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Is it me, or are these friends exploiting us?

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JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 23/05/2025 14:24

Posted before about this couple who sold their house and wanted to stay in our place whilst we were away on holiday.

We’ve been friends for several years. Great company, charming people, but incredibly disorganised and unable to prioritise their life - not our problem, except they have a habit of offloading their crises onto those around them. Everything is always left to the last minute and I don’t know how they do it, but they manage to get a freebie off someone or get everyone running around after them, whether it’s a friend of a friend offering holiday accommodation, a cheap decorator or last minute dog sitter etc etc. For example, DH ended up doing an exceptionally long airport run for them recently because they didn’t want to take their car, the more convenient local airport didn’t fly on a day that suited them (it was to another freebie overseas apartment) and the lift was presented to him as, “are you still ok to take us to……” which he felt obliged to do as he said he honestly couldn’t remember agreeing to, but felt he couldn’t let them down! No offer of petrol etc, just bought DH a coffee and a cake.

They sold their house, have made a nice profit, now cash buyers and looking to downsize, but they have have not planned where they were going to live, refuse to pay for a short term rental and are essentially sofa surfing until they find somewhere to buy. They’ve dropped great big hints suggesting they could stay with us for around a month whilst they search as we “have the room” as clearly they have outstayed their welcome the other friends they have been staying with. We do have the space, and there is no reason why I should say no, but I’m beginning to feel a bit of a mug.

AIBU to say no as it’s only a month and we’ve been friends for a long time, or is not unreasonable to say no, they need to make their own arrangements?

OP posts:
Butchyrestingface · 23/05/2025 15:26

They were even wondering if estate agents offered empty houses free for short term occupancy - as if?!

Suggest home guardianship to them. They'll still need to pay, like. But it's cheaper than market rent.

Oh, and mind and count the teaspoons after their next visit.

ParmaVioletTea · 23/05/2025 15:23

In your situation @JohnPrescottsPyjamas I would be airily unaware & completely but politely obtuse about any hints they're dropping.

If they ask straight out, say you're sorry, but you can't do it.

A weekend would be OK, but a whole month? I've had people stay for that length of time, and longer, to help them out, but it's been very much on a sharing house basis - they do their own cooking etc. I tell them, I will be living my life, and they'll have to flex around me. I do not "host" in the way I would for visitors I've invited ie cooking meals, catering, going out & about with visitors etc.

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 23/05/2025 15:23

Please come back and update on what they say when you say no!

and when they say “oh but why not, we’ll be no bother etc etc whine waffle whinge beg” (because they will) you have so many answers …

“we don’t want to”
”the favour bank ran dry after the airport run”
”ha, we’re not that daft, that would wreck the friendship pretty fast”
”we don’t want to”
”everyone else in this situation would pay for short term accommodation, why can’t you”
”i hear what you’re saying and the answer is no”
“we don’t want to”

MoreChocPls · 23/05/2025 15:23

They arent friends. They are CFs who think your both mugs and idiots.

prelovedusername · 23/05/2025 15:22

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 23/05/2025 15:15

Thank you all - I really appreciate your replies as it reinforces my suspicion that they’re cheekily freeloading and it’s not me being inflexible or unreasonable!

I suggested an AirBnB as a short term solution and it was met with horror. “We don’t want to pay £2500 for a month! Especially when we could stay for free with you” They were even wondering if estate agents offered empty houses free for short term occupancy - as if?!

They are currently on a freebie holiday in the Med staying in the apartment of a friend of a friend - this is how they seem to operate - and the solicitor handling their house move is an old school friend they’ve managed to get a favourable deal through. I wish I had the brass neck and cheek to pull in favours like they do, but I just couldn’t do it to anyone.

This is how BIL and SIL operate, they travel widely in Europe, always “looking after a friend’s home”. Never reciprocate though.

Loopytiles · 23/05/2025 15:21

You and your H sound like you have been and remain easy targets for these CFs.

Don’t make suggestions about options or engage with their problems: ‘oh dear’. If they ask directly for you to subsidise them in any way say no: no explanation needed.

Butchyrestingface · 23/05/2025 15:20

They will never leave. They will move in, run the leccy bill sky high, eat you out of house and home, leave dirty dishes everywhere then probably end with a flourish by smothering you in your sleep and feasting on your remains.

But hey, at least they're 'charming'.

Just. Say. No.

timestressed · 23/05/2025 15:19

What a great idea! We are putting that room on Airbnb next week. To make it all stress free you can book it when it goes online. Why? It is tied up with our house insurance.

Imabitbusyatthemoment · 23/05/2025 15:18

A month?! Do you know how long it takes to buy a house? You will have them for the best part of a year.

Do not do this!

prelovedusername · 23/05/2025 15:18

You have to be very plain with CFs. Just say “Sorry, absolutely not, don’t like houseguests, we find it too intrusive and we’d be at each others’ throats inside a week”. Laugh if you like but hold that line and do not give an inch.

They sound quite calculating actually. Be careful they don’t invite themselves for an overnight stay and then linger. I’d keep them at a distance till they’ve actually moved.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 23/05/2025 15:17

EveryOtherNameTaken · 23/05/2025 15:02

Pretend you can't pick up the hints.

