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Am I a bad mother for liking my step-daughter more

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Clariey · 22/05/2025 03:30

Okay first of all, I want to clarify, I love my daughters more than I love anyone on this planet, that’s not what this is about.

Background, I have 2 daughters, they are 19 and 21. Lovely girls, both still live at home and I think like most families we have our issues but I love them deeply. As they have gotten older I’ve struggled at times with “liking” them, it’s tricky to explain, as they have all the traits one would want their child to have, they are kind and intelligent, they are funny and in every way I’m proud of them.
However there are traits they both have that sometimes irritate me, a lack of self-awareness, a desperate need to follow every trend and sometimes I feel they lack any originality and seem to be incapable of thinking truly for themselves. We can’t discuss politics as they just regurgitate opinions heard on social media, they pick holidays based on wherever some influencer has said is cool. It often feels like I could be talking to any late teen/early 20s girl. This frustrates me as I’ve always believed in the power of forming your own thoughts and opinions, I feel like this often what makes someone really interesting.

My step-daughter is 22, she moved in with us in September as she moved to the uk for her masters. I never really knew her before this, my husband and her mother were never a couple, she was raised by her mother in one country most of the year then spent summers with her dad in another. When she first moved in with us, I found her hard to read, intensely private and to be honest I didn’t really get her or like her. I loved her as an extension of my husband but didn’t really know her as an individual. Over the months I’ve gotten to know her and I have realised I really like her as a person. She doesn’t seem fussed by trends, not in a contrarian way where if something is trendy she must hate it, more in a I like what I like regardless of the popularity sense. She is incredibly intelligent, she reads books by authors I’ve never heard of, is capable of having meaningful conversations about most topics, from politics to feminism and history. She’s happy to have her view point challenged and her supporting arguments are never “such and such on TikTok said such and such”. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think she is perfect, I think she can be extremely cynical and seems to be permanently dissatisfied with the world.

Lately I’ve felt like I’d rather talk to my stepdaughter than my own children, not because I don’t love my children or enjoy their presence but I sometimes find their life boring. They surround themselves by people who are just like them, all caught up in a whirlwind of trends. Conversations quickly turn to arguments as they get defensive if I ever question a thought process (my theory here is they don’t have a thought process but rather they are regurgitating an opinion, they can’t defend it or talk about it in any real depth as it’s not their own).

On the flip, I feel like my step-daughter challenges me intellectually which I really enjoy. She teaches me things I never knew, has recommended some books to me which have left me feeling haunted and changed as a person. Equally she is receptive to criticism, she is open to discussing anything in depth and being challenged on her views and even conceding that her own opinions aren’t always correct. I know partially it is because she isn’t my daughter, we don’t have the same bond or relationship and probably look at each other more as equals than my own daughters and I do (I think they view me as past my best and a relic of the past while I often view them as naive and immature). Then there is the fact that my step-daughter grew up in a very different world to my own, learning about her childhood, her home city and her culture is all fascinating to me.

Last night I was chatting to my step-daughter and my own daughter wanted to change the topic to a date she had been on recently. I realised I felt a sense of dread at hearing about it as it’s always the same story with a different character. However when my step-daughter goes to share a story from a date she’s been on I am keen to listen, this is because she often has more profound views on the dates, her standards for men are higher and she’s attracted to more interesting people. I felt awful afterwards as in my mind my own children should be my priority, I should be grateful that they want to let me into their life and me being bored by it makes me feel like a bad mother, they are my own flesh and blood, how can I be anything but excited to hear what they have to share?

Now I can’t sleep, I feel like I’ve let my children down in some way, both by comparing them to my step-daughter when they are wonderful people in their own right but also by failing to instil some of these qualities in them.

Has anyone else ever felt like this? Am I awful and unreasonable for feeling this way?

