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Child Benefit Rival Claim Ex Partner Earning Loads!!!!! part 2

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ProlongedAffair · 22/05/2025 14:44

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5294980-child-benefit-rival-claim-ex-partner-earning-loads?reply=144269354

I can’t write on the previous thread anymore, so I’ve created this one for people interested in the outcome of the CMS case. I’m committed to telling people what the outcome is regardless of whether it goes my way or not.

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Me and my ex share 50/50 of our two children, it’s not court ordered but has been in place for the past few years. A few months ago I put in a claim f...

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ARichtGoodDram · 06/09/2025 21:53

Ok. But literally what would I gain by giving him the child benefits and not fighting him for it?? He’ll just open another child maintenance case against me. I may as well just battle him for it and hope they keep the second child’s award with me!

You'll not waste a load of energy, everyone's time (including the staff paid by the tax payer to judge your claims) and can move forward focussed on your children?

You cannot win this when the facts are that your children spend more time with him.

Are you even remotely sorry that you started this shitshow?

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 06/09/2025 21:53

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 21:49

Ok. But literally what would I gain by giving him the child benefits and not fighting him for it?? He’ll just open another child maintenance case against me. I may as well just battle him for it and hope they keep the second child’s award with me!

But they won’t, because he has the children more

🤦‍♀️ are you not listening to anyone?!!!

ARichtGoodDram · 06/09/2025 21:52

Thanks, exactly my point, there’s no point withdrawing my application or just giving him the child benefits! The best I can hope for is I get to keep the youngest benefit so I need to at least push back on it and challenge his claim.

You cannot challenge his claim though. Not without lying.

At least if you stop now you can apologise and hopefully redeem your relationship with your children. Something that you don't seem overly worried about.

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 21:49

bumbaloo · 06/09/2025 21:36

The ONLY REASON he went after one CB is because you got greedy and wanted more of his money. The only way he could protect himself was to ensure he was deemed to be 50:50 by claiming one CB. He didn’t do it for the money or to spite you. He did it BECAUSE it was the only thing he could do to legitimise the FACT that he does 50:50. Well more actually.

and no. He isn’t behaving amicably is because when he was you leapt in and tried to grab more and stopped being amicable.

YOU caused this. Everything going wrong for you now is YOUR fault.

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Ok. But literally what would I gain by giving him the child benefits and not fighting him for it?? He’ll just open another child maintenance case against me. I may as well just battle him for it and hope they keep the second child’s award with me!

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Butchyrestingface · 06/09/2025 21:43

If anything, I think OP's ex needs to join Mumsnet.

There are a lot of women on here who could probably benefit from his insights about how to resist manipulation or taking any shite from greedy ex-partners.

bumbaloo · 06/09/2025 21:40

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 10:12

I have been the main carer for years with him being a weekend dad, swanning off on holiday, building his career and all the rest of it. Kids are registered with me and I always took them to ever appointment, did everything with school until recently where they did 50/50 time but I still did more admin. Yes the kids have been staying more recently with him but before that I did basically everything, so to have my benefits taken that I’ve had for years and for him to stop paying maintenance I feel is wrong. Of course the kids already know about a lot of this, how could they not? My ex has effectively manipulated my eldest so they want to live with him.

But all that time when you had then more, he paid. And you got the CB.

Now that he has them 50:50 things must change. You seem to think that because you used to have them more you should forever be paid what you were paid then. That’s such messed up thinking.

that’s like saying ‘I used to work full time and got paid for it. Now I’m part time but because I used to get a full time wage I think it’s unfair I don’t now’ 🫤

bumbaloo · 06/09/2025 21:36

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 21:20

Thanks, exactly my point, there’s no point withdrawing my application or just giving him the child benefits! The best I can hope for is I get to keep the youngest benefit so I need to at least push back on it and challenge his claim.

The ONLY REASON he went after one CB is because you got greedy and wanted more of his money. The only way he could protect himself was to ensure he was deemed to be 50:50 by claiming one CB. He didn’t do it for the money or to spite you. He did it BECAUSE it was the only thing he could do to legitimise the FACT that he does 50:50. Well more actually.

and no. He isn’t behaving amicably is because when he was you leapt in and tried to grab more and stopped being amicable.

YOU caused this. Everything going wrong for you now is YOUR fault.

user1473878824 · 06/09/2025 21:35

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 21:20

Thanks, exactly my point, there’s no point withdrawing my application or just giving him the child benefits! The best I can hope for is I get to keep the youngest benefit so I need to at least push back on it and challenge his claim.

Fucking HELL.

bumbaloo · 06/09/2025 21:33

ProlongedAffair · 05/09/2025 14:28

But there’s no court order in place so it’ll only be him saying he’s had our youngest more so why would he be automatically believed?

You expected to be automatically believed when you told CMS that you were doing more.

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 06/09/2025 21:25

@ProlongedAffair why, given that you do not have the children more than your ex, do you think you stand any chance of being given the child benefit for your youngest?! Previous posters have explained time and again that whoever had the child/ren more (even if it is only 1 night a month) would get it… you will not be allocated the money for your youngest just because you consider you ex to o my have them ‘slightly’ more than you do. All they will look at is the numbers, and the numbers say you have them less. You would be much better off putting your energy in to the time you have with your children, instead of trying to get as much money as you can from their father/child benefit

CunningLinguist2 · 06/09/2025 21:24

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 21:01

People who keep saying I need to try to get myself out of this situation

That is NOT what they’re saying! They’re telling you to STOP!

