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To cancel DD’s dance comp after what she said to her little brother?

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Blondra · 24/05/2025 18:12

Bit of a long one, sorry in advance.

Had a nightmare of an afternoon. Was rushing around trying to get everything sorted for tomorrow, eldest (11, Yr 7) has a dance comp she’s been banging on about for weeks. Spent half my bloody life glueing gems to a crop top she INSISTED she had to have.

Anyway, little one (8) accidentally knocked over a glass of juice and it went all over said top. He was already in tears, bless him, before she absolutely LOST it and called him “a freak who ruins everything” right in front of me.

I told her she was being horrible and she needed to apologise. She rolled her eyes and said “he is though” then stormed upstairs slamming doors.

I was fuming and told her she’s not going to the comp now. Cue full meltdown, crying, saying I’ve ruined her life etc. Now she’s sulking in her room, hasn’t come down since.

Partner thinks I’ve gone too far and should’ve just sent her tomorrow and “had a word” but I’m sick of her attitude and the way she treats her brother. He’s not easy, no, but he’s her sibling and it’s not on.

AIBU to follow through and not let her go? Or have I made it worse now by cancelling it when she’s been looking forward to it for months?

I just want to do the right thing but feel like I can’t win sometimes.

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PoopingAllTheWay · 24/05/2025 19:45

Blondra · 24/05/2025 19:12

Thanks everyone, appreciate the replies.

I know I probably went too far, it’s just been one of those days where everything builds up and I lost my patience. She has worked hard and I know how much it means to her, I just really struggled with how nasty she was in that moment. It wasn’t just the top, it was the way she looked at him and said it, like she hated him.

By “not easy” I mean he can be full on. He’s got some stuff going on, we’re waiting on assessments, and he does get a lot of my time/energy which I think she resents. She’s been quite snappy with him recently and I’ve probably let too much slide.

You’re all right though — taking away the comp would probably just make her feel worse and not actually teach her anything. I’ll speak to her properly, make sure she gets how hurtful that was and that she needs to apologise properly to both of us.

Will find another punishment that actually makes sense and doesn’t hurt something she’s worked for.

Honestly feel like I’m winging it most days, but thanks again.

QUOTE’ He does get a lot of my time/energy which I think she resents. She’s been quite snappy with him recently and I’ve probably let too much slide’

……. You’ve let to much slide???? You need to spend time with her , give her attention.
Not tell her off more

Christ !!!

Penthrowingsurvivor · 24/05/2025 19:45

Blondra · 24/05/2025 19:12

Thanks everyone, appreciate the replies.

I know I probably went too far, it’s just been one of those days where everything builds up and I lost my patience. She has worked hard and I know how much it means to her, I just really struggled with how nasty she was in that moment. It wasn’t just the top, it was the way she looked at him and said it, like she hated him.

By “not easy” I mean he can be full on. He’s got some stuff going on, we’re waiting on assessments, and he does get a lot of my time/energy which I think she resents. She’s been quite snappy with him recently and I’ve probably let too much slide.

You’re all right though — taking away the comp would probably just make her feel worse and not actually teach her anything. I’ll speak to her properly, make sure she gets how hurtful that was and that she needs to apologise properly to both of us.

Will find another punishment that actually makes sense and doesn’t hurt something she’s worked for.

Honestly feel like I’m winging it most days, but thanks again.

what do you want to punish her for?
Poor kid.

it’s just been one of those days where everything builds up and I lost my patience.
...how nasty she was in that moment.

what is YOUR punishment going to be then? She has done nothing worst than you, an adult has done.

You are so unreasonable. Asking her to apologise, and warning her that she needs to stop that attitude is more than enough.

You make it sound like your son is your favourite!

Velmy · 24/05/2025 19:43

I mean the first problem we have here is an 11 year old who 'insists' on anything.

I'd have landed in a different postcode 😅

blubbyblub · 24/05/2025 19:43

GreenCandleWax · 24/05/2025 19:23

Do you have a "golden child" who is a son. too?

