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Needed the toilet while shopping with pram… was I unreasonable?

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feelingbaddd · 22/05/2025 16:22

I was out shopping with my baby earlier today and I feel really bad about a split second decision that I made. I needed the toilet and it was one in a coffee shop where 3 individual toilet cubicles were behind a door with a keypad, so toilet use was customer only. I have been using this coffee shop for 2 years. I am a regular customer and used to get a coffee most days on my commute to work pre mat leave and would chat to the manager every day.

She followed me to the toilet today to unlock the door with the code, and then told me apologetically that the disabled toilet was out of order. I wouldn’t have been able to fit the buggy in the normal cubicle that was available. She offered to wait right outside the toilet with the pram (ie behind the main door, but outside the cubicle). I immediately said yes and thanked her and went to the toilet. At the time I thought nothing of it. I know she has a son of her own and always seems friendly. I could hear her chatting away to my baby the whole time but I have reflected on this since and feel like it was such a poor judgement call. Sure I talk to the woman but I don’t KNOW her personally.

I don’t know where my sense of safety was and I feel so terrible about it, I basically left my child with a stranger! Would anyone else have done the same or was it as bad of me as I am thinking it was?

I might be being dramatic, I am really sleep deprived. I can’t help feeling like a bad mum.

YABU - I wouldn’t have done this
YANBU - nothing wrong with this, forget about it!

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CurlewKate · 23/05/2025 07:45

It’s so sad that we think like this- the risk in this situation is really non existent. I remember a lovely lady walking up and down the aisle of a trans-Atlantic flight for ages with my dd who wouldn’t be put down. I realised half way through the flight that she was Nanette Newman (one for the older posters there!) It was 25 years ago, and I still remember her with gratitude..

NewsdeskJC · 23/05/2025 07:24

@FlibbertyGibbitt reminds me of going to an appt in the heart clinic for me when dd3 was 6 weeks old. It was full of very old people and me. The nurses swooped on DD and carried her round to meet the entire department. Made a lovely change for them!

OutandAboutMum1821 · 23/05/2025 06:18

You’ve done nothing wrong. You could hear them the whole time. The vast majority of people are good and like to help.

Natsku · 23/05/2025 05:32

SwedishEdith · 22/05/2025 18:59

A mother handed me her tiny baby to hold on a plane once as she was desperate for the loo. It was lovely.

Someone did the same when I was travelling on the national express, but as a hungover student being handed a crying baby was less lovely Grin

Thing was, we hadn't even left the station yet so I could have easily walked off with her baby. I must have looked trustworthy!

NattyTurtle59 · 23/05/2025 00:12

It's fine. I was a receptionist, and minded lots of babies for people while they did something else.

BlackGarlicTonkotsuWith3ExtraHalfEggs · 22/05/2025 23:44

Honestly I think the problem here is that the disabled toilet was out of order. A shame for disabled people.

JudgeJ · 22/05/2025 23:27

MissAmbrosia · 22/05/2025 20:02

Though I didn't hand her over....I do remember in Italy once, a waitress literally seized her and took her to see the tropical fish/ lobsters and introduced her to all the regulars. I was a bit bemused but not anxious.

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We stayed in a small apartment complex in Italy when our 2 were small and the older one, about 4, used to disappear into the back room if we went into the games area when it rained and would be found playing with the owners' children.

NewGoldFox · 22/05/2025 23:26

It takes a village.

JudgeJ · 22/05/2025 23:22

Mossstitch · 22/05/2025 23:10

I offered to keep an eye on a toddler in a shopping trolley in the supermarket queue the other day as his mother had just remembered something she needed. He looked a little solemn so to chat to him i said which eye should i keep on you then...........he hesitated, thought very carefully and replied 'both of them'.......made me laugh, told his mum when she came back and she said to be fair with him he needs both👀🤣

I once sat a friend's 18 month old in my trolley when her older child was tired but I then forgot she was there, it was BC, I went through the checkout and was packing to one side, wondering what was wrong with that yelling child. Then I realised, she still speaks to me after almost 50 years!

JudgeJ · 22/05/2025 23:18

Coffeeishot · 22/05/2025 18:25

Oh no not the "dad faces" 😀

Oh yes. he had a great repertoire, twist his ear and put his tongue out was a favourite!

Renabrook · 22/05/2025 23:15

ExtraOnions · 22/05/2025 16:25

A member of staff kept an eye on your baby whilst you used the toilet, and you feel guilty about it ?

You need to chill out.

