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Needed the toilet while shopping with pram… was I unreasonable?

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feelingbaddd · 22/05/2025 16:22

I was out shopping with my baby earlier today and I feel really bad about a split second decision that I made. I needed the toilet and it was one in a coffee shop where 3 individual toilet cubicles were behind a door with a keypad, so toilet use was customer only. I have been using this coffee shop for 2 years. I am a regular customer and used to get a coffee most days on my commute to work pre mat leave and would chat to the manager every day.

She followed me to the toilet today to unlock the door with the code, and then told me apologetically that the disabled toilet was out of order. I wouldn’t have been able to fit the buggy in the normal cubicle that was available. She offered to wait right outside the toilet with the pram (ie behind the main door, but outside the cubicle). I immediately said yes and thanked her and went to the toilet. At the time I thought nothing of it. I know she has a son of her own and always seems friendly. I could hear her chatting away to my baby the whole time but I have reflected on this since and feel like it was such a poor judgement call. Sure I talk to the woman but I don’t KNOW her personally.

I don’t know where my sense of safety was and I feel so terrible about it, I basically left my child with a stranger! Would anyone else have done the same or was it as bad of me as I am thinking it was?

I might be being dramatic, I am really sleep deprived. I can’t help feeling like a bad mum.

YABU - I wouldn’t have done this
YANBU - nothing wrong with this, forget about it!

OP posts:
IndianaIndiana · 22/05/2025 19:07

I was at a play centre place with my then 2 year old and I really needed a wee. It was quite far down a corridor and I didn't want to put his shoes on, squish into the tiny cubicle with him etc. I asked 2 mums who were there with their children if they'd watch him for 2 mins and it was fine. It was a 1 room place, if it had had different rooms etc I wouldn't have done it.

I understand how you feel, I questioned myself afterwards but knew it was fine. You can use common sense and risk assess in these situations.

Lifeofryan · 22/05/2025 19:05

I , personally, wouldn't have done that. Only because if something can go wrong, FOR ME it bloody well will. So I try my best to minimise the risk of things going wrong for me. I would have taken the baby out of the pram and take the baby with me. I have had to do this and it wasn't easy. However, the overwhleming majority on here have confirmed that what you did was fine, so I wouldn't sweat about it. As it has been proven, the odds are your baby will be fine in the circumstances you described.

lesooper · 22/05/2025 19:05

It's normal around here to just leave a buggy with a baby in it outside a standard cubicle door, it's not seen as necessary to ask anyone to keep an eye on the baby for the minute or two you're in there. You'll see the buggy wheels under the door so no one is going to wheel the baby away, and you can chat/sing to baby so they know you're there.

Overthebow · 22/05/2025 19:01

You weren’t unreasonable if you were comfortable with it. I personally wouldn’t have done but I get anxious about these things.

Fourteenandahalf · 22/05/2025 19:01

I asked a table of older ladies to look after my tiny new son once, when I needed the loo. This is what women do. It was safe.

Snorlaxo · 22/05/2025 19:01

You did the right thing. Same as if your child (in future) became lost, asking for help from the staff is the answer.

user1476613140 · 22/05/2025 19:00

Splash and dash scenario this....honestly you didn't do anything wrong. It was a few minutes!

SwedishEdith · 22/05/2025 18:59

A mother handed me her tiny baby to hold on a plane once as she was desperate for the loo. It was lovely.

commonsense61 · 22/05/2025 18:53

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emsyj37 · 22/05/2025 18:53

Generally speaking, it is pretty safe to trust women in situations like this. That's why it is common to teach young children that if they get lost, the safest person to approach for help is a woman.
I was once in a busy shopping centre and saw a woman with a tiny baby in a lie-flat pram and a toddler - the toddler ran from her and went off up an escalator! I approached her and said 'I'll mind the pram while you go after him' - and she dashed off immediately to retrieve the toddler, leaving me (a total stranger) with her new baby. What else was she supposed to do? Sometimes you have to trust a stranger when you need help, and the risk you took was vanishingly small. I wouldn't have thought twice about doing the same.