And if they don't stop dropping them
just reply with "lord, no way would we let anyone stop at ours for more than it takes to have a meal and drink, would hate to have people staying over"

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/05/2025 15:17

Ugh. Nope.

The fact that they don't want to use any of the cash sitting in their bank account to pay rent is not your problem.

If you let them move in for a month they will still be there a year later.

murasaki · 23/05/2025 15:17

I'm not normally an advocate of blocking people, but I'd make an exception in this case.

PerkingFaintly · 23/05/2025 15:16

I think I'd actually laugh in their faces at the accommodation hinting.

"Haha, full marks for brass neck – God loves a tryer, eh? Anyway, about that drink you were going to buy me...

BangaloreLulu · 23/05/2025 15:15

They're not friends. They're leeches. They will stick around until they have had their "fill" from you and then move on to take advantage of the kindness and generosity of others, repeated ad infinitum.

I can very easily imagine you giving them house room and finding your lives being manipulated endlessly to maximise the benefit to them at your own comfort and expense, and I don't know why you would consider risking that.

If they've made a tidy sum on their house sale, then leave them to spend some of it on accommodating themselves from the get-go! Where's the incentive to actually buy somewhere if you can endlessly abuse friendships and scrounge off others, getting freebies constantly? They've behaved like this because they can, because others let them. Don't be like those others!

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 23/05/2025 15:15

Thank you all - I really appreciate your replies as it reinforces my suspicion that they’re cheekily freeloading and it’s not me being inflexible or unreasonable!

I suggested an AirBnB as a short term solution and it was met with horror. “We don’t want to pay £2500 for a month! Especially when we could stay for free with you” They were even wondering if estate agents offered empty houses free for short term occupancy - as if?!

They are currently on a freebie holiday in the Med staying in the apartment of a friend of a friend - this is how they seem to operate - and the solicitor handling their house move is an old school friend they’ve managed to get a favourable deal through. I wish I had the brass neck and cheek to pull in favours like they do, but I just couldn’t do it to anyone.

OP posts:
PerkingFaintly · 23/05/2025 15:14

MmeChoufleur · 23/05/2025 14:45

“Sorry no, I can’t stand having people stay for more than a day or two, you’re best getting an AirBnb. Oh and by the way, you still owe DH £X for the petrol money to the airport and back”.

They’re being CFs because you’re being a doormat too kind. Once you assert yourself they’ll find someone else to go and leech off.

Oooh yes, this.

It's astonishingly effective, I have discovered.

LillyPJ · 23/05/2025 15:13

ThatLimeCat · 23/05/2025 14:57

They are give an inch take a mile people, I'm concerned you'll have them in the house for months. Ignore the hints, if they ask explicitly be prepared with a no and a solid excuse. They seem like people you'll need an excuse with.

No one needs an excuse to turn down unwanted guests! And people who won't accept a plain 'No' are definitely not people you'd want as guests.

BIossomtoes · 23/05/2025 15:13

I’d say yes, tell them what the going rate for Airbnb is and tell them I wanted a month’s payment upfront. You won’t see them for dust.

Stepfordian · 23/05/2025 15:13

Surely the correct answer to ‘are you still ok to drive us to the airport?’ Is ‘I think you’ve got me confused with someone else, I’m not driving you to the airport’ and if they persist it’s ’I’m busy that day/time’ if they ask what you’re busy doing ‘why do you want to know? I’ve said I’m busy, I was being polite, I don’t want to take you to the airport’

If they outright ask to stay with you then a ‘no, I’m afraid that’s not possible’ if they push it then ‘I’ve said no, please don’t push it because I don’t want to fall out with you.’

You have to be harsh/less polite with these type of people because they don’t respond the way normal people do and they’ll walk all over you if you let them.

Endofyear · 23/05/2025 15:12

People can only exploit you if you let them. Just say no, that won't work for us. No excuses or explanations. They can rent an Airbnb!

Gundogday · 23/05/2025 15:10

They’ll only exploit you if you let them. Don’t let them stay. If they made a profit, they can rent/air BnB somewhere.

NagathaCrispy · 23/05/2025 15:10

It takes longer than month to buy a house. They will be with you till Christmas! Just say no.

lifeonmars100 · 23/05/2025 15:09

on the one hand I quite admire their thick skinned gall, on the other I thnk they are horrendously rude piss takers

BakelikeBertha · 23/05/2025 15:08

MmeChoufleur · 23/05/2025 14:45

“Sorry no, I can’t stand having people stay for more than a day or two, you’re best getting an AirBnb. Oh and by the way, you still owe DH £X for the petrol money to the airport and back”.

They’re being CFs because you’re being a doormat too kind. Once you assert yourself they’ll find someone else to go and leech off.

Use this one OP, it really works! Will stop them in their tracks, and you might (although I doubt it) even get some petrol money out of them, although doubtless they won't have been to the bank, so be prepared with 'Oh, don't worry, I'll give you our bank details, you can pay it straight in then'.