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ByNattyAnt · 23/05/2025 20:57

Don't overlook this factor - your step-daughter is a lttle older than your daughters and she therefore has the edge maturity-wise.
Your daughters may mature a little later but be prepared that when they do, they will have fully-fledged personalities which will surprise you many times over!
Just because your step-daughter is cerebral doesn't mean she's 'better'. You and she have a great deal in common but don't underestimate your daughters! Continue to nurture them, giving them love, understanding and support.

My own daughter wasn't too bothered about school and I'm more studious. However she grew up to be an amazingly empathetic, positive, witty, charming, resilient, hard-working, popular young woman and she knocks spots off me when it comes to mothering. She's wise beyond her years and beyond mine too. Crucially listen to this I continually learn so much from her!
I wish you well.

CalmStork · 23/05/2025 20:38

Don't feel bad..

To be honest...it sounds like you have raised two social and confident girls....that is an achievement too.

Everyone is different and it is best not to compare...the grass is always greener on the other side...as they say.

I feel somewhere you feel you have let down your children by not raising them the way your step daughter has been raised.

And if I am being honest loving someone who is not your own is probably more unusual so in fact what you have is beautiful. You will love your own daughters because they are your own and you will love your step daughter because she is the daughter you always wanted .....you can only do your best as a mother, don't think too much about it....just love them for who they are ...as the fact that your own daughter interrupted your step daughter shows that she felt you were more partial to.your step daughter.

Social media and modern technology have a lot to blame for what you are so upset to see in your daughters...but I am sure responsibility in the real world will help them move away from these habits and help them acheive their real potential.

Take care, from one mum to another.

Gwenhwyfar · 23/05/2025 20:37

BunnyLake · 23/05/2025 10:32

People in one family can all have very different personalities from the day they are born. Me and my sister were chalk and cheese, same upbringing. My two sons were very different literally on the days they were born, such different reactions to being out and in the world for the first time, and those different traits stayed right through their childhoods.

We don't know exactly how much of us is nature or nurture, but we definitely can't claim like you do that our personalities were completely formed before we were born.

TicklishMintDuck · 23/05/2025 17:01

Your daughters are still so young. They have very little experience of the world. Over the next five years or so they’ll grow into themselves. When I look back to when I was 19/20/21, I was still a kid really.

cheesepielover · 23/05/2025 16:53

You have some ridiculous expectations here. Has it never crossed your mind that your own children find your topics of conversation boring and would much rather talk about light hearted things?

Not every person wants to sit and debate or have such deep conversations? It really sounds like the majority of your conversations with them are about political views, history etc. You said you have no interest in the books your youngest reads, ever thought they don’t have any interest in your topic of conversations?

I know lots of young girls/women who want to have lighthearted conversations, nothing that is deep or where someone is questioning you and almost interviewing you. I’m sure they just want an easy conversation with their mum about the things they are into and enjoy. Chances are they’ll grow out of some of it anyway but even if they didn’t, they’re happy aren’t they?

You seem a lot more bothered about problems that are tiny in the grand scheme of things.

You have two happy healthy daughters and a SD who you have more in common with it appears to be. Enjoy your time with them, when they eventually leave you’ll miss them and their dating stories.

Suzzled · 23/05/2025 14:04

Your daughter’s comments sound very antisemitic. As has been discussed endlessly, it is possible to be against Netanyahu’s actions but not blame them on every Jewish or Israeli person. I’d be very disappointed if my kids expressed those kind of views OP.

KingMungBean · 23/05/2025 11:46

OP some of this is on you for not teaching them the difference between anti-Zionism and anti-semitism when you were bringing them up. School and uni can’t do all the heavy lifting. You should pull them up on anti-semitism. I also think you need to get a stronger grounding in one of the biggest issues in the world right now.

WhatNoRaisins · 23/05/2025 11:39

Clariey · 23/05/2025 09:30

I think when we are we walking past a Synagogue and my daughter mutters under her breath “child murderers” that is anti-Semitic.

I said before I wasn’t going to repeat what had been said but you insist on keep pushing and seem to think I am dense and lack the ability to know what antisemitism is!

How does she react when you try to talk about it? Or ask questions like "do you realise that there are Jewish people all over the world and they don't all support what is happening in Gaza?"

