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Why are so many men perverts?

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Larna4t · 23/05/2025 18:31

I just got sexually harassed by a tarot card reader. The most bizarre place to be sexually harassed! It was at one of those walk in places near a beach

He was looking at the cards, talking about my relationships and he said "it looks like you are single ". I said ""yeah i am i want to be single i don't want a relationship reallly'
He said "oh yeah you can just go out for a few shags that's just as good".
I was taken aback. He said again "you can go out and have a good shag'
I said "no i dont do that".

He then said "did someone just die. " i said "yes my dad'
He said 'i bet you were a naughty girl for your dad. You naughty naughty girl'.

I said "im leaving". What the fuck!

Last week i was at a poetry group. We all wrote and read out a poem. The women all wrote about families , love , beach walks etc.
The man wrote "a funny poem (his words)" about his testicles and sex. No one found it funny.

In my last workplace two of my male colleagues were "joking" about masturbating. I felt a bit sick

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RampantIvy · 24/05/2025 10:39

Have you always had cropped hair, no makeup, more masculine clothes? Just trying to think what triggers them into being like this as I assumed it was the same for every woman, and just being near a female makes them feral.

@Disturbia81 I have short, not cropped hair that is styled. I wear very little make up but usually have lipstick and earrings on when I leave the house of I am shopping or going to work. I usually wear jeans or trousers, but wear dresses in warmer weather. I don't look masculine at all.

I am pretty flat chested though and no strange man has ever tried to grab my tiny boobs. I also wear glasses.

So maybe it is the classic glasses and flat chest that keeps me out of trouble?

WaryCrow · 24/05/2025 10:36

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 24/05/2025 10:00

Men are just primates, locked into primate ape dominance patterns, and since neither thought nor intelligence are valued nowadays their animal selves are being unleashed.

That sounds exactly like the kind of language that incels use when talking about women.

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But how many times have how many of them been attacked in the streets, or harassed by groups of women?

Try watching that video I linked.

Disturbia81 · 24/05/2025 10:35

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 10:14

Im 41 and i have a lot of female friends. When we go out to bars, we go home afterwards. No one ever talks about "pulling men for sex". Ever

The single ones may talk about a man theyve met in a hobby group and have started to date.

I believe you 😆 I’m just saying it does happen.

Disturbia81 · 24/05/2025 10:34

thetrumanshow · 24/05/2025 10:12

Have you always had cropped hair, no makeup, more masculine clothes? Just trying to think what triggers them into being like this as I assumed it was the same for every woman, and just being near a female makes them feral.

I look nothing at all like that description, and that's my point, it's REALLY not the same for every woman.

The only unpleasant encounter I have ever had in supermakets are people being too slow or in my way.

That’s good and refreshing to hear 😊

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 10:14

Disturbia81 · 24/05/2025 10:09

Yes to have sex with. It was happening when I was young and still happening now, many women do want no strings sex. Not saying all women at all, just saying it does happen. But not to the level men do it.

Im 41 and i have a lot of female friends. When we go out to bars, we go home afterwards. No one ever talks about "pulling men for sex". Ever

The single ones may talk about a man theyve met in a hobby group and have started to date.

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thetrumanshow · 24/05/2025 10:12

Have you always had cropped hair, no makeup, more masculine clothes? Just trying to think what triggers them into being like this as I assumed it was the same for every woman, and just being near a female makes them feral.

I look nothing at all like that description, and that's my point, it's REALLY not the same for every woman.

The only unpleasant encounter I have ever had in supermakets are people being too slow or in my way.

Disturbia81 · 24/05/2025 10:09

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 10:03

Whats your definition of pull. Because it can mean to find someone to have sex that night with.

If you mean just to go out and flirt and chat with men, yes everyone does that

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Yes to have sex with. It was happening when I was young and still happening now, many women do want no strings sex. Not saying all women at all, just saying it does happen. But not to the level men do it.

RampantIvy · 24/05/2025 10:07

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 09:26

I think the men can also sense weakness and they prey on more vulnerable people.

I had a very abusive childhood and no love at all. So i have low self esteem.

I read an article where a rapist said he always went for women who had low swlf esteem as they were more likely to blame themsleves

Did you have a good loving childhood?

I think you are right and yes, I had a happy and secure childhood with two loving parents.

