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Men DO NOT have right of way!

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CalmDownCats · 20/05/2025 23:24

Has anyone else noticed this?

Since around my mid-40s I've noticed that, in particular older men my age or above, just barge straight towards me and expect me to get out of their way.

Since realising this seemed to actually be a thing, I now just hold my ground and keep going. I sometimes even get silly, smirky looks from them as they go around me, as if they know exactly what they are doing.

It's usually older guys, never really younger ones.

Is this just me or does it happen to others too? Is it something that's always happened to middle aged ladies or just a sign of the times?

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HopeThisChanges · 21/05/2025 05:47

patriarchy chicken for the win. I think of it as a public service for the next generation.

Slothtoes · 21/05/2025 05:46

SallyDraperGetInHere · 20/05/2025 23:54

I’ve been known to say deadpan to brusque, pushy men ‘no-no, you go ahead, you look very important.’

Genius! I’m going to borrow this Grin

PandorasBox7 · 21/05/2025 05:44

CalmDownCats · 20/05/2025 23:24

Has anyone else noticed this?

Since around my mid-40s I've noticed that, in particular older men my age or above, just barge straight towards me and expect me to get out of their way.

Since realising this seemed to actually be a thing, I now just hold my ground and keep going. I sometimes even get silly, smirky looks from them as they go around me, as if they know exactly what they are doing.

It's usually older guys, never really younger ones.

Is this just me or does it happen to others too? Is it something that's always happened to middle aged ladies or just a sign of the times?

Yes and the older the man the more entitled they are. I am speaking as an older woman btw

HeatwaveToNightshade · 21/05/2025 05:42

I guess part of the problem is that men don’t feel as useful anymore. They used to step out of our way, hold doors open for us and generally make space for us. But we have told them we don’t want to be patronised and they feel redundant, poor souls. And now that they don’t automatically get to feel all useful and manly and superior, it’s OUR fault and they’re saying ‘well, if that’s how you want to play it …’

If men want you to have something they think you need, you better bloody well take it and smile while you’re doing it, or suffer the consequences.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 21/05/2025 05:11

Dunnop · 21/05/2025 01:18

I knew patriarchy chicken was a thing, but have also notice (along with some female colleagues and friends) men on their own in supermarkets gently nudging their trolley into your arse at the checkout and keep doing it to see how long you notice. Anyone else?

Eh?! Thankfully, I’ve never experienced this.

1SillySossij · 21/05/2025 04:48

If you look hard at where you want to go, people instinctively move out of your way (unless they are self-absorbed teens) Even if they are male.

YehRight · 21/05/2025 04:46

What I notice is that men tend to do the thing of "OK, I'm taking this line" so the other person knows their trajectory - usually whoever makes it clear first continues on that line and the other bloke directs himself accordingly. It's like the first guy says "I'm going left" and the other says "OK, I'll go right then".

Some women do this too but a lot seem to dither along in their own little world if I'm honest and you end up doing the old line dance where you both step to the left and then to the right before one of you stops and let's the other walk around you with an awkward smile. The matriarchy line dance. 🤣

LoveFridaynight · 21/05/2025 04:22

You don't ever move out of the way? You are in their way just as much they are in yours.

YehRight · 21/05/2025 04:13

Can't say I've had this problem. I mean, you can't just walk into people whilst complaining about other people doing the exact same thing. 🤣

Flossflower · 21/05/2025 02:56

JohnTheRevelator · 21/05/2025 00:21

And don't get me started on cyclists on the pavement who expect you to jump out of their bastarding way. I had some twat effing and blinding at me because I wouldn't move into the (busy) road so he could get past. Fucking arsehole. I'm not walking on the road for ANY cyclist.

I often walk in the countryside but at the start of the walk it is generally roads. When I go out for a walk, I always take a walking pole with me mostly to aid me going up hills and also because I don’t like random dogs jumping up at me.
At the start of one walk, a man cycled really fast straight at me. He was expecting me to jump off the narrow pavement on to the road except I pointed my pole, with its metal point at the end, straight at him and he came to a screeching halt.
There then followed a stand off where he refused to go into the road and so did I. He eventually moved. There were no cars in this road but his excuse for using the pavement was that it was easier to get to the path he wanted to cycle on from the pavement. This was a path that said no cycling!

Dunnop · 21/05/2025 01:18

I knew patriarchy chicken was a thing, but have also notice (along with some female colleagues and friends) men on their own in supermarkets gently nudging their trolley into your arse at the checkout and keep doing it to see how long you notice. Anyone else?