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 21:20

ThisOldThang · 06/09/2025 21:03

@ProlongedAffair

Thanks for continuing to post in this thread. I've found it to be very interesting.

I do agree that you might as well continue this to conclusion. You've already lost the voluntary payments, one child benefit and the official CMS. You're going to lose the other child benefit and potentially have to pay him CMS if you sit back and do nothing.

With that being said, I don't think you've got much chance of winning.

Your best bet is to work on your relationship with the kids, get it back to true 50:50 and then resubmit a claim for one child benefit. I think that's the best you can hope for at this stage.

Thanks, exactly my point, there’s no point withdrawing my application or just giving him the child benefits! The best I can hope for is I get to keep the youngest benefit so I need to at least push back on it and challenge his claim.

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ThisOldThang · 06/09/2025 21:03

@ProlongedAffair

Thanks for continuing to post in this thread. I've found it to be very interesting.

I do agree that you might as well continue this to conclusion. You've already lost the voluntary payments, one child benefit and the official CMS. You're going to lose the other child benefit and potentially have to pay him CMS if you sit back and do nothing.

With that being said, I don't think you've got much chance of winning.

Your best bet is to work on your relationship with the kids, get it back to true 50:50 and then resubmit a claim for one child benefit. I think that's the best you can hope for at this stage.

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 21:01

CunningLinguist2 · 06/09/2025 20:48

WHO/WHAT are you answering?

People who keep saying I need to try to get myself out of this situation

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AaBbCcD · 06/09/2025 20:55

Op, maybe start redirecting all this effort into getting a job, or a better paid job. You are coming across as very grabby and just need to focus on sorting out your own finances, relying only on yourself. Stop looking for ways to lie/fiddle things to your benefit

BettysRoasties · 06/09/2025 20:50

I think op needs to spend some time with grippy socks. Because she’s making zero sense logically.

CunningLinguist2 · 06/09/2025 20:48

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 20:37

There’s literally no point because my ex has made it clear he will not be talking to me anymore, so there’s no point me sending him a message and there are several court cases, tribunals, claims and all sorts going on.

the best I can hope for is I get to keep the child benefit for the youngest child.

WHO/WHAT are you answering?

CunningLinguist2 · 06/09/2025 20:47

I know we can’t do a TAAT, but can we do a wee poll within the thread?
”thumbs up” this if you (too) think the OP is off her rocker on this & her ex sounds like a fucking saint!

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 06/09/2025 20:44

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 20:37

There’s literally no point because my ex has made it clear he will not be talking to me anymore, so there’s no point me sending him a message and there are several court cases, tribunals, claims and all sorts going on.

the best I can hope for is I get to keep the child benefit for the youngest child.

Surely the ‘best you can hope for’ is to spend quality time with your children and work back to 50/50 custody again? You haven’t once said anything about being upset at losing time with them, only the money you are missing out on…

If this thread is anything to go by, I’m really not surprised your ex-husband won’t talk to you anymore, it’s like banging your head against a brick wall

BettysRoasties · 06/09/2025 20:40

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 20:37

There’s literally no point because my ex has made it clear he will not be talking to me anymore, so there’s no point me sending him a message and there are several court cases, tribunals, claims and all sorts going on.

the best I can hope for is I get to keep the child benefit for the youngest child.

No the best you can hope for is to have a relationship with your children still, currently that’s going down the pan.

From your own posts you are not entitled to CB or maintenance.

user1473878824 · 06/09/2025 20:37

ProlongedAffair · 05/09/2025 22:21

I’ll send the information off they’ve requested and see what they come back with

Can you imagine what it’s like having a conversation with her in person

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 20:37

CunningLinguist2 · 06/09/2025 20:30

I am soooo confused. I think…
is OP taking any advice given onboard? Thinking at all of her kids? Or just grubby grabby? It’s baffling!

There’s literally no point because my ex has made it clear he will not be talking to me anymore, so there’s no point me sending him a message and there are several court cases, tribunals, claims and all sorts going on.

the best I can hope for is I get to keep the child benefit for the youngest child.

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CunningLinguist2 · 06/09/2025 20:30

I am soooo confused. I think…
is OP taking any advice given onboard? Thinking at all of her kids? Or just grubby grabby? It’s baffling!

BettysRoasties · 06/09/2025 20:04

A slight split is still a split even though it isn’t slight. They don’t care what happened before they just want factual figures.

If dad has the boys 18 nights and you have them 13 then dad gets the money it’s really that simple. Cms isn’t there to do you a favour or be nice or be kind. It’s who had the most over nights. They are the main parent. Done.

You are still being too pig headed over money that you can’t or refuse to see you are pushing your children away from some senseless view that you deserve something you are not entitled too.

InterIgnis · 06/09/2025 19:58

ProlongedAffair · 06/09/2025 19:29

hes already got a maintenance case open for the eldest child, I’ve not paid anything, he’s said he doesn’t want any money. He can’t get any of the benefit money either. If I lose the benefit money then I’ll just have to cope but I’m still hopeful that because it’s only a slight split in his favour they may keep it with me.

Yes, because hoping has worked out brilliantly for you so far. He wouldn’t have opened a maintenance case if he didn’t want money. That you (stupidly) haven’t paid anything will cost you in arrears that I do not doubt he will pursue.

It isn’t a ‘slight split’, no matter how much you want to gaslight yourself into believing that. He has both of them for a solid majority of the time.

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