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To cancel DD’s dance comp after what she said to her little brother?

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Blondra · 24/05/2025 18:12

Bit of a long one, sorry in advance.

Had a nightmare of an afternoon. Was rushing around trying to get everything sorted for tomorrow, eldest (11, Yr 7) has a dance comp she’s been banging on about for weeks. Spent half my bloody life glueing gems to a crop top she INSISTED she had to have.

Anyway, little one (8) accidentally knocked over a glass of juice and it went all over said top. He was already in tears, bless him, before she absolutely LOST it and called him “a freak who ruins everything” right in front of me.

I told her she was being horrible and she needed to apologise. She rolled her eyes and said “he is though” then stormed upstairs slamming doors.

I was fuming and told her she’s not going to the comp now. Cue full meltdown, crying, saying I’ve ruined her life etc. Now she’s sulking in her room, hasn’t come down since.

Partner thinks I’ve gone too far and should’ve just sent her tomorrow and “had a word” but I’m sick of her attitude and the way she treats her brother. He’s not easy, no, but he’s her sibling and it’s not on.

AIBU to follow through and not let her go? Or have I made it worse now by cancelling it when she’s been looking forward to it for months?

I just want to do the right thing but feel like I can’t win sometimes.

OP posts:
Blondra · 24/05/2025 19:12

Thanks everyone, appreciate the replies.

I know I probably went too far, it’s just been one of those days where everything builds up and I lost my patience. She has worked hard and I know how much it means to her, I just really struggled with how nasty she was in that moment. It wasn’t just the top, it was the way she looked at him and said it, like she hated him.

By “not easy” I mean he can be full on. He’s got some stuff going on, we’re waiting on assessments, and he does get a lot of my time/energy which I think she resents. She’s been quite snappy with him recently and I’ve probably let too much slide.

You’re all right though — taking away the comp would probably just make her feel worse and not actually teach her anything. I’ll speak to her properly, make sure she gets how hurtful that was and that she needs to apologise properly to both of us.

Will find another punishment that actually makes sense and doesn’t hurt something she’s worked for.

Honestly feel like I’m winging it most days, but thanks again.

OP posts:
BrickJoker · 24/05/2025 19:09

Espressosummer · 24/05/2025 19:06

I wouldn't be so sure it was an accident. And perhaps if her mum actually did something occasionally about his behaviour, that she herself thinks is hard, then perhaps the daughter wouldn't have said what she did. Everyone has their breaking point. Being treated like an adult while your 3 year younger brother gets treated like a toddler ( with the bless him, and little one) will damage the daughter's mental health.
All 3 should be apologising.

I don't disagree with you, actually, but let me just get this correct now:

  • You're assuming complete knowledge of the 8-year-old's true intentions, that he did it deliberately, when he immediately started crying (very telling). What we know for a fact is the daughter called him a freak who ruins everything.
  • Blaming the mother for the son's spilling of the juice, and any previous behaviour.
Espressosummer · 24/05/2025 19:08

blubbyblub · 24/05/2025 19:06

On what basis are you suddenly determining that the boy is anything at all? What a horrible attitude. All the kid has done is be 8 and spill a drink.

the girl is the one who has demonstrated nasty behaviour. Something wrong with you if the OP has you demonising the 8 year old on the basis of having spilt a drink. He has literally not done anything else at all. What’s wrong with you ?

Edited

Nothing wrong with me. I can read. You may like to try it, starting with the OP's posts.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 24/05/2025 19:07

blubbyblub · 24/05/2025 19:06

On what basis are you suddenly determining that the boy is anything at all? What a horrible attitude. All the kid has done is be 8 and spill a drink.

the girl is the one who has demonstrated nasty behaviour. Something wrong with you if the OP has you demonising the 8 year old on the basis of having spilt a drink. He has literally not done anything else at all. What’s wrong with you ?

Edited

OP said that the 8 year old isn’t easy, implying he isn’t in fact perfect

TheGrimSmile · 24/05/2025 19:07

Massive overreaction on your part. Also, pulling out of the comp will affect all the dancers/dance school. It would be very selfish to do that.

blubbyblub · 24/05/2025 19:06

Espressosummer · 24/05/2025 18:58

Oh bullshit. That kid has his mummy raising him to be an entitled little Prince. He's not going to have self-esteem issues. His problem will be keeping friends because he's being raised to think he can do whatever he likes with no consequence.
The daughter, on the other hand, very well could seeing as how she is already being treated as the black sheep by her mum.