I have also been happily married for over 40 years and probably look unapproachable because I stride purposefully walk confidently and have an air of "don't mess with me because I won't take any bullshit".

I wasn't always like this. It took many years to feel this confident.

Disturbia81 · 24/05/2025 10:05

RampantIvy · 24/05/2025 09:12

Maybe I have a "don't mess with me face"?

Or maybe it is because of where I live - rural with not great public transport, so I mostly drive. When I get the train I have my head stuck in a book.

Our village streets aren't teeming with people and it is usual to his hello to anyone you walk past whether you know them or not. The only time I come across lots of people is at work, in town or the supermarket.

Those are the places it happens though. Commented whispered in supermarkets and walking along the road, uncomfortable staring, men waiting outside a shop for me to finish so they can say something, as I get older I see more how insidious it is.. we’re just lumps of flesh being hunted.
I have a resting bitch face and sadly it doesn’t put them off
Have you always had cropped hair, no makeup, more masculine clothes? Just trying to think what triggers them into being like this as I assumed it was the same for every woman, and just being near a female makes them feral.

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 10:03

Disturbia81 · 24/05/2025 09:56

I’m on your side on this thread, and hate it when people say women are just as pervy/abusive etc

BUT I do know many women who go out to pull, it’s part of the night out starting from being young and beyond.

Whats your definition of pull. Because it can mean to find someone to have sex that night with.

If you mean just to go out and flirt and chat with men, yes everyone does that

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IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 24/05/2025 10:00

Men are just primates, locked into primate ape dominance patterns, and since neither thought nor intelligence are valued nowadays their animal selves are being unleashed.

That sounds exactly like the kind of language that incels use when talking about women.

ruffler45 · 24/05/2025 09:59

Some men are such creeps

That just about sums it up in a few words. there are some "normal" men still out there.

Disturbia81 · 24/05/2025 09:56

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 09:34

No woman I know, goes out to pull all the time

I’m on your side on this thread, and hate it when people say women are just as pervy/abusive etc

BUT I do know many women who go out to pull, it’s part of the night out starting from being young and beyond.

WaryCrow · 24/05/2025 09:53

RampantIvy · 23/05/2025 23:43

This reminds me of an episode of Red Dwarf where the roles are reversed and it is the women who make all the suggestive remarks.

You’ve reminded me of this video of role reversal. Getting old now but makes the points.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V4UWxlVvT1A&t=8s&pp=2AEIkAIB

Men are just primates, locked into primate ape dominance patterns, and since neither thought nor intelligence are valued nowadays their animal selves are being unleashed.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?pp=2AEIkAIB&t=8s&v=V4UWxlVvT1A

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 09:46

thetrumanshow · 24/05/2025 09:45

But you are not disproving my point

‘Some men don’t see women as human beings’
Clearly, or there wouldn't be any abuse/ rape and pervs in general.

No one is denying this, but it doesn't mean we assume that every man we see is a potential perv, anymore than we assume that every parent we see is potential abuser until proven otherwise.

If I walk past 500 men and ONE man tries to sexually assault me, I will only remember the perv, and might get wary of everyone in case I end up facing another one. It doesn't mean that all 500 men are potential rapists because one is.

But where did anyone on this thread say that we see all men as potential pervs? I didnt say it as the OP. I didnt see anyone else writing it.

We are talking about the men that ARE pervs. No one said ALL men are pervs

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thetrumanshow · 24/05/2025 09:45

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 09:36

Its not me who said men don't see women as human beings. It's men who have said it.

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STEFFON CAMPBELL... a lot of our masculinities are defined by how many women [we have]
ALL WOMAN,HEALTH & FITNESS,ISSUES
July 13, 2020
‘Some men don’t see women as human beings’
WITH intimate partner violence being a harsh part of society, an advocate is opining that a crucial part of the problem is that some men are not socialised to “view women as human beings”.
“[They are] objects to be had,” opined Steffon Campbell, communication specialist and podcast host.

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But you are not disproving my point

‘Some men don’t see women as human beings’
Clearly, or there wouldn't be any abuse/ rape and pervs in general.

No one is denying this, but it doesn't mean we assume that every man we see is a potential perv, anymore than we assume that every parent we see is potential abuser until proven otherwise.

If I walk past 500 men and ONE man tries to sexually assault me, I will only remember the perv, and might get wary of everyone in case I end up facing another one. It doesn't mean that all 500 men are potential rapists because one is.

