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Why are so many men perverts?

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Larna4t · 23/05/2025 18:31

I just got sexually harassed by a tarot card reader. The most bizarre place to be sexually harassed! It was at one of those walk in places near a beach

He was looking at the cards, talking about my relationships and he said "it looks like you are single ". I said ""yeah i am i want to be single i don't want a relationship reallly'
He said "oh yeah you can just go out for a few shags that's just as good".
I was taken aback. He said again "you can go out and have a good shag'
I said "no i dont do that".

He then said "did someone just die. " i said "yes my dad'
He said 'i bet you were a naughty girl for your dad. You naughty naughty girl'.

I said "im leaving". What the fuck!

Last week i was at a poetry group. We all wrote and read out a poem. The women all wrote about families , love , beach walks etc.
The man wrote "a funny poem (his words)" about his testicles and sex. No one found it funny.

In my last workplace two of my male colleagues were "joking" about masturbating. I felt a bit sick

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3678194b · 23/05/2025 23:32

Oh I forgot about my friend's BF pinching my breasts on a night out too. Tried to do it in a jokey fashion to make it appear more 'acceptable' :( I wouldn't let anyone get away with that these days.

3678194b · 23/05/2025 23:28

You're fortunate @thetrumanshow .

Yes I've had my breasts groped by a hotel worker who was fixing something in my room. Being a teen I didn't know what to do. I didn't even tell my parents.

I should also add I've had my bum pinched numerous times. In the street by men passing by, in bars.

Doesn't happen anymore but I rarely go out these evenings and it shouldn't happen anyway. No one should be assaulted like that.

ASimpleLampoon · 23/05/2025 23:28

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 19:31

Yes that all happened. Right after i told him he died.

I know it's disgusting. Some men are such creeps

Sounds like the type of thing Jimmy Savile would have said

thetrumanshow · 23/05/2025 23:19

3678194b · 23/05/2025 23:15

Not happened for a while but I used to get regularly groped, breasts felt etc. Being a teen at the time I would just freeze.

Your headline reminded me about some men I've seen on OLD. Married but wanting to hook up for the kind of 'kinky' sex they wouldn't dream of having, or requesting, with their wives. Makes me sad when I see that.

I am not denying that's your experience, but I have NEVER been groped, breast felt! And neither have my sisters or my friends! Who does that!

Screamingabdabz · 23/05/2025 23:19

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 18:36

Women can be just as bad. You're just sexist

Spot the “cool girl” (or a bloke).

🙄

amybabysa · 23/05/2025 23:19

Report to police.

3678194b · 23/05/2025 23:15

Not happened for a while but I used to get regularly groped, breasts felt etc. Being a teen at the time I would just freeze.

Your headline reminded me about some men I've seen on OLD. Married but wanting to hook up for the kind of 'kinky' sex they wouldn't dream of having, or requesting, with their wives. Makes me sad when I see that.

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 23:11

Many men dont care, and in fact enjoy bullying amd hurting women

A male acquaintance said to me once, "men love the power. Of course men are going tp bully those weaker than them (women)

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Panterusblackish · 23/05/2025 23:09

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 18:36

Women can be just as bad. You're just sexist

Don't be so stupid

Picklechicken · 23/05/2025 23:02

ExceedinglyCharacteristic · 23/05/2025 22:56

One man told you this, when he was presenting himself as the Nice Guy Fighting His Base Instincts, and you’ve decided that 50% of the human race is ‘dire’ based n a sample size of one?

But it’s not a sample size of one is it? It’s many women, here and across all types of social media saying the same thing and various news events across the years confirming it to be true.

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 22:59

ExceedinglyCharacteristic · 23/05/2025 22:56

One man told you this, when he was presenting himself as the Nice Guy Fighting His Base Instincts, and you’ve decided that 50% of the human race is ‘dire’ based n a sample size of one?

