Child Benefit Rival Claim Ex Partner Earning Loads!!!!! part 2

Is anything ever your fault?

THIS! With bells on!

I can imagine that if you think filling in marginally more than 50% of the forms sent home by school, so roughly 3 a year per child, should qualify you for 100% of the CB and more than £300 a month in maintenance, any amount of paperwork feels arduous.

Upon reflection.. was it easy with the paperwork you were doing before you started this?

And it’s all your own fault. And we told you over and over before it all kicked off; we all told you to cancel your CMS claim, apologise and stop. You ignored us. We told you this would happen… it’s literally all your own fault.

You don’t need to be receiving the CB to have children on your UC claim. It used to be the case but isn’t anymore.

I appreciate that the prospect of redundancy is scary. But surely it will ease your financial burden if DH is maintaining the kids more. He will be feeding them, and transporting them.

Your kids absolutely arent facing a "total loss" if you dont get CB.

"I’m worried I will have to claim UC and if I have no children recorded as living with me then I won’t get much money" they arent being recorded as living with you because they arent living with you. You'd face the same circs once theyre 18.

Regardless of what you mean, when you phrase things like this. It comes across to us readers as your only concern is as much money as possible

Also I don’t know but if you rent your about to be really stuck if you end up on UC. No children means 1 bed entitlement. 1 child means two bed, 2 children but same sex under 16 still 2 bed. LHA rent is nowhere near private rental prices.

You’ve really shot yourself here.

Though I doubt some sudden realisation, I expect this has also helped the children easily start moving to dads.

They are not little babies and toddlers these are teen/tween? Boys who want to live with dad. They will of seen exactly how you talk, act, behave in regard’s to them, their dad and money.

The overall theme I’m getting is just money money money. Not I miss my boys I love my boys, but my moneyyyyy

You were warned numerous times much earlier on about the disaster path you were taking. Yet you insisted on taking it.

Have you even tried apologising to your ex at any point? Without expectations of him giving cash or even changing his mind, but have you bothered at all to be apologetic for the path you've taken you all down?

Do you even acknowledge that the loss of finances is, and if it impacts UC will be, your fault? As you've shown no signs on the threads so far of accepting that this is your doing entirely.

Surely you've at least been sensible enough to put aside what you could owe in CM since your DC1 has been there much more?

He has been more than reasonable throughout this whole situation. You haven't really shown in your threads any kind of contrition or even acknowledgment that this is all your fault.

Is it possible that you could reach out to him and apologize, and tell him that you were wrong and see if he would be willing to drop the rival claims? I know he said that it was going to go through court now but that was because of your behavior. Maybe if you change your ways he wouldn't insist on that.

You’re still only thinking of your self. He might come after ME for money, I might get made redundant to Uc won’t give ME as much money.

You’re right he can’t actually receive CB because he earns so much. But if your not the resident parent you are not entitled to it anyway so it make zero difference to you either because if you don’t have the children over 50% it’s not yours to have.

The child benefit doesn’t matter to your children because they clearly have a father proving for them so again it makes zero difference to them if their non resident parent doesn’t get it.

Nobody owes you £26 a week ffs.

Get caught lying and the judge will have a field day giving the other party every single thing they want.

My ex still bitches about our family court judge doing exactly that and our girls are mid twenties (and he hasn't seen them for several years).

Infact the phones being connect to the wifi at dad’s house will leave a trail. All lovely strong digital footprints.

Does he drive a fancy pants electric car. Often they have seat sensors recording passengers and some even have internal cameras. Since his a higher earner. Again easy to download the info of were the car has been as well such as school runs, hobby’s, clubs, children’s friends houses.

I would put money on it.

It will be the first thing he was told when he got legal advice.

Given how hard OP has been trying to screw over her ex by making statements of, um, questionable veracity to CMS and the child benefits office, I'd put money on him having meticulous and verifiable records of exactly when the DCs gave been with him.

also gps on the lads phones will show exactly where they have been if you had a parent that way inclined for proof. Check their Google locations and ping ping ping.

Get caught lying and the judge will have a field day giving the other party every single thing they want.

One of the things the colleague I mentioned above was advised could potentially be used as evidence was a text message they’d sent to their child, saying they were putting a pizza in the oven and asking if they wanted to share.

In one of the cases I helped in texts were a huge part of it.

Especially the "that's me outside" texts collecting the child from the other parent, and also social events. Also texts to their partner saying "sat nav says 6pm. Child wants X, I fancy Y, can you order/stick the oven on please"

Well… for starters it’s fucking fraud

With camera phones, ring door bells, and even social media it's much harder for people to fake details now.

And once someone is caught faking it once the rest of their statements are going to have much less credibility.

Your ex has most likely kept detailed records. I’d expect it was one of the first pieces of the advice his solicitor gave him. I can’t imagine he’ll submit actual evidence for every day. But if you claim (even by accident) to have had them on a day his own records show he did, he may start looking for evidence.

One of the things the colleague I mentioned above was advised could potentially be used as evidence was a text message they’d sent to their child, saying they were putting a pizza in the oven and asking if they wanted to share.

So in my case, many years ago now, it was a simple diary, but mine was more detailed and therefore when there was a clash and mine said "Had kids. Swimming lessons 7pm" or "Had kids. X's birthday party 2pm" and I could therefore prove that I had them that day my ex had to concede that he had "made an error" on those dates. After the 7th/8th error on his part it was simply accepted that my diary was more accurate.

In the most recent case I helped out in the more honest parent had Ring doorbell details and had also taken daily photographs of the children at set times. They also had a meticulous diary of appointments and events. What made theirs even more credible was their diary acknowledged fully the times the children were with their ex.