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Husband too defensive of SIL

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birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 14:50

DH and I have been married for about 5 years. Since before we were even married, DH seemed strangely close to his brother's wife. At first I thought nothing of this, until I met her. SIL is the ultimate "mean girl." She is in love with herself, brags about everything, especially things she knows she has that I may not, constantly looking for flattery from both her husband and mine, and since the day I met her pretends I am not in the room. She won't speak to me or eye contact but only talks to the men, like she is holding court with how adorable she is. She is very spoiled. She grew up with money and refused to work a day in her life, even before kids. She is an expert at making little comments and jabs at me that the men are completely oblivious to and then sitting with a satisfied smile while I silently stew. They are literally completely oblivious of everything about her.

DH did nothing but sing her praises from before I even met her, and I kept my opinions about her to myself for the first couple years of our marriage, even when visit after visit, she exhibited this nasty behavior. Less than a week after I found out I was pregnant (and having some early complications), DH jumped on a plane to go support SIL when her father died. Since the day I have met him, he calls her family "his family" and it took years before I got him to understand that her family are his brother's in-laws, and even then he was only able to consider this as a possibility when I asked, "Well, does your brother consider my parents to be HIS family?" His brother expects my husband to drop everything when his wife has some new drama good or bad, but I/we have had our own problems (health scares, pet deaths, etc) over the years and we have never looked to the brother for any sort of sympathy or support, nor would he be bothered to offer it. When we had our first child, DH did not get me flowers but a year later, when his brother's wife had their first baby, he sent her flowers to the hospital. I was furious and at this point, I let my feelings be known. It all came out and caused a huge argument. DH absolutely doesn't see my side of this, thinks so highly of his brother's wife, scoffed when I gave examples of nasty things SIL has said, and refused to even consider the validity of my feelings until I finally said that I refused to spend any more time with this woman. That he can see them on his own.

Now his entire family hates me, because of course, SIL was the original wife and I am the one who shunned their little darling. Her husband adores her and clearly, mine does too! She can do NO wrong in their eyes. DH and I have had a strained marriage in general, and it's so upsetting to me that she is Miss Perfect in his eyes while I am the person he argues with. A large part of the source of our arguments is that he has accused me of having such a problem with his family, when I am simply responding to the way I have been treated by them! I have expressed countless times how excited I was to finally get a sister/SIL, only to feel like I was shunned from day one, but DH views it as me vs his family and by his family, he means his brother's wife, too. I just feel like they made me the outcast and my DH has not helped matters.

OP posts:
CosyLemur · 23/05/2025 17:45

She's a mean girl but here you are slagging off the whole of your DHs family on Mumsnet!

MissDoubleU · 23/05/2025 17:44

I’m afraid you need to leave. He’s not going to untangle from the enmeshment. You and your child come after his brother, his SIL and his mother.

You deserve someone to out you first. Who actually wants to put you first and notices when you’re being ignored or insulted.

thepariscrimefiles · 23/05/2025 17:43

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 17:24

To clarify, I had been in hospital twice in the week I had found out about my pregnancy and doctors were telling me to expect a miscarriage "at any moment." He got on a plane to attend his brother's wife's father's funeral. There would have been hell if he hadn't from his entire family.

There is no cultural dynamic here. I agree that DH must take action for himself, but his entire family has put enormous pressure on him to constantly orbit the brother and SIL's world and it's like they cannot adjust to DH now having his own family. BIL made it extremely clear that DH was not just needed there, but EXPECTED, and that him not showing up would be unforgiveable.

We were also expected to leave our 2 month old baby at home for a weekend to attend the SIL's brother's child-free wedding out of town. DH couldn't understand that we had an infant, etc, because his entire family puts these expectations on him. Again, this wasn't for his family, but for his brother's in-laws.

The relationship with DH and his brother is very one-sided but DH is extremely protective of his brother. When BIL and SIL lost a pet, we sent a card and DH called. When our dog died, not a word. Everything is about BIL and SIL.

