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Am I a bad mother for liking my step-daughter more

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Clariey · 22/05/2025 03:30

Okay first of all, I want to clarify, I love my daughters more than I love anyone on this planet, that’s not what this is about.

Background, I have 2 daughters, they are 19 and 21. Lovely girls, both still live at home and I think like most families we have our issues but I love them deeply. As they have gotten older I’ve struggled at times with “liking” them, it’s tricky to explain, as they have all the traits one would want their child to have, they are kind and intelligent, they are funny and in every way I’m proud of them.
However there are traits they both have that sometimes irritate me, a lack of self-awareness, a desperate need to follow every trend and sometimes I feel they lack any originality and seem to be incapable of thinking truly for themselves. We can’t discuss politics as they just regurgitate opinions heard on social media, they pick holidays based on wherever some influencer has said is cool. It often feels like I could be talking to any late teen/early 20s girl. This frustrates me as I’ve always believed in the power of forming your own thoughts and opinions, I feel like this often what makes someone really interesting.

My step-daughter is 22, she moved in with us in September as she moved to the uk for her masters. I never really knew her before this, my husband and her mother were never a couple, she was raised by her mother in one country most of the year then spent summers with her dad in another. When she first moved in with us, I found her hard to read, intensely private and to be honest I didn’t really get her or like her. I loved her as an extension of my husband but didn’t really know her as an individual. Over the months I’ve gotten to know her and I have realised I really like her as a person. She doesn’t seem fussed by trends, not in a contrarian way where if something is trendy she must hate it, more in a I like what I like regardless of the popularity sense. She is incredibly intelligent, she reads books by authors I’ve never heard of, is capable of having meaningful conversations about most topics, from politics to feminism and history. She’s happy to have her view point challenged and her supporting arguments are never “such and such on TikTok said such and such”. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think she is perfect, I think she can be extremely cynical and seems to be permanently dissatisfied with the world.

Lately I’ve felt like I’d rather talk to my stepdaughter than my own children, not because I don’t love my children or enjoy their presence but I sometimes find their life boring. They surround themselves by people who are just like them, all caught up in a whirlwind of trends. Conversations quickly turn to arguments as they get defensive if I ever question a thought process (my theory here is they don’t have a thought process but rather they are regurgitating an opinion, they can’t defend it or talk about it in any real depth as it’s not their own).

On the flip, I feel like my step-daughter challenges me intellectually which I really enjoy. She teaches me things I never knew, has recommended some books to me which have left me feeling haunted and changed as a person. Equally she is receptive to criticism, she is open to discussing anything in depth and being challenged on her views and even conceding that her own opinions aren’t always correct. I know partially it is because she isn’t my daughter, we don’t have the same bond or relationship and probably look at each other more as equals than my own daughters and I do (I think they view me as past my best and a relic of the past while I often view them as naive and immature). Then there is the fact that my step-daughter grew up in a very different world to my own, learning about her childhood, her home city and her culture is all fascinating to me.

Last night I was chatting to my step-daughter and my own daughter wanted to change the topic to a date she had been on recently. I realised I felt a sense of dread at hearing about it as it’s always the same story with a different character. However when my step-daughter goes to share a story from a date she’s been on I am keen to listen, this is because she often has more profound views on the dates, her standards for men are higher and she’s attracted to more interesting people. I felt awful afterwards as in my mind my own children should be my priority, I should be grateful that they want to let me into their life and me being bored by it makes me feel like a bad mother, they are my own flesh and blood, how can I be anything but excited to hear what they have to share?

Now I can’t sleep, I feel like I’ve let my children down in some way, both by comparing them to my step-daughter when they are wonderful people in their own right but also by failing to instil some of these qualities in them.

Has anyone else ever felt like this? Am I awful and unreasonable for feeling this way?

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TheBlueUniform · 22/05/2025 13:26

Yellowlab34 · 22/05/2025 12:57

That's like my dream, for my kids friends to think I'm fun and cool! That and getting on Live Island 40 somethings edition.

