanyRubyOrca · 25/05/2025 16:48

Doubt the police will do anything. But would report him to relevant people. I assume he will have some sort of social media advertising his service? I would call him out on there so other clients will see.

mumda · 25/05/2025 15:33

CCTV of your son is his personal data.
He can probably ask for a copy of that.
There are rules relating to subject access requests.

IzzyHandsIsMySpiritAnimal · 25/05/2025 12:31

ZeldaFighter · 24/05/2025 23:53

I would report this to absolutely everyone. I'm not a lawyer or police but I'm pretty sure there is criminal behaviour:

Police
Council - safeguarding/adult social care
Driving instructor chain
Driving instructor governing body
Government (as per pp's link)

I'd even be trying to get his DBS revoked.

This is appalling behaviour. He needs to be drummed out of being a Driving instructor.

Absolutely all this.

Also, it may or may not be an issue to use a mobile phone but you're meant to tell someone that you're recording otherwise it's not done with consent. Add that into the gaslighting and general treatment of someone neurodivergent and I think there's a reasonable case of someone being unsuited to their job.

AdeptTiger · 25/05/2025 11:58

Thank you all for your kind words and advice. I'm going to contact the relevant people first thing tomorrow. It's such weird behaviour and like a couple of you have said I bet DS isn't the first he has done this to, no way. He actually showed the video to friend when they were out, he casually pulled his phone out of his pocket and said, 'Look at this boy', and clearly found the distress more than amusing. He didn't send it to anyone or anything, and I'm sure he would've deleted it faster than you can say cheese after we confronted him about it (we confronted him over the phone because DS missed lessons after we found out about it, though wish we did it in person now). He just outright denied it and said he would never do that. The friend in question is actually quite close with him, and their children see him as an uncle. Friend didn't think it was acceptable so hence let us know. All I will say is this is in south Wales.

Thank you all.

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LakieLady · 25/05/2025 10:31

Welshwhales · 25/05/2025 03:20

REPORT brings back terrible memories of sexual harassment from a 60 year old driving instructor I had . It's all a form of abuse and they think they can get away with it .

I was sexually harassed by a driving instructor, too, but such things were barely talked about back then ('70s), so I just changed instructors. I wish I'd reported the fucker.

He was an ex-copper too, which makes me wonder if he'd abused his power to abuse other women in the course of his career.

Ramblethroughthebrambles · 25/05/2025 10:11

EBearhug · 24/05/2025 23:47

This does seem like a good way forward. Would your DS feel able to make the complaint himself with your support? It might help him feel better about having been a target. There's an email address for complaints so you could start by finding out about the complaints process if you are unsure. They say there's no obligation to also take it to the police.

I can appreciate your concern about getting on the wrong side of this man and his family, but most people in his situation would be cautious. Any evidence of him retaliating would mean further risk to his livelihood (CCTV ringbell etc). He needs stopping from causing further harm to young people. Obviously, if you can get hold of the video he's sharing then you've a much stronger case. Could you ask the friend to forward it to you without saying how you plan to use it? Ooch, I know, but maybe ends justify means sometimes. This is appalling!

Kevintheelf80 · 25/05/2025 10:05

How awful! What a horrible bully! I would report him to whatever body governs driving instructors and I'd also make sure I warned every person I knew about his disgusting bullying behaviour! Does he have a Web page you could post a very honest review on?

Starlight7080 · 25/05/2025 09:36

I would report . Just so it's on record. You never know he may have other reports made against him already.
Can you leave a review about him anywhere? Warn others who may suffer the same from him.
Your poor ds. Learning to drive is stressful enough

Pearl69 · 25/05/2025 09:25

He must be registered as part of a professional body - you could get him struck off (which he deserves) .

I feel for you OP, this moron has abused his position of trust and treated your DS appallingly. How cruel to film your boy like that. The new instructor sounds no better - there is no minimising this.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 25/05/2025 09:17

He’s a lousy teacher if your son didn’t understand the meaning of lines on the road after six months of lessons, yet readily understood when this was explained to him. Also using his phone while supposedly teaching.

Definitely point out these things in a review. You may not want to ruffle any feathers while your son still needs a local instructor. I hope your son soon passes his test, now that he has a better (even though unsympathetic) instructor.

As soon as he’s passed, I would post a scathing but factual and unemotional review of the disgusting first instructor.

Shelby2010 · 25/05/2025 09:14

Alternatively perhaps you could tell us what town you are in & hope the Daily Mail pick up this thread. I doubt your son is the first person he has done this to.

caramac04 · 25/05/2025 09:12

Utterly vile behaviour. I’m furious on your son’s behalf. Also really sad to think of this nasty behaviour.
The DI is an utter c**t and I don’t use that word lightly.

bloodredfeaturewall · 25/05/2025 09:08

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 25/05/2025 08:59

@bloodredfeaturewall

Excuse me? Are you suggesting the DI was stress testing his client rather than bullying a young autistic person? Unfortunately, filming him on his mobile phone then sharing the footage and laughing at the discomfort he has caused very strongly suggests otherwise.