Did you read her post

No she said its from her lived experience with many different men too

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ExceedinglyCharacteristic · 23/05/2025 22:56

MsJinks · 23/05/2025 22:49

I used to have a male friend - nice guy, worked hard, all about his kids and parents and sister and would help anyone. I had had a few dates with him too which were fun and respectful, huge range of interests he’d discuss. He said once that I really wouldn’t want to know what men really think about mostly - they’re awful beings thinking awful sexual stuff too much if the time - and he included himself in that.
I liked to think that’s not true of a lot of guys, and I have met many apparently genuinely nice fellas who behave on a basic level and don’t seem to obsess about sex or perve. But also I’ve been reminded of what he said a lot over the years tbh with disappointing revelations in one way or another - today, as a bit older now, I’m often less visible to folk, which suits me, but I still get to be disappointed observing normal people being such dicks - sadly.
I think perhaps it’s actually that there are many men who genuinely love their families and/or want to be decent human beings seeing everyone as equal and being respectful, but then there’s that other side that’s just dire in nearly all of them when off their lead. Very disappointing.

One man told you this, when he was presenting himself as the Nice Guy Fighting His Base Instincts, and you’ve decided that 50% of the human race is ‘dire’ based n a sample size of one?

MsJinks · 23/05/2025 22:49

I used to have a male friend - nice guy, worked hard, all about his kids and parents and sister and would help anyone. I had had a few dates with him too which were fun and respectful, huge range of interests he’d discuss. He said once that I really wouldn’t want to know what men really think about mostly - they’re awful beings thinking awful sexual stuff too much if the time - and he included himself in that.
I liked to think that’s not true of a lot of guys, and I have met many apparently genuinely nice fellas who behave on a basic level and don’t seem to obsess about sex or perve. But also I’ve been reminded of what he said a lot over the years tbh with disappointing revelations in one way or another - today, as a bit older now, I’m often less visible to folk, which suits me, but I still get to be disappointed observing normal people being such dicks - sadly.
I think perhaps it’s actually that there are many men who genuinely love their families and/or want to be decent human beings seeing everyone as equal and being respectful, but then there’s that other side that’s just dire in nearly all of them when off their lead. Very disappointing.

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 23/05/2025 22:34

I'm sorry you experienced that.

I once saw a fortune teller at some fete with my mum. The man told me I needed to spice up my sex life and wear sexy underwear- he clearly got off on this.

I was a lot younger then so didn't say much, but I wouldn't let someone get away with it now.

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 22:29

ScholesPanda · 23/05/2025 21:33

Men are definitely pervier than women and of course the stats for sexual assault, rape etc. don't lie. Women don't cat call or kerb crawl either.

The tarot guy is a disgusting pig and you should report him. What a horrible thing to happen to you.

However, in terms of the guys in the office making jokes about wanking, since someone asked for examples:
A woman in my office had an allergic reaction that caused her lips to swell up. When I asked her middle aged female boss if she was ok, she said to the whole team "Yes, just too many blowjobs probably."

We had a twenty year old lad start working for us, two women in their fifties tried to drag me into a conversation about his "lovely" legs and bum, and how "big" I thought he might be.

Another woman I worked with admitted she had yoni eggs inside her whilst sat her desk "in case I wondered why she was making strange faces."

One final example, a woman I worked with made it her aim to sleep with as many of the men in the office as possible, and was particularly happy if they were already married because she didn't want them getting too attached.

Men can be worse but women are far from innocent of low level inappropriateness.

YANBU overall though, so that's how I've voted.

I have to say i dont believe this post.

Why on earth would a woman in a workplace say she had a yoni egg inside her and was gettimg pleasure from it.

She would be instantly fired.

What youve written sounds like a male fantasy.

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ApplesinmyPocket · 23/05/2025 22:25

"Another woman I worked with admitted she had yoni eggs inside her whilst sat her desk "in case I wondered why she was making strange faces."

Not at all made-up, I'm sure.

Actually, it's a typically male fantasy that women like to stuff their vagina with things for constant 'stimulation'.

CloudyPortal · 23/05/2025 22:23

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 18:36

Women can be just as bad. You're just sexist

Really? I find it hard to imagine any woman talking about being a naughty girl for a recently deceased father. Thsts just plain disgusting.

thetrumanshow · 23/05/2025 22:21

Ifpicklesweretickles · 23/05/2025 21:49

That's probably it, isn't. A handful of examples out of your whole life towards men. Whereas some women experience tens a day addressed towards them.