BunnyLake · 23/05/2025 10:32

Gwenhwyfar · 22/05/2025 15:10

"I doubt it’s got anything to do with how they were raised (as some people seem to be saying) but just different personalities and experiences. "

Where do you think personalities and experiences come from?

People in one family can all have very different personalities from the day they are born. Me and my sister were chalk and cheese, same upbringing. My two sons were very different literally on the days they were born, such different reactions to being out and in the world for the first time, and those different traits stayed right through their childhoods.

Calliopespa · 23/05/2025 09:44

Redpeach · 23/05/2025 09:44

Isn't calling a huge swathe of the population brain dead, well, a little brain dead

Well possibly. Perhaps I’m too often using social media!

Redpeach · 23/05/2025 09:44

Calliopespa · 22/05/2025 14:53

Well no doubt, because I think she has raised a good and important point.

I personally think the whole guilt/stepdaughter/dd dynamic is a bit peripheral. I think the real substance in op’s post is about how brain-dead we are letting our society become.

Edited

Isn't calling a huge swathe of the population brain dead, well, a little brain dead

Clariey · 23/05/2025 09:30

MissDoubleU · 23/05/2025 08:11

OP do you actually even know what antisemitic means? Do you know that by every single definition Palestinian people are semites? And therefore any support of them is not, in any way at all, antisemitism?

Once again I think you need to educate yourself and take note of your DD’s deeper understanding of things than perhaps yourself. You seem to yourself following trends and what you have been told to believe, rather than doing your own research.

I think when we are we walking past a Synagogue and my daughter mutters under her breath “child murderers” that is anti-Semitic.

I said before I wasn’t going to repeat what had been said but you insist on keep pushing and seem to think I am dense and lack the ability to know what antisemitism is!

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Toootss · 23/05/2025 08:23

Do you already have friends who are on the same wavelength as you - as you perceive your step-daughter to be.

Also I would guess she is more friendly and tolerant of you than she is of a stranger.

MissDoubleU · 23/05/2025 08:11

Clariey · 22/05/2025 07:22

No you’ve misunderstood. I agree with my daughters in principle I don’t agree with them being antisemitic.
Step daughter definitely knows more about the war and history than I do or my daughters do, she’s taken a keen interest in learning, even having learnt, she still admits she doesn’t know everything.

OP do you actually even know what antisemitic means? Do you know that by every single definition Palestinian people are semites? And therefore any support of them is not, in any way at all, antisemitism?

Once again I think you need to educate yourself and take note of your DD’s deeper understanding of things than perhaps yourself. You seem to yourself following trends and what you have been told to believe, rather than doing your own research.

PicaK · 23/05/2025 07:29

She's not your daughter - she's a friend and she's like you. So you get on.

Your daughters are your daughters. You can value them for that. They're not supposed to be your friends.

I wouldn't beat yourself up. They're different people to you. We just have to love our children fiercely. But - like when they were toddlers - you still need to listen to their stories and show interest in their lives.

CannotWaitForSummervibes · 23/05/2025 07:06

It’s logical your step-daughter is more mature: she’s older and moved to another country.
you can’t compare your children to her.
of course she’s going to think more maturely. Your children simply are not yet at the same level of maturity.
it’s like comparing a 4 year old and 10 year old.

you need to flip this switch in your mind quickly, because your children WILL notice your attitude and (rightly) not like her for being your favorite.

Flyswats · 23/05/2025 02:10

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/05/2025 23:32

Ps your stepdaughter will be on best behaviour here. She probably lets out a more childish side with her mother

I think it was mentioned up thread that the SD's mum died years ago.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/05/2025 23:32

Ps your stepdaughter will be on best behaviour here. She probably lets out a more childish side with her mother

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/05/2025 23:31

I think our own family members can trigger us more and we have more expectations on them

It's easy to meet a stranger and like them more as a friend.