Those of us who are NT have a responsibility to help protect those in society who can't do it themselves.

Edited

of course I am not.

and I think everyone should have the opportunity to participate fully in society.

but not everyone can/should drive. and sometimes it only becomes apparent during lessons.

Shelby2010 · 25/05/2025 09:08

AdeptTiger · 25/05/2025 00:22

I don't think he was directing the camera towards my DS at all times, apart from quickly directing it towards him here and there. From what I understand, he'd casually have it in his lap sort of, the few times DS saw him on his phone, he assumed he was texting someone.

As the driving instructor is legally supervising a learner, I’m pretty sure it’s against the law for him to be on his phone at all. The same as if he was driving himself.

If you could get hold of the video, surely this would be a police matter. Otherwise, your son has seen him on his phone in the car, so possibly could report him.

StScholastica · 25/05/2025 09:07

We reported a driving instructor who was a far right dick. He told our 17 year old son that it's fine to drive at Muslims and tried to get him into Andrew Tate websites.
He is still teaching.

AltitudeCheck · 25/05/2025 09:06

https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-driving-instructor

You should report the phone use (which your son saw) if nothing else.

WhoAteTheLastBrownie · 25/05/2025 09:04

This is deplorable and this man shouldn't be working with young people at all, specially vulnerable ones.

Theroadt · 25/05/2025 09:01

I voted YABU only because of thd police element. If what you say is correct (snd whilst I don’t didbrlieve you, I don’t think you have any actual evidence?) he is an appalling bully. However, surely the best steps going forwards are: (1) change instructors (2) report to DVLA and his employer (3) leave a bad review online (eg Facebook if that’s where he or the company advertises). I think jumping to the police is not the appropriatd way to go, unless you actually can show tgem the film.

Timetochillnow · 25/05/2025 09:01

It’s a real shame that you don’t have a copy of the video. But I’d be telling the police about his use of the mobile whilst supervising a learner if he was filming whilst the car was actually being driven at the time .

How did your friend who told you about it react to it? Would they step up to confirm what they’d seen if you pursue this further?
I’d definitely report the driving instructor - via the link you’ve been given several times upthread
if nothing else it can start a record of complaints and that may build a profile for them to take action is others add to it

For all you know your complaint may be the one they need to take action

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 25/05/2025 08:59

@bloodredfeaturewall

Excuse me? Are you suggesting the DI was stress testing his client rather than bullying a young autistic person? Unfortunately, filming him on his mobile phone then sharing the footage and laughing at the discomfort he has caused very strongly suggests otherwise.

Those of us who are NT have a responsibility to help protect those in society who can't do it themselves.

midlifeattheoasis · 25/05/2025 08:57

I would report him to the governing body if he is a member of one and would certainly be posting something on SM to name and shame him.

It's disgusting behaviour

Mygosh · 25/05/2025 08:57

That's awful behaviour.

A driving instructor is not allowed to use a mobile phone during lessons, they are just as much in charge of the vehicle as the learner.

It is illegal for him to use his phone whilst teaching, please report to the police.

AnotherNameChange1234567 · 25/05/2025 08:57

AdeptTiger · 25/05/2025 00:22

I don't think he was directing the camera towards my DS at all times, apart from quickly directing it towards him here and there. From what I understand, he'd casually have it in his lap sort of, the few times DS saw him on his phone, he assumed he was texting someone.

This is the criminal offence you are looking for. A driving instructor cannot use their phone when supervising pupils.

AhBiscuits · 25/05/2025 08:50

You don't have any evidence and he's said it isn't true. Unfortunately, I can't see this going anywhere.

I'm glad to hear that some cars have CCTV now, I'll definitely be checking on that when it's time for DD to have lessons. My driving instructor use to talk to me about sex and put his hand on my thigh. I didn't have the confidence at 17 to tell him to fuck off.

Motomum23 · 25/05/2025 08:46

My husband was a driving instructor for 30 years OP and what you describe in terms of bullying isn't uncommon behavior. I think many think they are untouchable and to a certain extent they are. I don't think the police will give you the time of day. I would definitely make a complaint to the DVLA - deliberately making a learner distracted and distressed is dangerous and shows a real lack of common sense.
The other things I'd consider although I don't think you'll get particularly far it might put the wind up him.... factual, scathing reviews all over social media - hit him in the business and a small claims pursuit of a refund - you probably won't win it but for £30 you'll get the satisfaction of making him jump through annoying court hoops and perhaps he will think twice before fucking around with his pupils again