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Needed the toilet while shopping with pram… was I unreasonable?

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feelingbaddd · 22/05/2025 16:22

I was out shopping with my baby earlier today and I feel really bad about a split second decision that I made. I needed the toilet and it was one in a coffee shop where 3 individual toilet cubicles were behind a door with a keypad, so toilet use was customer only. I have been using this coffee shop for 2 years. I am a regular customer and used to get a coffee most days on my commute to work pre mat leave and would chat to the manager every day.

She followed me to the toilet today to unlock the door with the code, and then told me apologetically that the disabled toilet was out of order. I wouldn’t have been able to fit the buggy in the normal cubicle that was available. She offered to wait right outside the toilet with the pram (ie behind the main door, but outside the cubicle). I immediately said yes and thanked her and went to the toilet. At the time I thought nothing of it. I know she has a son of her own and always seems friendly. I could hear her chatting away to my baby the whole time but I have reflected on this since and feel like it was such a poor judgement call. Sure I talk to the woman but I don’t KNOW her personally.

I don’t know where my sense of safety was and I feel so terrible about it, I basically left my child with a stranger! Would anyone else have done the same or was it as bad of me as I am thinking it was?

I might be being dramatic, I am really sleep deprived. I can’t help feeling like a bad mum.

YABU - I wouldn’t have done this
YANBU - nothing wrong with this, forget about it!

OP posts:
MissAmbrosia · 22/05/2025 20:02

Though I didn't hand her over....I do remember in Italy once, a waitress literally seized her and took her to see the tropical fish/ lobsters and introduced her to all the regulars. I was a bit bemused but not anxious.

MissAmbrosia · 22/05/2025 20:00

I took dd to Leeds on the train when she was 4 months old. All the people in the seats around me did big sighs when they spotted there was a baby. She was obviously so lovely and well behaved that an hour in they were all offering to sneak a cuddle hold her if I needed the loo.

Emonade · 22/05/2025 19:56

feelingbaddd · 22/05/2025 16:24

I didn’t even hesitate though, which is not like me. I just feel horrendous.

You’re knackered we do mad things when we’re sleep deprived, also it isnt a complete stranger you have been going there for ages and know she works there and stuff, but maybe next time sit baby on your knee while you pee?

WonderingWanda · 22/05/2025 19:48

My Mum used to leave me outside shops in my pram so I think whet you did was fine.

Zanatdy · 22/05/2025 19:45

I have 3 children and wouldn’t have hesitated to do the same.

babyproblems · 22/05/2025 19:43

I’d have done the same. It’s tragic that today you can’t trust a stranger to Watch your child for 2 minutes! I don’t mean you personally op i mean society in general!

PickANumber · 22/05/2025 19:42

imagine that moment that she runs if with your baby and you run after her knickers round you ankle. Likelihood of it happening

Musclewoman · 22/05/2025 19:36

Aww you're fine OP, but I totally relate to the feeling, motherhood can be a constant guilt trip! You needed a wee and the nice lady watched your baby, no harm done so don't overthink this. We don't stop being human the second we become mums 💐

Saying that I still feel guilty for leaving my baby son on a couch in a beauty salon whilst I got my eyebrows done! What if he'd fallen off?! (He didn't!) This was 20 years ago and I still get upset about it today....arrrrggh 😕

jjeoreo · 22/05/2025 19:34

You didn't hesitate because your instincts were correct. I beat myself up for past decisions, almost trolling myself. It's especially cruel because the decision is done so there's nothing you can do. I've recognised it as an unhealthy learned behaviour which peaks during times of anxiety. Which you may be at the moment?

Galatine · 22/05/2025 19:32

Unless you had reason to believe that she was an axe murderer pretending to be a member of staff, you are really overthinking this. What harm could a helpful woman possibly be thinking of doing to your baby in a busy coffee shop. You need better sense of perspective.

FlibbertyGibbitt · 22/05/2025 19:29

If it makes you feel any better Op, when I had my eldest I had to have my 6 week check at the hospital I gave birth at. Went along with new baby, midwife took me to see the dr and said “ oh dr so and so would love to see him” and waltzed off with him while I was legs akimbo.

It was ok though as they brought him back. Think I’d be aghast at this happening nowadays !

LauraP32 · 22/05/2025 19:22

It was fine and I've done similar.