Imagine if your daughters said 'I love my mum but I have much better chats with my stepmum she feels like a more interesting friend more on my level' - quite possible that that could happen

Calliopespa · 22/05/2025 23:18

Higyt56899 · 22/05/2025 19:37

Christ, this is awful. You're a parent , your kids aren't supposed to be your friends.
You're friends with your step daughter. Not another woman wanting a best friend in her children. Boak

It’s not really her step-daughter. She’s only just met her all grown up. No parenting relationship involved.

Higyt56899 · 22/05/2025 19:37

Christ, this is awful. You're a parent , your kids aren't supposed to be your friends.
You're friends with your step daughter. Not another woman wanting a best friend in her children. Boak

Calliopespa · 22/05/2025 19:30

SaintAgatha · 22/05/2025 10:09

Your daughters sound normal. You sound sneering and mildly out of touch.

How sad if that’s true.

thepariscrimefiles · 22/05/2025 19:15

Clariey · 22/05/2025 12:26

I haven’t been able to catch up on every comment but there’s a few recurring things I was to clarify.

  1. I don’t disagree with my children’s political views or even entirely agree with my step-daughters. It’s not about that at all, it’s about wanting to have conversations which have some depth. They are not capable of this yet.
  2. Obviously we discuss a wide variety of things from what to eat, the dog we seen in the park, the latest episode of a TV show we are all watching. Step-daughter is no less capable of these so I didn’t mention it
  3. I think people have taken my descriptions as complete rather than as isolated aspects of my daughters vs stepdaughters, when that isn’t the case. My daughters are intelligent and both are at university (one studying nursing the other primary education). They stayed at home because they wanted to, we live in London, in a nice area and they have lots of friends they just didn’t want to leave.
  4. I think people have created a very specific image of step-daughter that isn’t really true. It’s not that she doesn’t have fun, she does, she goes clubbing, and out for drinks with friends often, she dates (perhaps too much really), she has a love for travel, art and history. But she also uses social media, she is just more sceptical of the narrative that my daughters are. She views social media as a way of hearing new opinions and being introduced to new ideas rather than as a complete source of information. This is what frustrates me. It’s not the use of social media but rather the lack of awareness that social media (just as much as traditional media) can be wrong and any solid view point comes from having looked at something from all angles.
  5. I have never said there is anything wrong with liking getting your hair and nails done or watching love island. All the girls get their hair and nails done often. They all share interests and qualities.

I spoke to my DH about this and he was pointing out that her childhood reality was quite different from my children. She grew up to a single mother, who didn’t have much money in Italy, her mother had her young and almost blamed her for being why she would never be successful and made it clear to step-daughter that she had to be successful, she’d given up her life for her and she had to make it worth it. Step-daughter has told her DH how often her mother would hit her, because her room wasn’t tidy enough, because her marks weren’t high enough because she came 2nd in a tennis tournament instead of first. Her mum passed away when she was 16 and she finished school living with her grandparents. I don’t think I fully grasped the pressure she had on her as a child. I imagine if my daughters sat down with step-daughter they would find very few shared experiences in their childhoods.

It sounds as though your step-daughter had a difficult childhood with her mum and after her mum died. Her mum sounds abusive and that will have had a significant effect on your step-daughter and she obviously had to grow up very quickly.

Where was your DH, her dad, when all this was going on? Did he know about the abuse when it was happening? Why did she go to her grandparents after her mum died, rather than go to her dad? None off this is showing him in a particularly good light.

LaDamaDeElche · 22/05/2025 19:01

You and your children are just really different and I think you’re seeing your SD more in the way you would see a friend, as you haven’t been a part of her life growing up. I would cut your daughters a bit of slack though as you sound like you feel superior to them. Not everyone wants to debate politics and talk about intellectual things and be intellectually challenged. People are all different. Perhaps your daughters find you heavy going and a lot in the same way you seem to see them as vacuous.

knor · 22/05/2025 18:37

Sounds like your daughters are acting their ages whereas your dsd is acting more mature for an age and more like a friend/adult you can relate to. I’d give it time with your daughters - we were all like this at this age. I’d keep talking to them all equally

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