I really looked forward to having a relationship with SIL, especially since DH spoke so highly of her. But from the beginning she made it clear how she felt about me. She didn't even bother to come to my hen night. They were in town so the guys could go out the same weekend and SIL chose to sit in the hotel by herself saying she was tired. I didn't make a fuss and DH and BIL didn't care. I suspect if the situation were reversed, the entire family would be thinking the worst of me. My BIL certainly would have been outraged.

The whole family sound awful, including your DH. His behaviour would repulse me. He puts his birth family first above his own wife and child. He left you possibly miscarrying his child to fly to attend his brother's father-in-laws funeral? I wouldn't have been able to forgive that.

Did you leave your two month old baby to attend SIL's brother's wedding or did you put your foot down?

cheddercherry · 23/05/2025 17:43

I don’t know why you didn’t run for the hills at the start of all this? Personally I wouldn’t spend a lifetime of being made to feel insignificant by my own husband, never mind his crazy family.

rainingsnoring · 23/05/2025 17:41

Just to be clear, I meant leave him and therefore leave them all to their strange behaviours.

rainingsnoring · 23/05/2025 17:40

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 17:24

To clarify, I had been in hospital twice in the week I had found out about my pregnancy and doctors were telling me to expect a miscarriage "at any moment." He got on a plane to attend his brother's wife's father's funeral. There would have been hell if he hadn't from his entire family.

There is no cultural dynamic here. I agree that DH must take action for himself, but his entire family has put enormous pressure on him to constantly orbit the brother and SIL's world and it's like they cannot adjust to DH now having his own family. BIL made it extremely clear that DH was not just needed there, but EXPECTED, and that him not showing up would be unforgiveable.

We were also expected to leave our 2 month old baby at home for a weekend to attend the SIL's brother's child-free wedding out of town. DH couldn't understand that we had an infant, etc, because his entire family puts these expectations on him. Again, this wasn't for his family, but for his brother's in-laws.

The relationship with DH and his brother is very one-sided but DH is extremely protective of his brother. When BIL and SIL lost a pet, we sent a card and DH called. When our dog died, not a word. Everything is about BIL and SIL.

I really looked forward to having a relationship with SIL, especially since DH spoke so highly of her. But from the beginning she made it clear how she felt about me. She didn't even bother to come to my hen night. They were in town so the guys could go out the same weekend and SIL chose to sit in the hotel by herself saying she was tired. I didn't make a fuss and DH and BIL didn't care. I suspect if the situation were reversed, the entire family would be thinking the worst of me. My BIL certainly would have been outraged.

This gets worse with every post.

To those who assumed that the pregnancy complications were minor, clearly they weren't.

Sadly for you @birdsfeather, your DH cares for your SIL far more than he cares for you. He is utterly enmeshed in this unhealthy family dynamic too. I don't think you have a lot of good options here. You could try to persuade him to have some couples therapy with a really good therapist but, ultimately, you may well just need to leave them to it.

BotterMon · 23/05/2025 17:38

Voted YABU as you married a man who prioritised another family whilst ignoring multiple red flags.

Your DH isn't going to change so you can either suck it up or leave him.

outerspacepotato · 23/05/2025 17:33

It's pretty obvious your husband prioritizes SIL over you and his family encourages it. The time you've spent with him is sunk cost and you'd be better off splitting up than living with someone who will never ever put you first. You're like a low tier sister wife and your SIL calls the shots. This dynamic is not going to change. Your marriage is a sham.

Get a job if you don't have one and get a lawyer consult and line up your ducks.

BunnyLake · 23/05/2025 17:29

He bought her flowers when she had a baby and didn't get you any when you had a baby? Wow, that is shocking! To be honest OP I wouldn’t stay with a man who is behaving like a love sick teenager over his brother’s wife. It’s humiliating and very disrespectful towards you.

