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Men DO NOT have right of way!

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CalmDownCats · 20/05/2025 23:24

Has anyone else noticed this?

Since around my mid-40s I've noticed that, in particular older men my age or above, just barge straight towards me and expect me to get out of their way.

Since realising this seemed to actually be a thing, I now just hold my ground and keep going. I sometimes even get silly, smirky looks from them as they go around me, as if they know exactly what they are doing.

It's usually older guys, never really younger ones.

Is this just me or does it happen to others too? Is it something that's always happened to middle aged ladies or just a sign of the times?

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pinkfloralcurtains · 22/05/2025 06:51

Pedestrians (as the most vulnerable road users) have right of way over horses on bridleways so you are in the wrong here.

Danglinglights · 22/05/2025 06:41

This happens out riding in the countryside across the edge of fields. Rather than just stand to the side safely they continue heading straight for me and my horse. I just say he kicks watch out. He doesn’t but then they shift. They often have loose dogs which they refuse to put on a lead too.

I will not put my horse in a field of crops to damage them when someone can just stand to the side of the bridle path safely.

I’m in my early 50s. When I was riding in my 20s the amounts of men in cars or walking that would say derogatory comments was unbelievable. I’ve even had a group of men grab my horse’s reins when younger. That was scary. I was really frightened in woods.

I’d love anyone try that now. Confidence is higher and perimenopause means I take no crap. Also, since that incident I carry a whip. It’s not for my horse. It’s in case anything like that happens again.

Oddly women do not do this. We often have lovely chats.

Wallywobbles · 22/05/2025 06:33

A guy in the supermarket in France went absolutely mental when I didn’t get out of his way. Made my evening. I laughed all the way round.

Bert2025 · 22/05/2025 06:29

I have found people of both sexes where I live to be pretty polite overall but I walk at quite a fast pace generally and just pick my path and keep on going with slight adjustments if someone is approaching.

What I have noticed at work at times is people of both sexes stepping aside to let me through a door first at which is very polite but the, ‘after you’ that I have been taught to say seems to have given way to a rather perfunctory and impatient, ‘go on!’ If there is a split second of hesitation on my part!

I like good manners so this irks me a little but I just try and model ‘after you’ next time I see them (staff of about 100 so might not happen again). Small thing but revealing of mindset.

furrysocks · 22/05/2025 06:03

I had this the other day in London. I genuinely didn’t see him so didn’t move and he walked straight into me. He then - someone bizarrely almost tried to keep walking through me - I had stopped still and it really didn’t seem to occur to him that it would be easier to take a step back and for us to walk around each other.

YehRight · 22/05/2025 03:52

I also think it's entirely possible that a lot of men have got sick of being expected to stand aside and say 'ladies first' so are playing their own version of patriarchy chicken. This would explain why it's often older men that do it. They're saying "well, if you want equality it's not always going to be 'ladies first'."

YehRight · 22/05/2025 03:34

I'll move aside for prams, wheelchairs, the elderly or people with young children

A lot of people are saying it's old men that do it the most. Does this mean said posters are deliberately barging into elderly people!

My father struggles walking nowadays so I can't see him dodging out the way of people easily. If somebody intentionally bowled into him whilst I was there they'd be getting a muay thai kick to the leg at the very least!

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 21/05/2025 21:29

Newbutoldfather · 21/05/2025 15:52

@BeNiceWhenItsFinished ,

Try not to ignore what I wrote in brackets, ‘or any other woman for that matter if she can logically explain it to me in a way that makes sense’ ,or the linked article, written by a woman, which supports what I read.

It is a parents’ forum and I am a parent who has been on in excess of a decade, so my comment has equal value to anyone else’s.

Go patronise somewhere else.

Tessiebear2023 · 21/05/2025 19:30

Badbadbunny · 21/05/2025 19:17

Trouble is the bikes are all over the pavements too. It's a bloody dangerous place to be is Oxford!