Most people would prefer people to be down to earth than a stuck up snob….

okydokethen · 22/05/2025 13:24

I think it’s fine. In the same way you might enjoy a friend’s company more than your children’s for certain conversations.

You didn’t raise her so you don’t have that parental role in her life. She’s a nice adult and you like her, just be pleased with that.

This doesn’t mean you don’t love your daughters - although I imagine if you’re all together it might make it hard for your children who might vie for your attention or particularly dislike your step child.

FigsOfFury · 22/05/2025 13:20

She’s just ‘new’

Arran2024 · 22/05/2025 13:15

Clariey · 22/05/2025 12:26

I haven’t been able to catch up on every comment but there’s a few recurring things I was to clarify.

  1. I don’t disagree with my children’s political views or even entirely agree with my step-daughters. It’s not about that at all, it’s about wanting to have conversations which have some depth. They are not capable of this yet.
  2. Obviously we discuss a wide variety of things from what to eat, the dog we seen in the park, the latest episode of a TV show we are all watching. Step-daughter is no less capable of these so I didn’t mention it
  3. I think people have taken my descriptions as complete rather than as isolated aspects of my daughters vs stepdaughters, when that isn’t the case. My daughters are intelligent and both are at university (one studying nursing the other primary education). They stayed at home because they wanted to, we live in London, in a nice area and they have lots of friends they just didn’t want to leave.
  4. I think people have created a very specific image of step-daughter that isn’t really true. It’s not that she doesn’t have fun, she does, she goes clubbing, and out for drinks with friends often, she dates (perhaps too much really), she has a love for travel, art and history. But she also uses social media, she is just more sceptical of the narrative that my daughters are. She views social media as a way of hearing new opinions and being introduced to new ideas rather than as a complete source of information. This is what frustrates me. It’s not the use of social media but rather the lack of awareness that social media (just as much as traditional media) can be wrong and any solid view point comes from having looked at something from all angles.
  5. I have never said there is anything wrong with liking getting your hair and nails done or watching love island. All the girls get their hair and nails done often. They all share interests and qualities.

I spoke to my DH about this and he was pointing out that her childhood reality was quite different from my children. She grew up to a single mother, who didn’t have much money in Italy, her mother had her young and almost blamed her for being why she would never be successful and made it clear to step-daughter that she had to be successful, she’d given up her life for her and she had to make it worth it. Step-daughter has told her DH how often her mother would hit her, because her room wasn’t tidy enough, because her marks weren’t high enough because she came 2nd in a tennis tournament instead of first. Her mum passed away when she was 16 and she finished school living with her grandparents. I don’t think I fully grasped the pressure she had on her as a child. I imagine if my daughters sat down with step-daughter they would find very few shared experiences in their childhoods.

Her background is highly relevant here imo. I mentioned my adopted daughters and how they zoom in on mother figures and make them feel amazing. Well-adjusted kids don't do this. They know they are loved and valued and they don't seek affirmation everywhere they go.

Perhaps this girl wants your admiration and is giving you what you want. She is in a vulnerable situation - away from home, lost her mother.

I would say to be careful. You may not be seeing the real her. My daughter used to bring home friends who apparently adored me - they all turned out to be incredibly damaged and some seriously crazy stuff happened in the end. But it was lovely at first when I was basically being love bombed. I was also so much more enjoying their company. All an illusion unfortunately.

Yellowlab34 · 22/05/2025 13:09

MissDoubleU · 22/05/2025 12:07

Thank you!! This is exactly what I’ve been trying to illustrate. It’s the whole “Girls who like pink aren’t as clever as me, I like green. I’m different and smarter and make my own choices. I don’t follow trends like other girls.”

Fuck up. Other girls are great. Girls in pink and heels and nails done are great. Women who are intellectual free thinkers can and DO love TikTok and love island. Actually fight me on it. Internalised misogyny is disgusting and OP needs to evaluate why she dislikes her own daughters just for living their lives.