Why are you insisting on a golden child scenario. The dd used nasty language and disrespectfully doubled down on it.

She has been increasingly nasty to her younger brother according to the OPs follow up post.

he is only 8 and being assessed for possible ND so being more full on is par for the course but being nasty and disrespectful is not.

why on earth are you so determined to believe there is a golden child situation?

eustoitnow · 24/05/2025 19:42

I feel sorry for her actually. Having a younger sibling who is sapping a lot of your time and energy and then he goes and ruins - accident or not - something important to her. She’s a child she is going to have some very strong emotional (sometimes irrational) feelings about things and people - her brother included. Cut her some slack and accept that to her maybe her brother does ruin a lot of things for her

Fourteenandahalf · 24/05/2025 19:42

Blondra · 24/05/2025 19:12

Thanks everyone, appreciate the replies.

I know I probably went too far, it’s just been one of those days where everything builds up and I lost my patience. She has worked hard and I know how much it means to her, I just really struggled with how nasty she was in that moment. It wasn’t just the top, it was the way she looked at him and said it, like she hated him.

By “not easy” I mean he can be full on. He’s got some stuff going on, we’re waiting on assessments, and he does get a lot of my time/energy which I think she resents. She’s been quite snappy with him recently and I’ve probably let too much slide.

You’re all right though — taking away the comp would probably just make her feel worse and not actually teach her anything. I’ll speak to her properly, make sure she gets how hurtful that was and that she needs to apologise properly to both of us.

Will find another punishment that actually makes sense and doesn’t hurt something she’s worked for.

Honestly feel like I’m winging it most days, but thanks again.

Does she need a punishment ? Or is an apology ok.
Does he need to apologise too because he drank juice too near to her top?

historyismything82 · 24/05/2025 19:42

JudgeBread · 24/05/2025 18:23

She's been "banging on about it" (as you so lovingly put it) for weeks because she's 11 fucking years of age and is excited. Maybe don't enrol your child in something if it's too much trouble for you.

How often is she having to put up with the golden child your son damaging or ruining her things that she said something like that?

Spot on.

GreenCandleWax · 24/05/2025 19:40

Blondra · 24/05/2025 19:12

Thanks everyone, appreciate the replies.

I know I probably went too far, it’s just been one of those days where everything builds up and I lost my patience. She has worked hard and I know how much it means to her, I just really struggled with how nasty she was in that moment. It wasn’t just the top, it was the way she looked at him and said it, like she hated him.

By “not easy” I mean he can be full on. He’s got some stuff going on, we’re waiting on assessments, and he does get a lot of my time/energy which I think she resents. She’s been quite snappy with him recently and I’ve probably let too much slide.

You’re all right though — taking away the comp would probably just make her feel worse and not actually teach her anything. I’ll speak to her properly, make sure she gets how hurtful that was and that she needs to apologise properly to both of us.

Will find another punishment that actually makes sense and doesn’t hurt something she’s worked for.

Honestly feel like I’m winging it most days, but thanks again.

YOU need to apologise too. if she apologises (will he too?), that should be enough. To apply a future punishment is cold-blooded and just wrong. What do you want from her, blood? I note you don't comment on your obvious preference for the golden child DS.

Noshadelamp · 24/05/2025 19:38

Blondra · 24/05/2025 19:12

Thanks everyone, appreciate the replies.

I know I probably went too far, it’s just been one of those days where everything builds up and I lost my patience. She has worked hard and I know how much it means to her, I just really struggled with how nasty she was in that moment. It wasn’t just the top, it was the way she looked at him and said it, like she hated him.

By “not easy” I mean he can be full on. He’s got some stuff going on, we’re waiting on assessments, and he does get a lot of my time/energy which I think she resents. She’s been quite snappy with him recently and I’ve probably let too much slide.

You’re all right though — taking away the comp would probably just make her feel worse and not actually teach her anything. I’ll speak to her properly, make sure she gets how hurtful that was and that she needs to apologise properly to both of us.