Are they? I work in Oxford, I've never seen a bike on the pavement.

Badbadbunny · 21/05/2025 19:17

Tessiebear2023 · 21/05/2025 16:14

🤣 there are a lot of bikes and scooters in Oxford, stick to the pavements is my advice.

Trouble is the bikes are all over the pavements too. It's a bloody dangerous place to be is Oxford!

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 21/05/2025 18:40

Not exactly what the thread is about for this example but I was once going to the shops and it had rained heavily earlier in the day. As I was walking along, I could see part of the pavement had flooded and there was only one point that you could step over and not be in the water. This man was headed to the same point as me but it was clear I would arrive first. I stepped over and all he had was to wait a beat for me to pass him so he could get to step over. For this I got called a 'Fucking bitch'. Charming.

I also had a woman bash into me. It was funnily enough outside Victoria station. They were doing something on the pavements so they put up barriers in the road as a bypass. You could fit one line walking one way and one line walking another. As I got near the end these two women appeared, one a should out from her friend. She clocked me so I assume she'd move behind her friend as we passed each other. She did not so I slammed into her shoulder. I didn't look back or acknowledge her just assumed she was an ignorant cow that expected me to somehow get smaller so she could continue walking as she wanted.

Tessiebear2023 · 21/05/2025 17:35

Boredlass · 21/05/2025 15:36

I see it more with women. Young women especially

Actually, yes. And young female drivers are the least likely to wave you on when crossing the road, or let you out of a side road.

BumpyWinds · 21/05/2025 17:33

SapphireSeptember · 21/05/2025 14:54

My favourite example was me running down the stairs at the train station as I was desperate to not miss my train. Some bloke who was coming up the stairs wouldn't get out of the way, (despite technically being on the wrong side.) As this was 2016 and I was in my 20s, it's definitely not the preserve of older women, or older men as he looked like he was in his 30s. I've got more bolshy as I've got older. Now I have a pram as well. I will run you over. I've had people trying to walk through said pram as well. You can't exactly miss it! It's a Cosatto one (my friend gave it to me) with a nice pattern on it.

I stopped and helped a lady at a tube station a while back. It was her with a buggy and her elderly mum who had a walking stick. She was just about to start walking up the stairs backwards, bumping the child in the buggy up the steps when I stepped in and offered to help, then carried the front of the buggy while we all walked up.

Her mum was very grateful and loudly vocal in her thanks saying "thank you so much for helping - we've been standing here ages while plenty of fit and healthy men have just ignored us!" One passing man at least had the courtesy to look a bit sheepish!

Now, I don't agree with the mum that it should have been a man that stopped to help, but it was a shame they'd been standing there a while before I came along so it was indicative of the attitude of many nowadays.

Lucelady · 21/05/2025 16:36

I did put a thread up on why men post on mumsnet. It's a good bun fight. Worth a read if you're bored😅

My phone is not letting me link it.

Octopusespunchforfun · 21/05/2025 16:35

CrowMate · 21/05/2025 06:45

This happens in swimming pools too. I used to go to a pool that was open swimming but for one lane at the end. In the day, the pool was always almost empty. I’d choose the lane as liked the rope guide. Even if the rest of the pool was empty, I’d find a man would get into the lane too and power down the middle. Meaning I had to stop or get out of the way. It was also a small lane, so two people in it, unless swimming carefully wasn’t comfortable - why join? One got in the lane was just to walk up and down. I was never joined by another woman. If I didn’t have the lane, they’d join the open area, even when the lane / rest of the pool was empty. It used to really wind me up.

It was always older men (time of day I guess). Couldn’t even enjoy use the jacuzzi after the swim as it was like an old man dumpling soup.

I remember my mum calling me one day incensed as a man had swum OVER her in a lane

Redpeach · 21/05/2025 16:19

Meanttobeworking · 21/05/2025 16:17

Men do have a tendency to assume everyone will make way for them but couples/groups are also good at pavement hogging. Oh and children obviously.