I'm a reasonably intellectual free thinker, and I think that Love Island is vapid, watched by some as aspirational but many as modern day bear baiting. Literally pastic people desperately faking emotions so they can be influencers. It's tragic in a Brave New World way.

MissDoubleU · 22/05/2025 13:06

Clariey · 22/05/2025 12:58

But that’s it exactly, step-daughter is like your daughter, she’s not anti-trends, she loves Taylor swift, drools over Charles Leclerc and happily sits and picks out dresses with my daughters. I never said you can’t be intelligent, cultures and worldly, but also feminine and young, I never once said that!

So when your daughters like popular things they’re victim to following trends and when your DSD loves Taylor swift its.. an intellectual decision of her own free will? And nothing to do with her extreme popularity?

MrsSlocombesCat · 22/05/2025 13:01

It's nothing to do with the way your daughter's were brought up. Ignore everyone saying that. I have five sons, I love them all but three of them are very different to me personality wise and two are very similar. I hate to say it but I think it's about whether you are an intellectual thinker or not. Just because you gave birth to them it doesn't mean you will automatically get on like a house on fire once they're adults. Don't beat yourself up, as long as your girls know you love them it's fine.

Soontobesingles · 22/05/2025 12:59

Stepdaughter is kind of misleading here because you haven’t really known this woman as a child and raised her with all the deep complexities that generates with both bio and stepchildren. You have found someone you are enjoying on the level of a friend, whereas your children are not your friends, they’re your kids. That’s it. It’s like of course I like my friends in a more sociable way than I like my kids. That’s why we have friends. I wouldn’t complicate it with the ‘daughter’ issue as this woman isn’t your daughter in any substantial way. (I’m comparing here as a stepmum who has been in DSD’s life since she was 6, and been there to raise her through different stages and see all the ways she is flawed and brilliant, as with my own kids. Meeting an adult who I have shared interests with doesn’t even compare really.)

Clariey · 22/05/2025 12:58

Suzzled · 22/05/2025 12:52

Why do we need to put these young people in boxes anyway? It’s not that black and white. My young adult daughter loves Love Island and is always saving up for the latest lipgloss she saw on TikTok. She is also passionate about the environment and is studying STEM at Oxbridge.

These young people are starting out and developing personalities. And they will be affected by many external factors. I changed so much in my twenties. How about we don’t write these young women off aged 19 and 21?

But that’s it exactly, step-daughter is like your daughter, she’s not anti-trends, she loves Taylor swift, drools over Charles Leclerc and happily sits and picks out dresses with my daughters. I never said you can’t be intelligent, cultures and worldly, but also feminine and young, I never once said that!

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Yellowlab34 · 22/05/2025 12:57

TheBlueUniform · 22/05/2025 11:37

Totally agree.

Hey OP, in the way you find them mundane and boring they probably like their mates Mothers better than you. They probably find them more fun and cool and you not so, so all equal I’d say.

That's like my dream, for my kids friends to think I'm fun and cool! That and getting on Live Island 40 somethings edition.

Suzzled · 22/05/2025 12:56

People who have had difficult childhoods are often forced to ‘grow up’ too quickly. I work in mental health and I do not feel that this is a good thing.

Arran2024 · 22/05/2025 12:55

Gwenhwyfar · 22/05/2025 11:25

"And the girls loved it and fed right into it. A neighbour used to refer to my younger daughter as "my other daughter"."

Why is that necessarily wrong. I know of non-related people being considered 'like' grandparents and family friends being called aunties (and considered aunties). Also, aunts who say they love their nieces/nephews like their own or who consider their cousins' children to be as close as their nieces/nephews. I don't see what's wrong with it.