This sums it up perfectly

Mossstitch · 22/05/2025 23:10

I offered to keep an eye on a toddler in a shopping trolley in the supermarket queue the other day as his mother had just remembered something she needed. He looked a little solemn so to chat to him i said which eye should i keep on you then...........he hesitated, thought very carefully and replied 'both of them'.......made me laugh, told his mum when she came back and she said to be fair with him he needs both👀🤣

Newname7 · 22/05/2025 23:05

When I take my baby swimming I often ask any other lady I can find to hold my baby whilst I go for a wee…better than baby sitting on the toilet floor! Don’t think twice about it

MissFancyDay · 22/05/2025 23:01

You have done what countless thousands of mothers have done, myself included. I have also been asked many times to keep an eye on a child for a short time. It's perfectly normal.

CheeseyOnionPie · 22/05/2025 22:55

Do not stress over this. It’s nothing. Time was that people could ask an acquaintance to do exactly this and would return the favour too.

I remember being little and a stranger holding my baby brother for my mum while she got the pram collapsed down to take it on the bus!

It’s what community is for and you do know her, she’s the gal from the coffee shop. In other countries this would be considered wholly normal and a complete non event.

tortiecat · 22/05/2025 22:52

I do understand because you feel so protective over your baby but this wasn’t a random stranger - you’d seen her regularly, you know where she works. Also she is a mum herself (fine to leave your baby with someone who is not a parent too, but this is additional reassurance) and you could hear her. Using the loo is a basic need and you’d have only been gone for couple of minutes.

LucyMonth · 22/05/2025 21:11

Realistically what do you think could have happened? She’s the manager of the coffee shop. She not going to run out of the shop with your baby and leg it down the road. Yes she’s a “stranger” but not a “random stranger”.

UnderTheCover · 22/05/2025 21:02

You exercised good judgement- definitely the right thing to do. She wasn't a stranger.

Ilikeadrink14 · 22/05/2025 20:41

Galatine · 22/05/2025 19:32

Unless you had reason to believe that she was an axe murderer pretending to be a member of staff, you are really overthinking this. What harm could a helpful woman possibly be thinking of doing to your baby in a busy coffee shop. You need better sense of perspective.

Be gentle! We all have a wobble now and again, and don’t need a reprimand from a complete (and rather unsympathetic) stranger!

CoffeeCatsandBooks · 22/05/2025 20:35

I worked in restaurants through my late teens/early 20s… if one of my regulars came in with their kids, and they needed the toilet i would stay with their kids!. We are not strangers. Sometimes you see staff/regulars more than extended family. When my kids were babies, if I was in a place that i regularly visited and needed the toilet I wouldnt have given it a second thought.

dont let mums guilt eat you up!

Ilikeadrink14 · 22/05/2025 20:33

cranberryshortcake · 22/05/2025 16:37

People leave their children in the care of strangers all the time.

You made a practical decision to take a tiny risk. She was very unlikely to be offering just to steal your baby. You could hear her outside the door so were actually monitoring the whereabouts of your baby continuously anyway. If at any point the sound had stopped you could have opened the door and rushed out.

You made a reasonable decision.

Absolutely! You didn’t leave your baby with a complete stranger. In effect, after all this time, you knew her. Where do you think she could have gone if she had stolen your baby? She is the manager! If she had taken the baby, the staff would have known her address etc.
I am a great-grandmother and have been very hands-on with all my four grandchildren. My great-grandchild is new born, but I shall be hands-on with him too, as soon as I can be. Your fear is understandable, particularly in this day and age, but you did the right thing, asking someone you are familiar and friendly with to mind the baby. If you had asked a random member of the public to do the same, I might have had a bit of a wobble but you didn’t. If it’s any help, in your position, I would have done exactly the same.
Please don’t give it another thought. You sound like a caring, risk-aware and capable mother. Just relax a little, and carry on using your common sense as you obviously are doing. And most of all, enjoy your baby!

TeenagersDontWearCoats · 22/05/2025 20:28

I had to run into a coffee shop with DC1 when he was potty training, didn't have time to find someone to open the barrier to get the buggy through. Saw a table of obviously over retirement age ladies having a morning coffee and asked them to watch DC2 - left with a table of complete strangers 😮still can't quite believe I did that! At least you vaguely knew who you left your baby with!

ThatOliveHedgehog · 22/05/2025 20:28

100% fine. We have to take tiny calculated risks with our children sometimes. I have a baby and a two year old - I’ve had to ask strangers and people I barely know to hold my baby when my son has desperately needed the toilet or whatever!

Chloe793 · 22/05/2025 20:19

I think you just need to focus on the fact that your baby is absolutely fine!

Nominative · 22/05/2025 20:08

feelingbaddd · 22/05/2025 16:24

I didn’t even hesitate though, which is not like me. I just feel horrendous.

You had no reason to hesitate. You were leaving your child with someone you know, and she was within earshot at all times. You did nothing wrong.

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