Will find another punishment that actually makes sense and doesn’t hurt something she’s worked for.

Honestly feel like I’m winging it most days, but thanks again.

Why are you even wanting to punish your DD for her reaction, when you then also reacted in a similar way?
Also, if you're punishing your dd, why aren't you punishing your ds, he's the one who ruined her top.

When you say you've let things slide I seriously hope you mean allowing your ds's behaviour to affect your dd.

I feel sorry for her, she's expected to not react and just put up with challenging behaviour from her brother.

Try and see things from her pov and stop playing favourites before it's too late.

Ilikeadrink14 · 24/05/2025 19:38

And she will never, never forget that!

Dollshousedolly · 24/05/2025 19:34

Is your DS going to apologise too for spilling the juice?
Are you going to apologise for leaving the top where something could be spilled over it ? Are you going to apologise for your over the top rant at your DD?

How would you feel if, say, the day before your wedding, your sibling had spilt a drink all over your wedding dress? I doubt you’d have simply said, ah bless them!

Have you taken your DD out for a while at any stage and explained to her your DS’s issues and suggest that she might need to have more patience with him ? Have you actively tried to spend time with your DD, given your DS takes up a lot of your time ?

Can you acknowledge that your DD is probably stressed and anxious about this completion ?

When your DD called her brother a freak, you should have re-assured her that you could sort the top, tell her that she is not to speak like that to her brother and asked her to apologise and to stay in her room until she apologised - not ranted at her and banned her from going to the competition.

You’re going to make the situation worse by making her apologise to you both and thinking of an alternative punishment. You’ve sucked the joy out of the competition now for her.

Ilikeadrink14 · 24/05/2025 19:34

JudgeBread · 24/05/2025 18:23

She's been "banging on about it" (as you so lovingly put it) for weeks because she's 11 fucking years of age and is excited. Maybe don't enrol your child in something if it's too much trouble for you.

How often is she having to put up with the golden child your son damaging or ruining her things that she said something like that?

Well said! You don’t need two brains to know who is the favourite here! What IS it about most, not all, mothers and their sons? This mother will never be close to her daughter if she carries on like this. She clearly isn’t now.
The way she spoke so disparagingly about her, and has obviously not gone out of her way to boost her daughter for the Comp, frankly makes me angry. That young girl, instead of being in a golden glow, clearly can’t even be sure her mother will go and see her. If she doesn’t I expect Mum will blame ‘golden balls’ for that. She doesn’t deserve a daughter if it’s too much trouble to do anything for her, even resenting sewing a few sequins on! Give me strength. That little girl should ideally take place in the comp secure in the knowledge that her loving mum has got her back. As it stands, I don’t imagine she thinks mum will even be there.
Years ago, our daughter, then about 6, told us she had been given an instrument to play in the upcoming orchestra recital. She wouldn’t elaborate, but was obviously proud and excited about what she was would be doing. We were perplexed as, to our knowledge, she had never learned an instrument. We turned up on the night, and the concert began. It was an orchestra of many different ages, but we couldn’t see our girl. At the very end, there was a big crescendo from the orchestra, and then an expectant silence. Our daughter popped out from the wings, and proudly gave a very very loud ‘ting’ on her Triangle. We clapped our hands off. The look of pride on our little girl’s face when she saw us beaming at her was tangible. It was a magical moment. Her joy knew no bounds when we treated her to a MacDonalds later!
This mother wants to get a grip! Apart from anything else, she doesn’t know what she’s missing,
Of course the child should enter the competition. The mother should definitely go, but the sad thing is, she doesn’t want to! Why? Because she doesn’t care enough about her little girl. Shame on her!

Calliopespa · 24/05/2025 19:33

Oh HUGELY disproportionate punishment op.

It’s coming across to me as if you favour the “ little one.”

Ok she said something unkind, but surely she can just apologise? He did wreck her top…

sunshine244 · 24/05/2025 19:33

With your update the only person to blame is you. I have neurodivergent kids and one competes in a sport with costumes. They are both impulsive and clumsy and if I left the older child's costume unsupervised there is a high chance something would go wrong. As a parent that would be my fault because I can easily predict what would happen.