Well for starters it is deeply inappropriate in an adoptive situation. My daughter has already had numerous mothers - birth mother, two foster mothers, me, and she doesn't need another one. The removal of a child from birth mother is potentially catastrophic in terms of attachments. Adoptive families have to spend years growing these attachments. You don't just welcome a 2 year old into your family and that's that. Adoption is incredibly complex and the mother figure for these children is often highly fraught because of previous experiences. My daughter and I had years of attachment therapy because all her previous mothers had "abandoned" her. The last thing someone like this needs is another mother figure, especially one who never has to set boundaries, get her to do her homework etc. Just treats and positive interactions. That sets a child up for "splitting", where there is "good" mummy" and "bad" mummy and therapists will have a field day with this as well. We were told up front about this playing out- apparently people often act like adopted kids are public property. They feel able to take liberties they wouldn't with someone's birth child and, like I've explained, the child is often thrilled to have the attention without the attachment.

ruethewhirl · 22/05/2025 12:54

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/05/2025 03:59

You raised your dds. If you’re not satisfied with how they are, I would say to learn about their world and about how to challenge their thinking. Ie get reading and studying. This will give you the scope to learn from them and expand who you are. What you’re doing right now is passive learning, which of course is interesting, but doesn’t upskill you in areas to upskill your kids.

Agree with this. And please don't let your daughters catch on to how you feel.

Yellowlab34 · 22/05/2025 12:54

Lifeofryan · 22/05/2025 11:03

They have no idea of the history, and refuse to take the time to learn it.

They are not interested in politics or history and that's okay. You shouldn't expect your children to be a mini you or someone to have discussions about history with. I think you need to go out more OP.

The OPs kids aren't saying they know nothing about Israel Palestine, they are spouting simplistic views without any knowledge. OP isn't setting them politics quizes before breakfast, they are sharing their willfully ignorant views.

Suzzled · 22/05/2025 12:52

Why do we need to put these young people in boxes anyway? It’s not that black and white. My young adult daughter loves Love Island and is always saving up for the latest lipgloss she saw on TikTok. She is also passionate about the environment and is studying STEM at Oxbridge.

These young people are starting out and developing personalities. And they will be affected by many external factors. I changed so much in my twenties. How about we don’t write these young women off aged 19 and 21?

w0nderwall · 22/05/2025 12:50

subliminated · 22/05/2025 11:38

I 100% agree about moving out and gaining independence but I am not surprised that your friends didnt speak to their own mothers - who were likely born a hundred years ago in the 1920s - about expectations and boundaries within successful intimate relationships. We have come a long way since with respect to our understanding of emotional intelligence to build the foundations of equal relationships. IMHO there ar red flags and green flags that we as older woman have experienced or observed or informed ourselves about that are good to share with our daughters if appropriate.

The step daughter doesnt appear to have learned resilience - she's very dissatisfied and seemingly unable to let her hair down and embrace fun in her youth?

Edited

Just for perspective, my 60yo friend has a mum who was born in 1940 (not 1920!)

WhoAteTheLastBrownie · 22/05/2025 12:46

@ Clariey, Not the point of this thread but what books has she recommended to you that have left you feeling haunted and changed as a person?

subliminated · 22/05/2025 12:41

Wow your SD has had a really challenging, emotionally neglectful/abusive childhood and her experiences are still very current and will have shaped how she currently chooses to show up in the world. Totally understandable but she is likely emotionally immature/stunted through her adverse experineces and even though this doesnt present on the outside she is vulnerable and has so much healing and growth to go through. It seems she may be seeking your approval the only way she knows how by impressing / performing for your intellectually.

I think that your original post is possibly because you unconsciously sense that this dialogue is a deeper emotional maternal connection?

Gardenservant · 22/05/2025 12:41

There is nothing like living/working in another country to develop maturity and wisdom. It should be encouraged for everyone. My understandinng of the world was greater after working in Euope for 5 years and for 1 year in the US. I can sympathise with your frustration that your daughters regurgitate what they see on social media without really thinking about it. It seems to be the problem with that generation, I hope they grow out of it. I thank goodness that it wasn't available when I was in my teens, and that I can see two sides to arguments.