I'm guessing you don't have siblings if you think being called a freak after destroying something of a sibling's will lead to life long issues.

Edited

On what basis are you suddenly determining that the boy is anything at all? What a horrible attitude. All the kid has done is be 8 and spill a drink.

the girl is the one who has demonstrated nasty behaviour. Something wrong with you if the OP has you demonising the 8 year old on the basis of having spilt a drink. He has literally not done anything else at all. What’s wrong with you ?

Happyhettie · 24/05/2025 19:06

I feel really sorry for your daughter. She’s been training and is excited (‘banging on about it’ aka being enthusiastic) and her outfit has been spoiled.

She shouldn’t be calling her brother a ‘freak’ but I think the “who spoils everything” bit needs unpicking. Does he spoil things regularly for her? Is he treated differently to her? Does she feel (rightly or wrongly) that you prefer him to her?

Cancelling the comp could make her resent him more but she will remember this and could resent you. I know so many adults who feel their sibling is the favoured golden child and often it’s the older child (and female)who is held to very different standards.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 24/05/2025 19:06

I am an adult my DH is an adult and if either of us had accidentally spilled a drink over an important outfit we would probably both react with harsh words. I would have called him a clumsy prick and he would most likely call me a clumsy bitch. Then after a while we would calm down and apologise. It is a natural reaction might not be great but its human nature.

Espressosummer · 24/05/2025 19:06

BrickJoker · 24/05/2025 18:56

I understand she would get angry, but it was an accident and there was no need for her horrible language. Children who are talked down like that by their elder siblings grow up with MH issues. She should apologise.

I wouldn't be so sure it was an accident. And perhaps if her mum actually did something occasionally about his behaviour, that she herself thinks is hard, then perhaps the daughter wouldn't have said what she did. Everyone has their breaking point. Being treated like an adult while your 3 year younger brother gets treated like a toddler ( with the bless him, and little one) will damage the daughter's mental health.
All 3 should be apologising.

GreenCandleWax · 24/05/2025 19:04

MyHouseInThePrairie · 24/05/2025 18:33

But if he is constantly winding her up and breaking things, you need to see things from her point of view.

Sorry but no.
Calling anyone ableist slur like a freak is NEVER acceptable
If he is winding her, he needs to learn to stop (Thars the OP’s and her DP’s job) and she needs to learn to answer back to that wo insult but with boundaries.

But tbh seeing the reaction of this little boy, I doubt that him constantly winding her up what is happening there. He wouldn’t have burst into tears.
He might well have been frightened by her reaction, seeing how he had a sister. constantly going on about her show. And clearky is used to be stroppy (see the Whatever she answered to her mum)

And he might well, just possibly, turned on the waterworks because it always gets his DM on his side! Who knows - we are not being told the whole story.

ClarasSisters · 24/05/2025 19:04

Only ever issue an ultimatum that you're prepared to follow through. If you let her go now you're telling her you don't mean what you say and give her the green light to not change her behaviour. She knows you're a pushover.

Having said that, siblings piss each other off and do dumb stuff. She knows in her heart of hearts her brother didn't do it on purpose and probably would have calmed down after some time alone.

BrickJoker · 24/05/2025 19:04

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Tarantella6 · 24/05/2025 19:04

As a pp said you're not being consistent. Either your 8yo is an adorable tiny child who cannot be expected to control his limbs, in which case she's not much older. Or your dd is plenty old enough to control her emotions, take unfortunate events on the chin, in which case her brother isn't much younger.

Fwiw in this house she wouldn't have had a chance to shout at him because I would have got there first. He's 8, that is old enough to be careful around important things.

Boreded · 24/05/2025 19:03

Also…I would bet my house that the eldest has a different dad to the youngest, the way op talks about her

blubbyblub · 24/05/2025 19:03

DancingDucks · 24/05/2025 18:59

No one said what she said is ok.

That you are comparing the actions of a child to the actions of a grown man is, at best, bizarre. Kinda weird actually.

Not weird at all. This is when we are supposed to be teaching dc not to do this so they don’t turn into the abusive adults people hate on so much.

it’s called parenting.

it’s not ok to be calling people freaks and then showing complete disrespect by rudely answering back and doubling down on the nasty verbal attack.

