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She died and no one said thank you 🥲

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Summervibes12 · 24/05/2025 00:08

My husbands aunt religiously has sent our children Christmas and birthday presents for the last 19 years. I am an absolute stickler for the children having to contact relatives to thank them.

My daughter’s birthday was 8 weeks ago and my husband’s aunt sent gift as normal. My daughter told me she is the only person she needs to thank as she wanted her Dad to make the call, and she would go on the phone and say thank you and husband would continue the conversation. Elderly lady, bad hearing and no mobile phone.

I reminded them numerous times to do this. She has a terminal illness and I was always reminding him to keep in touch. We don’t live in the same country.

At 4pm he told me his mother had rang to say Aunt was very unwell. I asked him had he rang her post our daughters birthday and he said no. I said that I thought that was really poor form and he was really cross at me. Said it was not the time to bring that up. She had a terminal illness and could make the effort to organise a present for our child and he couldn’t be arsed to thank her.

Over our 23 year marriage I have stepped in the past and rang for him but this just annoys him. So I stopped doing it.

She died tonight. I am just so annoyed at my husband. He thinks I am being unreasonable for bringing this up.

I get he is upset as he really loved her but men have to step up and show it.

YABU - I should have said nothing,
YANBU - I was right to call him out

OP posts:
latetothefisting · 24/05/2025 11:36

amybabysa · 24/05/2025 00:13

I wouldn’t bring it up if he’s struggling with his grief, it’s trivial now. Maybe it’s something to talk about next time he’s given a gift. But now is not the time.

My dad and his family are rubbish at thanking each other. They just don’t keep in touch enough and my dad is a bit shy/ I’m sure he’s on the spectrum like me although I’m a bit more social.

she would’ve known he loved her and was grateful.

Let him get past the funeral, and then talk. Essentially it’s up to him though. Maybe if it happens again with someone elderly you could write a little Thankyou card to them on his behalf. That may shame him into thanking people himself

Edited

she would’ve known he loved her and was grateful.

would she have? if someone didn't bother getting in touch with me at all for months on end despite knowing I was close to death, and gave no acknowledgement to presents for their family's birthdays, I wouldn't feel particularly loved or that they were grateful.

I can see why it might not have been the best time to tell him right after her death but otoh that might be what could shock him into getting his act together. He can't have loved her that much if a phone call a few times a year was too much effort.

GreenCandleWax · 24/05/2025 11:34

Summervibes12 · 24/05/2025 00:43

She has been terminal for a long time, I was shocked she was even capable of sending a present 8 weeks ago and to know she was so unwell and not message just really annoyed me. I have repeatedly asked him had he phoned.

Why did you not ask your daughter why she had not thanked the aunt? When I first read this I assumed the daughter was about six.

Northernparent68 · 24/05/2025 11:33

NeedToChangeName · 24/05/2025 10:26

So many people thinking it's the woman's job to sort this

Misogyny in action

BTW, if my brother's kids didn't thank for a gift, I wouldn't hold my SIL responsible for that

That’s not what people are saying, the OP took responsibility for managing her husbands relationship with his family, that was her choice

GreenCandleWax · 24/05/2025 11:32

PawsAndTails · 24/05/2025 00:47

You have taken ownership of something that is not yours to take ownership of - his relationship with his aunt. Whether he calls or not is all on him.

I used to do this with my DH. Call your parents, it's been ages since you spoke to them. Mistake. It's his responsibility and I'm not social secretary. He's responsible for his relationship, or lack of, with them. Same for your DH and his aunt.

Agreed but the daughter obviously needs guidance on being considerate and polite.

GreenCandleWax · 24/05/2025 11:31

Summervibes12 · 24/05/2025 00:37

I tried that and he would get really cross at me doing that in the past. Said oh I was going to do that today.
I do my family and he does his. If she had a mobile my daughter would have messaged herself.

Why could your daughter not have sent a thank you note or card in all those weeks? That would have meant a lot if aunt was hard of hearing surely?

MumCanIHaveASnackPlease · 24/05/2025 11:29

Why are you trying to make this ladies death about you and your personal grievance with your husband?

this isn’t about you and what you think. The lady is dead, allow people to grieve without giving them more grief.

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2025 11:19

ilovesooty · 24/05/2025 11:14

I don't see why a 17 year old couldn't have written a thank you note and posted it. She's old enough to to have thanked this relative herself. Blaming your husband now is unreasonable.