IsobelPepys · 22/05/2025 12:40

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Emonade · 22/05/2025 12:38

Clariey · 22/05/2025 05:24

See I really disagree here, there are definitely some topics my children do just regurgitate opinions on and having directed them towards seeking other sources of information have been told flat out now. Such as I often fear my children lack the nuance and depth necessary to understand the war in Gaza. They often times sound almost anti-Semitic in the way they speak and defend this attitude with simple one liners. They have no idea of the history, and refuse to take the time to learn it.
Now I don’t really mind if at their ages they don’t want to go on a deep dive of history to understand, however it does bother me that they take their one dimensional understanding and use it as an excuse to be horrid at times.
I don’t deny social media has a place in learning now, it does however there is no amount of 60 second TikTok’s that will give someone a rounded view on a situation like the war in Gaza.
My stepdaughter on the other hand, sits far more neutral on the subject, admits that she doesn’t have a full grasp of the situation but is happy to learn, talk to people, read books and articles, learn about the history etc.
Its not that I disagree with my children’s political views as I don’t really, we all as a family sit on the left, however it bothers me when they can’t back their opinions up, I think that’s a really important skill.
I think their heart is in the right place and they are wonderfully kind girls (more so than my step daughter, who is more cautious with her kindness) but they haven’t yet developed the maturity to understand that the vast majority of things in life don’t have a clear right and wrong.
I also know they get their stubbornness from me, and at 18-22 I was probably equally shocked to be told I was wrong and reluctant to admit that I didn’t know everything!

In many ways I think what it comes down to is for various reasons (childhood and culture) step-daughter is mature beyond her years, I think this can make my children look immature in comparison when really they are exactly where they are meant to be at their ages. Maybe I ought to feel more sadness that step-daughter has been forced to grow up quickly and mature faster than anyone really should.

Theyre young! They are liberal and following trends because that’s what you do. Give them a break, you don’t have kids to be intellectually stimulated by them

BanditsWife · 22/05/2025 12:35

Your step daughter sounds very mature indeed. No wonder, you describe a difficult childhood, being raised in two countries with what can be deemed an abusive mother who passes at a formative age. These sorts of experiences will expose someone to unfairness and nuance in their own situation and in the wider world too.

It’s not the use of social media but rather the lack of awareness that social media (just as much as traditional media) can be wrong and any solid view point comes from having looked at something from all angles. This is something you probably should have addressed with your girls earlier. Understanding different view points within the media, media bias, different perspectives through the lens of history - these are all discussions you can have with your children from primary school age and onwards. It then becomes more important still when they are actively using social media. I would say it’s never too late to start those discussions though.

Tulipsontoast · 22/05/2025 12:35

She’s a new exotic bird, fascinating because she’s different. Once you get used to her your crush may fade. She also isn’t your daughter, you can have a different kind of relationship with her.

I like your honesty.

SchoolMom1979 · 22/05/2025 12:35

MissDoubleU · 22/05/2025 12:07

Thank you!! This is exactly what I’ve been trying to illustrate. It’s the whole “Girls who like pink aren’t as clever as me, I like green. I’m different and smarter and make my own choices. I don’t follow trends like other girls.”

Fuck up. Other girls are great. Girls in pink and heels and nails done are great. Women who are intellectual free thinkers can and DO love TikTok and love island. Actually fight me on it. Internalised misogyny is disgusting and OP needs to evaluate why she dislikes her own daughters just for living their lives.

She never said she dislikes her daughters! Just that she likes her stepdaughter more! Nothing to cry to the winds about!

SchoolMom1979 · 22/05/2025 12:30

Don't feel bad! It's perfectly normal to LOVE someone, but not LIKE them. I know how terrible it can make you feel, I have had times when I liked other kids more than my son, and I think I felt bad because I knew I had raised him better! I love him more than life and I adore him, I know my son is a lot younger than your girls (he turns 16 in a couple of months), so he is still maturing, he had a period when everything he'd found on YouTube was Scripture! But he's outgrown that. Your daughters will, too, once they start living their lives away from the safety of their home. Remember this: YOU ARE NOT A BAD MOTHER and the people who have said that are horrible! And your stepdaughter is not a new shiny toy, she is probably someone you resonate with more, and there's nothing wrong with it!

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