Sofiewoo · 24/05/2025 19:03

BrickJoker · 24/05/2025 18:57

By that logic he should call her a spoilt, self-centred brat back.

Since when are you spoilt for not wanting your important things to be ruined?
You’ve such a strange outlook.

The girls mother clearly has no interests in her hobbies and can’t really be bothered with her, seems like a long way off spoilt.

Whaleandsnail6 · 24/05/2025 19:02

Your poor daughter.

Imagine you had something that you are excited and likely nervous about...you want everything to be perfect and someone spills a drink all over your top that you needed to wear. ..put yourself on her shoes for 5 minutes! Ok, she shouldn't have spoken to her brother like that but she was likely shocked, upset and angry...they are ok emotions.

You shouldn't use a punishment that you will either have to back down on, or that is way too harsh for the situation.

I'm with your partner. You over reacted

Starrynightwishes · 24/05/2025 19:02

ChangeUserName25 · 24/05/2025 18:57

It will wash out !
He's 8 ! Accidents happen
She was a brat to react like that but it's out of order to cancel her comp

OP will have to spend the rest of her "bloody life glueing gems to a crop top" if she washes it. 😂 It seems it was too much effort to do it once, I can't see her doing it again.

NetZeroZealot · 24/05/2025 19:02

This is very simple.

Both children apologise to each other and then your daughter goes ahead with the dance competition.

AnonWho23 · 24/05/2025 19:01

I'd just tell her ... its okay to be upset and angry that your brother spilt juice on your top. It is not okay to call him names. You need to apologise and think more carefully about your works and how hurtful they are. I would expect her to apologise.

I think canceling her comp is a bit extreme. It will only cause her more resentment and impact her relationship with her brother even more.

BrickJoker · 24/05/2025 19:01

itsgettingweird · 24/05/2025 18:58

Anyone else thinking the brother quite often responds to any dissatisfaction to him with “I’m only 8” as if that’s a fucking pass to behave any old how?!

No, though I can imagine the daughter does.

Boreded · 24/05/2025 19:01

You have two problems here:

  1. you overreacted
  2. you gave a punishment you can’t/wont follow through with

you need to sit down and talk to her, explain that she can’t react like that when she is frustrated and that you could have fixed her problem given a chance. Then tell her she gets a pass on this occasion, but only if she is kind to her sibling and apologises. And that if it happens again you won’t stop her going to dance (as it lets other people down) but you will {insert reasonable punishment here}

GreenCandleWax · 24/05/2025 19:01

latetothefisting · 24/05/2025 18:29

Was going to say this. He's "little one" despite there only being max 3 years, possibly less between them.

Says "Bless him" when he's crying but dd is described as "full meltdown" and "sulking" when she's crying!

She (a young child) is expected to be understanding towards her brother because he "isn't easy" but the moment she "isn't easy" you (a grown adult) can't extend the same courtesy to her?

No punishment for him for damaging her possessions but completely ott punishment for her for shouting at him. I have siblings, no "freak" isn't nice but it's in no way the worst thing we said to each other when we were younger.

Shouting at someone who has damaged something of yours isn't ideal (and you should have got her to calm down and then both apologise to each other) but it isn't a disproportionate reaction particularly if there's a history of him doing similar stuff as you suggest with the comment of him not being easy - cancelling something she's worked hard for add is looking forward to (and is good for her -activity and exercise for girls is a great thing) IS a completely disproportionate reaction to yelling at a sibling.

Edited

Perfectly put, and so true. You should examine your conscience OP and be honest with yourself about your unfair strong preference for DS.

DancingDucks · 24/05/2025 18:59

blubbyblub · 24/05/2025 18:50

She called him a freak. You people are unbelievable. A man calls a woman a bitch and it’s game over. A girl calls her brother a freak and it’s understandable.

That poor kid will probably grow up with self confidence issues with a little madam of a sister like her.

No one said what she said is ok.

That you are comparing the actions of a child to the actions of a grown man is, at best, bizarre. Kinda weird actually.

CapitalAtRisk · 24/05/2025 18:59

Two users witih names beginning with 'b' are clearly trolling the thread. Let's focus on helping the OP and her kids, not fighting them.