I actually think your daughters reaction was proportionate. No - she shouldn't say things like that. But she didn't lash out and she was sensible enough to leave the room before making things worse. She needs to be reminded that words like that aren't acceptable but I think that's all.

I do find it interesting that you haven't given context to how your son had a drink near the costume. I'd be highly suspicious jealous and an 'accident' might be involved.

Fridgetapas · 24/05/2025 19:33

It’s hard for an adult to control their feelings when something that’s so incredibly important to them is destroyed let alone an 11 year old. Whilst what she said wasn’t very nice I think I would understand that it was in the heat of the moment.
Both children need to apologise to each other.

529am · 24/05/2025 19:31

What she said is pretty mild as far as siblings insulting each other goes...

GreenCandleWax · 24/05/2025 19:31

Whaleandsnail6 · 24/05/2025 19:02

Your poor daughter.

Imagine you had something that you are excited and likely nervous about...you want everything to be perfect and someone spills a drink all over your top that you needed to wear. ..put yourself on her shoes for 5 minutes! Ok, she shouldn't have spoken to her brother like that but she was likely shocked, upset and angry...they are ok emotions.

You shouldn't use a punishment that you will either have to back down on, or that is way too harsh for the situation.

I'm with your partner. You over reacted

What's he doing about it? We are not hearing much about any support from him for DD.

Skybluepinky · 24/05/2025 19:31

Of course not, he is 8 and spoiled her top and u allowed him to do so, he should be apologising and punished.

Omeara · 24/05/2025 19:27

Your daughter is 11, she’s still young. Maybe she finds your son difficult too and possibly holds some resentment about how much of your time and attention her gets compared to her.

Maybe she’s at the end of her tether too, her language is unacceptable and she should apologise but I would also think about the insights it’s giving you into her feelings.

AthWat · 24/05/2025 19:27

Who allowed the top to be in a position where it was going to get juice spilled on it? When my kids were that age I basically expected them to spill juice whenever they had juice and acted accordingly.
Obviously if its happened when nobody was around, there's nothing you can do about it. But if an adult has knowingly left the kid with juice and the top in a situation where the spillage is possible, just counting on the fact that it might not get spilt, that adult is to blame for everything. The ruined top, the harsh words from the daughter and the son's upset.

PetiteBlondeDuBoulevardBrune · 24/05/2025 19:27

Honestly feel like I’m winging it most days, but thanks again
Aren’t we all? 😅

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 24/05/2025 19:27

How would you feel as an adult if you had a brand new outfit for a special event and someone annoying spilt juice over it before you even got to wear it?

Her reaction was unacceptable but it honestly sounds like you don’t like her.

She should apologise to her brother and then go to the competition.

LauraP32 · 24/05/2025 19:27

You went way too far OP.

And the 'bless him' - is very telling.

Your daughter had everything reason to be mad. It may have been an accident but it shouldn't have warranted anything other than 'oiw, watch it, we don't talk like that, it was an accident".

The 'bless him' though - when he did indeed ruin her top - just says an awful lot.....he's 8yrs old, not 8mths old. He is not a baby nor a 'little one' and he should be more careful.

outerspacepotato · 24/05/2025 19:27

What about your son's apology to her? She should get one too.

The way you spoke about your daughter in your OP,

"has a dance comp she’s been banging on about for weeks. Spent half my bloody life glueing gems to a crop top she INSISTED she had to have."

Sounds like you resent doing for her and if we pick up on it, I bet she is well aware.

I strongly recommend you read up on the "glass child".

QuaintShaker · 24/05/2025 19:26

I wouldn't punish her at this point, tbh. Namecalling isn't the biggest transgression, particularly in those circumstances, and I think you've inflamed the situation too much to rescue it this time. Have a talk with her and do let her know she reacted badly, and there'll be consequences if she does it again, but you need to de-escalate this time.

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