I know some people (a little dim admittedly) who present quite stereotypically masculine or otherwise are intimidating for men to pick on who will say how not all men are. If it's not happening to them it must be not happening.

Also there are some women that hate other women. You must be that.

More likely a pervert of a man yourself.

Edited

that escalated quickly 😂

Also there are some women that hate other women. You must be that.
reading the post you just wrote to me, the only one hating another woman is YOU here.

Mix56 · 23/05/2025 22:07

Yes, I asked my H this evening, having seen 55 french men were arrested in a pedo ring yesterday. “what is it with men that they need to rape & defile children?”
Most of these men would have had a normal home & family, presumably with some sex available.
Not enough apparently.
its just unfathomable

Ifpicklesweretickles · 23/05/2025 21:49

thetrumanshow · 23/05/2025 20:14

Primary school playground
Male teacher
Mums comments about his body, and specifically his butt and things that he could be good at.

I am sure I can remember a lot of other examples!

That's probably it, isn't. A handful of examples out of your whole life towards men. Whereas some women experience tens a day addressed towards them.

I know some people (a little dim admittedly) who present quite stereotypically masculine or otherwise are intimidating for men to pick on who will say how not all men are. If it's not happening to them it must be not happening.

Also there are some women that hate other women. You must be that.

More likely a pervert of a man yourself.

StarDolphins · 23/05/2025 21:45

YellowOrangePink · 23/05/2025 18:36

Women can be just as bad. You're just sexist

That’s not my experience at all. Come on, you’ve really met/heard of as many Percy women as you have men? You just wanted to make it sexiest is my betting.

Cel77 · 23/05/2025 21:42

I'm like you. Men actually scare/disgust me a lot.

ScholesPanda · 23/05/2025 21:33

Men are definitely pervier than women and of course the stats for sexual assault, rape etc. don't lie. Women don't cat call or kerb crawl either.

The tarot guy is a disgusting pig and you should report him. What a horrible thing to happen to you.

However, in terms of the guys in the office making jokes about wanking, since someone asked for examples:
A woman in my office had an allergic reaction that caused her lips to swell up. When I asked her middle aged female boss if she was ok, she said to the whole team "Yes, just too many blowjobs probably."

We had a twenty year old lad start working for us, two women in their fifties tried to drag me into a conversation about his "lovely" legs and bum, and how "big" I thought he might be.

Another woman I worked with admitted she had yoni eggs inside her whilst sat her desk "in case I wondered why she was making strange faces."

One final example, a woman I worked with made it her aim to sleep with as many of the men in the office as possible, and was particularly happy if they were already married because she didn't want them getting too attached.

Men can be worse but women are far from innocent of low level inappropriateness.

YANBU overall though, so that's how I've voted.

Picklechicken · 23/05/2025 20:57

hazelnutvanillalatte · 23/05/2025 20:53

And yes, I don't know why. From a man masturbating through my bedroom window when I was 4, to men 'offering rides' when I was walking to school aged 14, to the man who sat next to me on a plane and then tried to follow me home...of course it's not all, but it's a lot.

I thought this when I was reading about the awful Gisele Pelicot case...that not only was this one man sexually depraved, but he found almost 100 other men who not only condoned the behaviour but took part in it as well.

Yes I thought of that case reading this thread too. So many “normal” (not normal but hey) men prepared to rape a drugged woman. And how many more were engaging in the forums it was arranged through? It’s absolutely disgusting. Men are just led by their dicks. Women do not behave the same way.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 23/05/2025 20:53

And yes, I don't know why. From a man masturbating through my bedroom window when I was 4, to men 'offering rides' when I was walking to school aged 14, to the man who sat next to me on a plane and then tried to follow me home...of course it's not all, but it's a lot.

I thought this when I was reading about the awful Gisele Pelicot case...that not only was this one man sexually depraved, but he found almost 100 other men who not only condoned the behaviour but took part in it as well.