Same. I thought the entire point of insisting on saying thank you was to teach children to do it themselves.

ilovesooty · 24/05/2025 11:14

Summervibes12 · 24/05/2025 00:37

I tried that and he would get really cross at me doing that in the past. Said oh I was going to do that today.
I do my family and he does his. If she had a mobile my daughter would have messaged herself.

I don't see why a 17 year old couldn't have written a thank you note and posted it. She's old enough to to have thanked this relative herself. Blaming your husband now is unreasonable.

one2one2 · 24/05/2025 11:14

Maybe he didn't like the aunt or care about her or couldn't be bothered. The onus is on him not you.

Then he gets annoyed if you step in.

Sounds like a poor specimen of a man. How can you even look at him?

But he needs to manage his own family relationships not you.

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 24/05/2025 11:13

In my family we do not dwell on a missed thank you, we don't even notice it if we didn't get one as the pleasure is in giving.

You cannot, and should not, control other peoples relationships within their own families. If you dh does not see any need in saying thank you, you don't need to act like his mummy and try to force/teach him to. If you want your dd to say thank you, you arrange for her to able to do it.

Bringing it up as a way to bring him down when the woman has died and he is grieving is a shit thing to do.

You need to reflect on your own behaviour and your tendency to be controlling, not his.

sundaybloodysunday12 · 24/05/2025 11:13

Fairyliz · 24/05/2025 07:16

I think you are getting a hard time on here op.
This is a terminally ill aunt that your husband hasn’t bothered to ring in 8 weeks, so it doesn’t appear that he has a super close relationship with her and will be wallowing in grief.
Sounds like another lazy man who can’t be bothered.

Exactly this.

I suspect a lot of the replies on here are from people who also can’t be arsed to thank people for gifts.

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2025 11:08

amybabysa · 24/05/2025 00:35

You’ll just have to leave him to it, they’re his family. Maybe your 17 year old can write her a really nice thankyou letter/note?

She’s dead!

sundaybloodysunday12 · 24/05/2025 11:06

GravyBoatWars · 24/05/2025 01:15

Yes, why support your partner in times of loss when you can dismiss their grief by instead insisting they must not have really loved the person.

If your response to your spouse hurting over the loss of a family member is to pile on and hope they learn a lesson then you have no business lecturing anyone on kindness or showing people you care.

Oh ffs. A dying woman managed to send a gift. A grown man couldn’t be arsed to lift the phone to say thank you when he knew she was elderly and had a terminal illness.

Oh boo hoo for the grieving man.

Give your head a wobble.

Feetinthegrass · 24/05/2025 10:48

And not because it was your ‘job’ as a woman to call her, it’s not about that, it’s about being kind to a lady that has shown such unfailing love for you all.

I can’t bear it when people say it’s not a ‘woman’s job’ - of course it’s not - it’s entirely up to the man too, but I would have WANTED more contact with such a lovely person. It would not have been a duty for me, but one motivated by love and affection.

Feetinthegrass · 24/05/2025 10:44

I think you are projecting your own guilt here op. I think she was a lovely lady that deserved much more tbh from your dd, dh and you. She has died now, so you can’t do anything op, but you can learn from this and appreciate other loved ones and make time for them.

Anyahyacinth · 24/05/2025 10:37

I'm an Auntie who stopped generous, thought out gifts when the children 18+ because I'd never even get an acknowledgement they'd arrived. Now it's £10 in a card. I understand your thinking but I think you are carrying an emotional load that is your husbands. Maybe the lesson is to consider how many other things you are carrying that are his responsibility and put the load down.

tigerlily9 · 24/05/2025 10:32

WhatterySquash · 24/05/2025 10:18

OP I can see various sides here and agree with some PPs on some points, but I do want to say I know where you're coming from. I think people should be thanked for sending presents and I've always got my two DC to do it - though I help them out by buying cards and writing the details (eg who sent them what, after xmas or a birthday) on a post-it and sticking it in front of them with a pen.

Tbh it's a pain in the arse and I would rather all relatives could just be texted thanks (some can) but I have some older relatives who it's important to, so I do it.