DdraigGoch · 21/05/2025 00:59

or just a sign of the times?
If it were a sign of the times, wouldn't it be the young men who were doing it?

Kerantli · 21/05/2025 00:52

CassandraWebb · 20/05/2025 23:54

They even play it with me when I am in my wheelchair/ using my stick Angry

And me when I have my rollator or sticks, or if they see said rollator/sticks, they then roll their eyes and huff and walk directly into DP.
I keep saying that I need to get a sign saying "You can move out of my way faster than I can move out of yours, so MOVE!", but then I remember people don't read.
I will however, gladly move to the side and wait for someone with a pram, wheelchair, and older people with their own mobility devices on narrow paths, women thank me, men just ignore me.

IShouldNotCoco · 21/05/2025 00:30

SallyDraperGetInHere · 20/05/2025 23:54

I’ve been known to say deadpan to brusque, pushy men ‘no-no, you go ahead, you look very important.’

Haha - love it 🤣

PickAChew · 21/05/2025 00:26

JohnTheRevelator · 21/05/2025 00:21

And don't get me started on cyclists on the pavement who expect you to jump out of their bastarding way. I had some twat effing and blinding at me because I wouldn't move into the (busy) road so he could get past. Fucking arsehole. I'm not walking on the road for ANY cyclist.

Even worse when they come up behind you and expect you not to be in their way by mere telepathy.

IShouldNotCoco · 21/05/2025 00:25

I saw another thread about this on MN not so long ago where the OP was theorising that men are angry about the fact that we aren’t willing to put up with their sh*t anymore.

VeganStar · 21/05/2025 00:22

That’s where a mobile comes in handy. If I think someone isn’t going to give way I stop in my tracks and pull my phone out and stare at it as if I’ve just received a message then continue to gaze at my phone and chuckle to myself at the sound of them huffing as they are the ones forced to step aside.
A man of around 35 was bombing toward me last week expecting me to get out the way. I did the phone thing and the aggression emanating from him was tangible. I’m glad there was people around.
Who do they think they are to expect us to make way for them.
Entitled much!!!

JohnTheRevelator · 21/05/2025 00:21

And don't get me started on cyclists on the pavement who expect you to jump out of their bastarding way. I had some twat effing and blinding at me because I wouldn't move into the (busy) road so he could get past. Fucking arsehole. I'm not walking on the road for ANY cyclist.

JohnTheRevelator · 21/05/2025 00:18

Tell me about it. I get this all the time. I can guarantee that if I'm walking on a narrow stretch of pavement and a man of a certain age is walking towards me,not only will he expect me (as a disabled person with walking sticks) to move out of his way,he will often deliberately move onto the same side that I am on. Then if I move to the other side,they move back again! I think it's some sort of power game. Which I refuse to partake in any more. I just stay where I am,and if they don't eventually move over,realising that I'M not going to (99% of them do move!) I just stop dead and they go round me! I've had it up to here with men and their shit.

VoltaireMittyDream · 21/05/2025 00:04

Actually now that I think about it, hand-holding couples are the fucking worst

NPET · 21/05/2025 00:04

I've always noticed this, but as I've "developed" into what older men call "a babe" (sorry but I get called that), I've realised that I can use that to my advantage and plough straight through them. They'll happily make way because they think (incorrectly) that they can therefore smile at me, look at me, even hit on me.
WHICH I KNOW ISN'T HOW IT SHOULD BE but I have to use what I've got and if I can use it to make men look stupid, so be it!!

romany4 · 21/05/2025 00:03

I didn't know it was called Patriarchy chicken.
I've always called it human Jenga!

I'm only 5 ft 4 and I've noticed people expect me to move. Nope. I'm menopausal and pissed off most of the time. I don't move for anyone!

VoltaireMittyDream · 21/05/2025 00:02

I only notice this in the UK, where pavements are stupidly narrow. It brings out the worst in everyone. Men often won’t move at all to make space for anyone, women often flatten themselves against walls or fling themselves into incoming traffic and say ‘YOU’RE WELCOME’ really passive aggressively even when you’ve moved over and there is ample space for you to pass one another.

I just hate walking amongst other people in this country.

tipsyraven · 21/05/2025 00:02

It’s not just men, though they are the worst, but I’ve had it happen with young women. I stand my ground on the whole. Sometimes I just stop and they are forced to go round me.

alianangel · 20/05/2025 23:59

I do like a bit of patriarchy chicken. I tend to look forward into the distance and find if they don’t think you’ve seen them then they are more likely to move aside. If they don’t move aside, I won’t either.