Just read your last update. This marriage in untenable because he will always put his family and their expectations before you, regardless of the sil. They sound an entitled, domineering nightmare.

Dangermoo · 23/05/2025 17:28

Your DH needs to grow some balls but won't happen. He's living his life through his family.

GarlicPile · 23/05/2025 17:25

You can't force someone to love you, @birdsfeather. Painfully, this is where you're at: your husband's in love with someone else. On top of that, he's enmeshed with his mother - who also loves this someone else more than you.

I keep deleting suggestions of snarky little games you could play, because they would ultimately be pointless. (You might want to start referring to DH, SIL & BIL as "The Throuple" anyway, just for the hell of it.) Your only real choices are to divorce or accept a role as Number Two.

How are you fixed financially?

birdsfeather · 23/05/2025 17:24

To clarify, I had been in hospital twice in the week I had found out about my pregnancy and doctors were telling me to expect a miscarriage "at any moment." He got on a plane to attend his brother's wife's father's funeral. There would have been hell if he hadn't from his entire family.

There is no cultural dynamic here. I agree that DH must take action for himself, but his entire family has put enormous pressure on him to constantly orbit the brother and SIL's world and it's like they cannot adjust to DH now having his own family. BIL made it extremely clear that DH was not just needed there, but EXPECTED, and that him not showing up would be unforgiveable.

We were also expected to leave our 2 month old baby at home for a weekend to attend the SIL's brother's child-free wedding out of town. DH couldn't understand that we had an infant, etc, because his entire family puts these expectations on him. Again, this wasn't for his family, but for his brother's in-laws.

The relationship with DH and his brother is very one-sided but DH is extremely protective of his brother. When BIL and SIL lost a pet, we sent a card and DH called. When our dog died, not a word. Everything is about BIL and SIL.

I really looked forward to having a relationship with SIL, especially since DH spoke so highly of her. But from the beginning she made it clear how she felt about me. She didn't even bother to come to my hen night. They were in town so the guys could go out the same weekend and SIL chose to sit in the hotel by herself saying she was tired. I didn't make a fuss and DH and BIL didn't care. I suspect if the situation were reversed, the entire family would be thinking the worst of me. My BIL certainly would have been outraged.

OP posts:
steff13 · 23/05/2025 17:22

Afreshone · 23/05/2025 14:54

Since before we were even married, DH seemed strangely close to his brother's wife.

and you thought… “yep, this is the man I want to marry and spend my life with”

I mean Op, you knew about this before you married. A little odd to crack on nonetheless

Yeah, I cosign this. He was like that before you got married did you expect him to change?

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 23/05/2025 17:21

Fuck the lot of them. You said your marriage is rocky, this situation is going to make it worse. You are married to a cunt struck fool who is deluded enough to think he is part of this golden circle he imagines surrounds this woman. Spouses should have your back-he doesn’t.

category12 · 23/05/2025 17:20

I have told him many times I think he is in love with her, and he just resorts back to the usual argument of me not being able to accept or love "his family."

If you believe that, why in earth are you with him and having kids with him?

Your self-esteem must be through the floor to stick it out with someone who prefers and loves someone else.

Do yourself a favour and find the dignity to leave the relationship.

rainingsnoring · 23/05/2025 17:15

tigerlily9 · 23/05/2025 17:06

I agree this is key. How are you treated as a family unit by your husband’s side of the family. Who do you go to for support. What is his relationship like with your family? Do his parents get on with your parents?

Edited

This is all in the OP's posts. They don't like her and don't treat her well from her own account in said posts.

Cattenberg · 23/05/2025 17:13

Her personality aside, she has endless dramas big and small, and each time, brother and/or MIL calls my DH who is expected to abandon his own family (me and DC) to rush to the side of his brother's wife. The few times DH has pushed back, they give him hell.

I don't think this is normal at all. But ultimately it's your H who's the problem, because if he had your back, it wouldn't matter too much how SIL and the in-laws behaved.

