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To wonder if there's any actual evidence that's trans women are not safe in male loos?

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Evedence · 24/05/2025 17:40

I feel, as a FWR lurker, that I would have seen linked articles to bank up the fact that trans identifying men aren't safe in men's loos, and therefore that's the rational why women should budge up and accept trans identifying men in their spaces.

I'm pretty sure with a quick Google I could fund evident that trans identity men have made women's spaces unsafe (Kate delowski? The one who worked for a charity and made a masturbation video).

So AIBU to wonder what hard evidence there is?

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 24/05/2025 17:53

HangryLikeTheHulk · 24/05/2025 17:50

I think it’s up to the trans person to decide which option is safer for them, depending on the situation, venue, context and risk.

And what about women's options?

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Evedence · 24/05/2025 17:52

It's the fox in chicken coop scenario isn't it?

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MidnightPatrol · 24/05/2025 17:52

I actually think the toilets example is overblown.

It’s not actually about safety for most people - it’s about privacy and dignity. I don’t like sharing toilets with men because they wee everywhere and wee with the door open etc which is gross.

I think it’s used the leading example in ‘trans women are women, what’s the problem’ because:
a) it’s very visible. We will all public toilets with some regularity
b) it’s a distraction for the more significant examples where single sex facilities or services are necessary for women’s dignity (like shared hospital wards or changing rooms).

jeaux90 · 24/05/2025 17:51

IDGAF they are male so belong in Male/Gender neutral spaces. Male violence is not a reason for males being in our spaces.

HangryLikeTheHulk · 24/05/2025 17:50

I think it’s up to the trans person to decide which option is safer for them, depending on the situation, venue, context and risk.

BallerinaRadio · 24/05/2025 17:50

Hey one of these threads again it's been a while!

catlovingdoctor · 24/05/2025 17:49

steff13 · 24/05/2025 17:48

If trans women believe they are unsafe in men's restrooms, then certainly they understand why women believe they are unsafe with biological men in women's restrooms, right?

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steff13 · 24/05/2025 17:48

If trans women believe they are unsafe in men's restrooms, then certainly they understand why women believe they are unsafe with biological men in women's restrooms, right?

Holdonforsummer · 24/05/2025 17:48

Probably as much evidence as there is to say women are unsafe when trans-women use female toilets. I feel sorry for everyone who has got themselves hyped up about this, I really do.

SoThisisMe · 24/05/2025 17:44

I don't think there is, but it doesn't matter. Male on male violence has nothing to do with women.
Not our circus, not our monkeys.
Not our fucking problem
Not giving up my daughter's rights for men who pretend to women.

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