In the case of your H's aunt, it sounds like your H would never have bothered anyway, and his behaviour when she was dying was crap, he should have contacted her anyway IMO, aside from the thank you. My ex was like this, never bothered, couldn't be arsed, he would absolutely have done the same. And while I don't want to be sexist I think there are a lot of relationships where the woman does all this stuff and the man just opts out. It's infuriating and one of the many reasons I eventually lost so much respect for my ex that he is now an ex!

But I also wanted to say I think it's OK to let it go. Think about it, the aunt had many years of sending presents which she probably liked doing, and getting thanks and having contact with her nephew's family that would have meant a lot to her. You did that for her. Ultimately, of course I don't know but I imagine she was probably not obsessing about getting her thanks this time but dealing with her illness and interacting with those closest to her. Overall, you did right by her (though it was your H's responsibility, not yours) and that's what will have made the biggest difference to her - not this one lapse.

There's also a separate issue to do with your relationship with H but I don't think what happened here is the core of the issue. You're possibly annoyed with him and his general attitude and this situation has upset you, but I'd try to take a step back from this one thing. Flowers

I’m really sorry for your loss, and I am sorry that the majority of posters have been rather unkind to you. I think the above comment is the one you should take on board. Yes someone should have said thank-you and you are right to be bothered that, in the end, nobody did, when she made the effort. Yes, she no doubt would have wanted to know it was received safely and appreciated. But it’s too late and you have to all live with that.

It doesn’t reflect well on your husband and what you do next is maybe something to think about after the grieving.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/05/2025 10:30

KnittyNell · 24/05/2025 07:53

Can someone please tell me why it’s deemed to be the husband’s fault and not the daughter’s?
I have read the whole thread and still can’t comprehend it.

Neither can I. The OP doesn’t mention SN so if she ‘struggled’* with phoning she should have sent a card.
*another wildly overused word on MN.

Octoberdreaming · 24/05/2025 10:27

YABVU
Your daughter should have said thank you why are you making excuses for her and not your husband
You could have also called

Octoberdreaming · 24/05/2025 10:27

YABVU
Your daughter should have said thank you why are you baking excuses for her and not your husband
You could have also called

NeedToChangeName · 24/05/2025 10:26

So many people thinking it's the woman's job to sort this

Misogyny in action

BTW, if my brother's kids didn't thank for a gift, I wouldn't hold my SIL responsible for that

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/05/2025 10:21

SipandClean · 24/05/2025 07:27

With respect your children are old enough to write a letter or send a thank you card.

This, absolutely. Just a few words in a card - how hard is that?

WhatterySquash · 24/05/2025 10:18

OP I can see various sides here and agree with some PPs on some points, but I do want to say I know where you're coming from. I think people should be thanked for sending presents and I've always got my two DC to do it - though I help them out by buying cards and writing the details (eg who sent them what, after xmas or a birthday) on a post-it and sticking it in front of them with a pen.

Tbh it's a pain in the arse and I would rather all relatives could just be texted thanks (some can) but I have some older relatives who it's important to, so I do it.

In the case of your H's aunt, it sounds like your H would never have bothered anyway, and his behaviour when she was dying was crap, he should have contacted her anyway IMO, aside from the thank you. My ex was like this, never bothered, couldn't be arsed, he would absolutely have done the same. And while I don't want to be sexist I think there are a lot of relationships where the woman does all this stuff and the man just opts out. It's infuriating and one of the many reasons I eventually lost so much respect for my ex that he is now an ex!

But I also wanted to say I think it's OK to let it go. Think about it, the aunt had many years of sending presents which she probably liked doing, and getting thanks and having contact with her nephew's family that would have meant a lot to her. You did that for her. Ultimately, of course I don't know but I imagine she was probably not obsessing about getting her thanks this time but dealing with her illness and interacting with those closest to her. Overall, you did right by her (though it was your H's responsibility, not yours) and that's what will have made the biggest difference to her - not this one lapse.

There's also a separate issue to do with your relationship with H but I don't think what happened here is the core of the issue. You're possibly annoyed with him and his general attitude and this situation has upset you, but I'd try to take a step back from this one thing. Flowers

amybabysa · 24/05/2025 10:17

Nanny0gg · 24/05/2025 09:39

She's just died!

That's the problem

RTFT I amended this. You’re now the 8th person to point this out.

Oioisavaloy27 · 24/05/2025 10:13

How old is your daughter? Could she not have rung herself? Fwit you chose the completely wrong time to have a go at him.