Edited

Grrr, humans

Meanttobeworking · 21/05/2025 16:17

Men do have a tendency to assume everyone will make way for them but couples/groups are also good at pavement hogging. Oh and children obviously.

Redpeach · 21/05/2025 16:15

ERthree · 21/05/2025 16:10

In Oxford they just run you over with their bicycle's.

And those cars are quite annoying too

Tessiebear2023 · 21/05/2025 16:14

ERthree · 21/05/2025 16:10

In Oxford they just run you over with their bicycle's.

🤣 there are a lot of bikes and scooters in Oxford, stick to the pavements is my advice.

ERthree · 21/05/2025 16:10

Tessiebear2023 · 21/05/2025 14:20

It's definitely a thing in London, but not here in Oxford. Where have you noticed it?

In Oxford they just run you over with their bicycle's.

Foolsgold74 · 21/05/2025 16:05

Newbutoldfather · 21/05/2025 15:52

@BeNiceWhenItsFinished ,

Try not to ignore what I wrote in brackets, ‘or any other woman for that matter if she can logically explain it to me in a way that makes sense’ ,or the linked article, written by a woman, which supports what I read.

It is a parents’ forum and I am a parent who has been on in excess of a decade, so my comment has equal value to anyone else’s.

Your comment has zero value when it's women discussing their experience as a woman. I'm not sure how that's such a difficult concept to grasp.

RanchRat · 21/05/2025 16:04

I am too old now to take a hit, so I gallop around town with my walking pole making a lot of clattering noise and keeping to a straight line with a thousand yard stare. I don’t get barged any more.

years ago. I was walking with my dog, wall hugging. A young bloke charged round the corner and tried to barge me. Instead, he barged my German shepherd - his fucking face.

CassandraWebb · 21/05/2025 16:03

Newbutoldfather · 21/05/2025 15:11

@Foolsgold74 ,

Well, yes, I am.

But not because I am a man or because I am ‘mansplaining’ , but because I have made a logical argument. Anyone can do that, in the same way as a female doctor is not femmesplaining when she talks about prostate cancer or penile issues (or any other woman for that matter if she can logically explain it to me in a way that makes sense).

I hate this identity stuff. Anyone can make a logic and evidence based argument about anything, regardless of lived experience.

And as for ‘all these women’, many women have also disagreed with your opinion on here saying that your observations don’t concur with their observations and that women are just as bad.

Is confirmation bias real? What actual objective evidence do you have that men get out of the way less than women?

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2015/jan/12/manslamming-men-more-likely-to-bump-into-people

It's not "mansplaining" if you are an expert on it any more than it is "femmesplaining"

If you are going to try and mansplain mansplaining to us, at least make sure you have a basic grasp of the concept.

Although I guess we can thank you for demonstrating how it works so perfectly

Foolsgold74 · 21/05/2025 16:03

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 21/05/2025 15:26

A female doctor is not 'femmesplaining' if they know more about something than someone else does. Which in the case of a doctor / patient consultation is blindingly obvious.

This is a forum occupied almost entirely by women who are quite happily agreeing or disagreeing amongst themselves. Nobody needs a man to come along and tell us whether we are right or wrong.

The actual evidence I have of men getting out of the way less than women do is not from confirmation bias, but from my lived experience as a woman. No man can experience that. So please kindly bugger off and leave the topic to women who actually do know what we are talking about.

Amen to that.

Hillfarmer · 21/05/2025 16:02

Newbutoldfather · 21/05/2025 15:52

@BeNiceWhenItsFinished ,

Try not to ignore what I wrote in brackets, ‘or any other woman for that matter if she can logically explain it to me in a way that makes sense’ ,or the linked article, written by a woman, which supports what I read.

It is a parents’ forum and I am a parent who has been on in excess of a decade, so my comment has equal value to anyone else’s.

YAWN. The clue is in the name.