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 09:36

thetrumanshow · 24/05/2025 09:25

men don't see women as all the way human

that's when I believe this is ridiculous, and untrue.
It's not a case of "not all men" 🙄, it's simply that men are not a different species or by definition and nature litter ally an enemy or a predator. That is nonsense.

NO ONE is pretending there are no pervs. but you could compare with child abuse. No one is denying that child abuse exist, and it's uncomfortable to understand why it even happens in the first place. It doesn't mean that "all parents are potential abusers, because they see children as inferior and not all the way human, but some hide it better than others". It would be exactly the same reasoning.

Its not me who said men don't see women as human beings. It's men who have said it.

tap

STEFFON CAMPBELL... a lot of our masculinities are defined by how many women [we have]
ALL WOMAN,HEALTH & FITNESS,ISSUES
July 13, 2020
‘Some men don’t see women as human beings’
WITH intimate partner violence being a harsh part of society, an advocate is opining that a crucial part of the problem is that some men are not socialised to “view women as human beings”.
“[They are] objects to be had,” opined Steffon Campbell, communication specialist and podcast host.

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Larna4t · 24/05/2025 09:34

blubbyblub · 24/05/2025 09:33

I’ve had women talking about their labias, hot gardeners and feeling so horny they could shag anything.

also women go out to pull all the time.

No woman I know, goes out to pull all the time

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blubbyblub · 24/05/2025 09:33

Larna4t · 23/05/2025 18:48

Are you a man?

No woman has said anyrhing sexual in any hobby that ive been to, or any workplace ive been in

The men have said sexual things

I’ve had women talking about their labias, hot gardeners and feeling so horny they could shag anything.

also women go out to pull all the time.

LoafofSellotape · 24/05/2025 09:30

I have a very don't mess with me attitude and I think men see it as a challenge not a deterrent. Sadly my experience has been the nice guys are few and far between and I've traveled so met lots of people over the years. Male entitlement is alive and kicking.

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 09:26

RampantIvy · 24/05/2025 09:12

Maybe I have a "don't mess with me face"?

Or maybe it is because of where I live - rural with not great public transport, so I mostly drive. When I get the train I have my head stuck in a book.

Our village streets aren't teeming with people and it is usual to his hello to anyone you walk past whether you know them or not. The only time I come across lots of people is at work, in town or the supermarket.

I think the men can also sense weakness and they prey on more vulnerable people.

I had a very abusive childhood and no love at all. So i have low self esteem.

I read an article where a rapist said he always went for women who had low swlf esteem as they were more likely to blame themsleves

Did you have a good loving childhood?

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thetrumanshow · 24/05/2025 09:25

men don't see women as all the way human

that's when I believe this is ridiculous, and untrue.
It's not a case of "not all men" 🙄, it's simply that men are not a different species or by definition and nature litter ally an enemy or a predator. That is nonsense.

NO ONE is pretending there are no pervs. but you could compare with child abuse. No one is denying that child abuse exist, and it's uncomfortable to understand why it even happens in the first place. It doesn't mean that "all parents are potential abusers, because they see children as inferior and not all the way human, but some hide it better than others". It would be exactly the same reasoning.

RampantIvy · 24/05/2025 09:12

Disturbia81 · 24/05/2025 08:53

Sadly age doesn’t stop it, my mum and friends were still getting it in their 70s.
And they said it was even worse decades ago, more catcalling from builders etc and bums pinched in queues, more pervy comments from older men when they were teens etc.
You are lucky

Maybe I have a "don't mess with me face"?

Or maybe it is because of where I live - rural with not great public transport, so I mostly drive. When I get the train I have my head stuck in a book.

Our village streets aren't teeming with people and it is usual to his hello to anyone you walk past whether you know them or not. The only time I come across lots of people is at work, in town or the supermarket.

OneQuirkyPanda · 24/05/2025 09:08

It’s socialisation, they believe they have the right to do so. I’m sure most women have sexual thoughts, but we know it’s not polite or appropriate to repeat them.

Larna4t · 24/05/2025 09:04

I remember a male celebrity once said this.

He said 'women are telling men that they are upset and hurt. But the man doesnt see it at all when she says it. There is a disconnect, because men don't see women as all the way human".

He compared it to slavery. When the slaves would complain thaf they were hurt or upset. It didnt matter at all to their owners, because they didnt see them as human

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