Agapornis · 22/05/2025 18:47

I used to work at a visitor attraction and supervised lots prams with babies for a couple of minutes. Staff are hands down the safest people to ask his from - they're at work so very unlikely to run off!

ThatLilacTiger · 22/05/2025 18:44

I did a similar thing when my first was a baby and felt similarly shit about it. It was an older woman with her daughter and baby granddaughters at a baby class so it seemed 'safe' but I was so worried the whole time and still cringe thinking about it sometimes. I don't think either of us should feel guilty but I understand why you do.

Coffeeishot · 22/05/2025 18:42

EleanorReally · 22/05/2025 18:40

we went on a ride at butlins as a lady said she would look after my dd, i took my handbag!

Leave the baby take the handbag 😀

PorgyandBess · 22/05/2025 18:41

Really? She wasn’t going to abduct your baby. You’re being a bit nuts.

EleanorReally · 22/05/2025 18:40

we went on a ride at butlins as a lady said she would look after my dd, i took my handbag!

ERthree · 22/05/2025 18:36

You are over thinking this. People help each other, this lady helped you. That is all there is to it. Be gentle on yourself x

Fusedspur · 22/05/2025 18:35

I voted the wrong way - of course it’s not unreasonable!

I had to wee and had my twins with me in Marks and Spencer and the buggy wouldn’t even go near the door where the toilets were, so I asked some ladies on the till if they could just keep an eye on them. I took longer than expected and came out to find LOADS of Nan types all cooing over them and one of them sitting on a chair bashing the buttons on the till! They said “can you do the same time next week when we are all on again?” 😍

SleepyRic · 22/05/2025 18:32

This sounds like a completely safe appropriate decision to have made. I really can't imagine anyone saying or thinking this wasn't an inappropriate thing to do.

samarrange · 22/05/2025 18:30

If I wanted to steal a baby, I would get a job in a large hospital. I would not run a café and hope that at some point in the next 20 years a mother would leave her baby with me for 3 minutes, so I could steal it, rush home in the middle of my shift, and hope nobody noticed.

CoolPlayer · 22/05/2025 18:29

Nothing wrong with what you did at all! in that moment you’re instincts would have told you /known all was fine it’s just you’re mind over thinking things now x

Whoarethoseguys · 22/05/2025 18:29

Most people would have done exactly the same.
There isn't danger around every corner.
You left a staff member to watch your baby for a couple.of minutes at the most. She was in a public place and perfectly safe
I think tiredness and hormones may have got the better of you.
Try and relax a little and be kinder to yourself

EdithBond · 22/05/2025 18:28

It takes a village to raise a child. You knew where she worked.

You could hear her talking to your baby, which is probably why she did it: to reassure you she and the baby were still there.

RedRiverHog · 22/05/2025 18:25

Hope you feel reassured by these responses op.
Just today I went to the toilet in a cafe and both toilets were occupied. The toilets are down a corridor and out of sight from the cafe.

As I waited a small boy came up and clearly needed a wee so I let him go first when the toilets opened.
But he didn't lock the door and I didn't want anyone walking in on him so I waited until he came out.
My point is that I don't have or want kids but most woman would care about the welfare of a child.

CustardySergeant · 22/05/2025 18:25

Candlesandmatches · 22/05/2025 18:25

I voted wrong. What you did was totally ok.

You can change your vote. Just click on the other option.

Coffeeishot · 22/05/2025 18:25

JudgeJ · 22/05/2025 18:18

We were on a long flight and a mother came to the back of the plane with her small baby who clearly needed a nappy change and a 3 or 4 year old who was adamant she didn't want the loo, the mother was saying she couldn't stay in her seat alone, I offered to let her sit with us and watch the TV which she happily did and the mother was very grateful although she was keen on rejoining her mother as OH was doing his grandchildren-entertaining funny faces for her!

Oh no not the "dad faces" 😀

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