Gsyllama · 22/05/2025 19:20

Absolutely ok to accept help, just remember and help someone else out too. Everyone is far too scared of strangers nowadays and it damages the whole community. I had to leave my 9 month old with a random (kind, but totally unknown) mum in a soft play once when I suddenly got ill and had to run to be sick. Now I have 2 and sometimes there's no way to all fit in a cubicle (when a toddler needs the loo you have to go) so the baby gets parked outside the cubicle

viques · 22/05/2025 19:20

Justwant2sit · 22/05/2025 18:01

Defo Ok in my book.

Also I’m sure when my kids were little there was some advice to tell kids that if they needed help go to “a person that you can trust” for help/if lost... not just to say to find a mummy with children as that’s not always possible in some places.

the advice was to go to a bank police/fire station etc and I always said I thought a person you could trust was a person who could use the till (on the basis that they were trusted with all the cash so probably - if lost in Tesco or a museum etc the cash desk/till was a good place to go in an emergency).

Emergencies are never ideally timed but you found a person who you could trust and knew !! - the manager in charge. It wasn’t a stranger : it was a trusted person.

The chances of finding an open bank or police station makes this advice redundant. On the other hand coffee shops are opening at a rate of knots!

Fuzzypinetree · 22/05/2025 19:19

We're in Europe and there doesn't seem to be this level of fretting about kidnappings. It's highly unlikely anyone would steal my children while I go to the loo. You didn't hand your baby over to a completely random person.
I was in an Indian takeaway the other day (first time, shopping centre in a major city) and the lady behind the counter asked whether she could hold my baby. DD will hold her arms out to be held by anyone and the lady just carried her around the place and showed her to other customers. (She's a cutie.) I could eat a few bites of my food in peace...(I could see her, though.)
DS's old swimming instructor also frequently carries her around the place while I pop to the loo. (DS has a new instructor now because he's moved groups but his old one is still around sometimes and is lovely with little people. He used to do my aquanatal sessions.)

Moglet4 · 22/05/2025 19:16

Done the same thing before a couple of times. We all have. Don’t stress

TheOnlyAletheia · 22/05/2025 19:15

I wouldn’t worry about it. I was asked once by a stranger whilst sitting in a cafe to look after her baby whilst she went to the library 😂

dijonketchup · 22/05/2025 19:14

feelingbaddd · 22/05/2025 16:24

I didn’t even hesitate though, which is not like me. I just feel horrendous.

You didn’t hesitate because you made an instant judgement call with your gut, and you were right to do so. Don’t stress

SummerySunshine8 · 22/05/2025 19:14

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 22/05/2025 19:12

Your fine op.
I left my 1 week old in mackays in his pram and went wandering up the street. It must have been a good couple of minutes before I had a feeling that I had forgotten something 🙄
He's 27 now no harm done 😂

Likely a joke but my husbands dad did similar. Left him outside the corner shop when using a cash machine. Got halfway home before he realised. DH has no recollection of it and is normal...ish.

Themagicclaw · 22/05/2025 19:14

I have done exactly this before! Similar friendly relationship with cafe worker. My son smiled and gurgled at her for the 30 seconds it took me to pee. Honestly all I thought was "oh they're so nice in here". This was not some random stranger xx

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 22/05/2025 19:12

Your fine op.
I left my 1 week old in mackays in his pram and went wandering up the street. It must have been a good couple of minutes before I had a feeling that I had forgotten something 🙄
He's 27 now no harm done 😂

SummerySunshine8 · 22/05/2025 19:11

I once left my 5 month old with the self checkout lady because I had to use the bathroom and the disabled/baby changing facilities were out of order.

Didn't think twice about it.

ButterCrackers · 22/05/2025 19:10

This was very kind. Completely normal. I’ve kept an eye on pushchairs and prams whilst the mum has gone to the loo or gone to order something from the counter. If it’s a worry then get a baby sling This requires some manoeuvring to have the sling on as you go to the loo - equally you can hold your baby in an arm and sort of on your lap. I managed this as I didn’t often use a pram/pushchair.

ChampagneLassie · 22/05/2025 19:09

i thought you were going to say something totally different. Asking a seemingly competent adult to watch your baby for a couple of mins is totally normal. You’ve done nothing wrong. Please do trust others with your baby, most people are fine, they aren’t opportunistic baby thrives lurking everywhere

dollyblue01 · 22/05/2025 19:08

I thought you were going to say you left the baby alone , it’s fine she works there and you know here abit and presumably it’s was a few minutes , don’t stress x

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