You could try couples' counselling. There's a chance it would help your H to realise that his family dynamic is rather odd and dysfunctional and his own priorities are wrong. Or, you could cut your losses and move on.

HerNeighbourTotoro · 23/05/2025 17:11

nonmerci99 · 23/05/2025 15:54

Hmm. It sounds like your DH has known his SIL for a long time and loves her like family. Without some better examples, I’m not seeing evidence that he’s in love with her.

I think you are well within your rights to not want to see her or spend time with her, and I think it’s fair to tell your DH this. What I’m not sensing from your posts is if you are actually in love with your own DH yourself? Do you want to be with him? If you do, I think you’ll need to accept that she is his family… and unless she’s done something unforgivable to you, I can’t see how you can force him to shun her. Personally I think that would be pretty messed up on your part.

OP gave quite a few clear examples of it, but even worse, she provided many that her husband does neithe rlove her nor sees her as family despite being her husband.

RockOrAHardplace · 23/05/2025 17:11

tigerlily9 · 23/05/2025 17:03

If she’s been 10 years in the family, maybe he also knows the father in law and rest of the family?

Edited

And he may well know his brothers FIL, I know my brother and sisters PIL, we see each other at family gatherings, but they are not MY immediate family.

I will concede that occasionally you may develop a strong relationship, as in my own Mum is now best friends with my sisters MIL and when sisters FIL died we discreetly gave support where needed but the expectation is that the IMMEDIATE family are the gatekeepers to that.

LikeARacoonOnMeth · 23/05/2025 17:06

I'd want my husband to be there for his brothers family when an immediate family member passed away.

Thats really not usual, unless you live in a small village, and you’ve all been friends and / or neighbours for years.

tigerlily9 · 23/05/2025 17:06

Theunamedcat · 23/05/2025 16:05

How does she react to your child?

Did your bil send you flowers after you gave birth?

I agree this is key. How are you treated as a family unit by your husband’s side of the family. Who do you go to for support. What is his relationship like with your family? Do his parents get on with your parents?

rainingsnoring · 23/05/2025 17:05

tigerlily9 · 23/05/2025 17:03

If she’s been 10 years in the family, maybe he also knows the father in law and rest of the family?

Edited

Knowing his brother's in laws isn't a reason to neglect his own wife.

tigerlily9 · 23/05/2025 17:03

RockOrAHardplace · 23/05/2025 16:56

Sorry but I don't think its normal at all as my brothers FIL is not my immediate family. I would offer my condolences and if care was needed with looking after kids whilst arrangements were made, we (me and my spouse) would support them, but no, I wouldn't get on a plane if my brothers Father in Law died even if my wife wasn't pregnant. In fact I would say that's intrusive as SIL needs time to grieve and its for her husband to console her, not her BIL. That's just WEIRD. I'd be freaked by that too.

If you you give your SIL flowers for birthing a child then you surely give your wife some when she gives birth. Double standards other wise.

Edited

If she’s been 10 years in the family, maybe he also knows the father in law and rest of the family?

Spacehop · 23/05/2025 17:02

ioveelephants · 23/05/2025 16:08

I think you sound jealous. My family see my husband as family we’ve been together a long time and if my sisters new husband started slagging him off im sure she would stick up for my husband aswell. You’re basically saying you hate her because your husband likes her. 😂

Would your sister drop everything in her and her DH's life if your DH lost his dad and fly to see him? Would your parents ring to update your DSis about events in your DH's life but ignore similar events in your BiL's? Would your sister hang on your DH's every word and ignore her own DH? If so your dynamic is similarly weird.

JLou08 · 23/05/2025 17:02

Worryabouteverything · 23/05/2025 15:00

@AyeDeadOn yes it nice that he sent flowers but have you missed the point that he didn't send his OWN WIFE flowers when she had his child.

I wouldn't expect flowers from my DH after giving birth, it is our baby. We buy gifts for others who have a baby but not each other.

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