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Men DO NOT have right of way!

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CalmDownCats · 20/05/2025 23:24

Has anyone else noticed this?

Since around my mid-40s I've noticed that, in particular older men my age or above, just barge straight towards me and expect me to get out of their way.

Since realising this seemed to actually be a thing, I now just hold my ground and keep going. I sometimes even get silly, smirky looks from them as they go around me, as if they know exactly what they are doing.

It's usually older guys, never really younger ones.

Is this just me or does it happen to others too? Is it something that's always happened to middle aged ladies or just a sign of the times?

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Eccythumpy · 21/05/2025 07:31

I play it walking my dog. He is a big lad and moves for no fucker. Very satisfying.

Angelofmycoins · 21/05/2025 07:30

SallyDraperGetInHere · 20/05/2025 23:54

I’ve been known to say deadpan to brusque, pushy men ‘no-no, you go ahead, you look very important.’

I said a very sarcastic "thank you so much" to a man who barged in front of me onto tube carriage.

Turned out we were the only 2 in there. He grinned and said "its dog eat dog, luv!"

We actually struck up a convo and he was an ok bloke. Just generally hadn't realised what he was being like.

Bobolonson · 21/05/2025 07:30

MJxJones · 21/05/2025 07:15

That sounds like you were trying to get on the train while he was trying to get off?

No, it doesn’t.

The poster said she was trying to get into the train station,and a guy tried to walk through her.

So presumably the encounter happened once he’d already got off his train or whatever and was now coming out the station.

CoughCoughLaugh · 21/05/2025 07:29

I'm not a man, or a male apologist, but surely if 2 individual people (obvious disabilities excepted) are walking in opposite directions, irrespective of sex, then neither of you have the right of way or should assume the other is playing some sort of game? Or do we just expect men to make way for women? Surely then we are setting feminism back? Maybe the man was thinking, "Bloody women, always expecting me to swerve round them, well, they want to be equal, so they can move out of my way today, I'm grumpy!" If women can be tired / fed-up / menopausal / in a rush, then we have to accept that men can have valid excuses too. And also, all the "hidden disability" arguments are a bit poor too, men have them too.

What I DO find annoying is our local park is near a college and a busy urban area and what I do find is groups of three or four people ambling along taking up the full path. On some of the paths there are flower beds either side of the path. Erm, Where do you want me to go? For those groups, I stay left and keep walking. I've only once not had someone budge over a bit. And I have to admit, that was a man in his late teens / early 20's who did know what he was doing as he was looking me straight in the eye. I just kept looking at him, right until my right shoulder made me some space.

AsTreesWalking · 21/05/2025 07:28

It's annoyed me for a while- even happens with the girls at school (no quarter given by me), but what makes me absolutely RAGE is when I'm helping my disabled husband to walk and selfish idiots expect us to get out of the way.

pinkfloralcurtains · 21/05/2025 07:28

TiredCatLady · 21/05/2025 07:03

I’m surprised you’re only noticing it now. It’s definitely younger men/teenagers as well.

There’s a really scary social media trend called butsukari otoko which is essentially men deliberately shoulder barging women with the intent to surprise or hurt, which is starting to appear in London. Apparently originated in Japan.

Buidheachas · 21/05/2025 07:26

And when a male female couple finally realise I am not giving way it is always always the female who steps to one side...

Bobolonson · 21/05/2025 07:25

SapporoBaby · 21/05/2025 05:49

I just turned 30 but have noticed this my whole adulthood. One man physically picked me up once and put me in the road! That was extra shocking.

That’s crazy - what happened next? That’s assault surely?

SqueamishHamish · 21/05/2025 07:24

This is so funny, I thought I was the only one this happened too. I even commented to my husband about it a couple of weeks ago. Prompted me to buy the book Hags which I am still to read.

Flossflower · 21/05/2025 07:22

Olderkids · 21/05/2025 06:38

‘There’s no right of way on a pavement’.
I have been puzzling over this for ages. I am sure we were always taught to keep left back in the day?
I always keep left when walking but am amazed at how many people insist on keeping right when walking in the opposite direction and expect me to move over.
AIBU?

Yes most pavements will fit 2 people passing on it. I too keep left but won’t give way to people who won’t walk single file.

LegoTherapy · 21/05/2025 07:20

I like a game of this on the school run. It’s also fun on trains when most of the men in aisle seats man spread. I just barrel down the aisle and take out their knees. Your bollocks aren’t that big love that you need to take up half the aisle with your leg. I get some shocked looks but I always have my sunglasses on and often headphones too and just keep going. They can see that the train has just pulled into a station and people are moving about the carriage but they don’t think to shift themselves.
Recently on a train a guy had a reserved seat at the table I was sat at with my 2 dc. The train was half empty but he sat there and proceeded to spread out his laptop, travel mug and peanut butter sandwiches. He was opposite me and his travel mug was placed on my side. The ticket guy came round and I reached out for something and knocked his travel mug in the process-whoopsadaisy-and he then moved it. Arsehole.
men on bikes 🚲 on the pavement and I refuse to move.

IButtleSir · 21/05/2025 07:20

I've been playing patriarchy chicken since I was knee-high to a grasshopper! I find men are surprisingly scared of small, angry-looking women who walk straight at them.

HeatwaveToNightshade · 21/05/2025 07:19

NeonUnicorn · 21/05/2025 07:11

They probably think they have to because to give way to anyone is to bow to the patriarchy...

Anyone? Surely you mean men? It’s hardly bowing to the patriarchy to give way to a woman. Some posters on here just don’t like older women. ‘They’ - these older women - are seemingly all the same. It’s almost a meme on here.

FigTreeInEurope · 21/05/2025 07:16

I used to live on a canal boat, and would watch people on the busy towpath for hours. I think it's more that people are totally unaware of their surroundings. I've watched people walk straight into gates, trip over ropes, have head long collisions with bikes, simply because they weren't looking, or lost in their own heads.

MJxJones · 21/05/2025 07:15

moleeye · 21/05/2025 07:09

This literally happened to me yesterday. I was walking through a door at the train station and a guy (mid 20’s maybe) tried to walk through me. Nope. I just carried on with my laptop and bag and walked into him.

lots of swearing from him but I just carried on and got on my train. Didn’t acknowledge him or even turn around

nope, not today!

That sounds like you were trying to get on the train while he was trying to get off?

midlifeish · 21/05/2025 07:15

Just seen this post. Think it's a good one for you. The patriarchy is everywhere : www.instagram.com/reel/DJ5Doq8h3aw/?igsh=MTkydHF6ZTZ5Yzd0cA==

Easipeelerie · 21/05/2025 07:15

I’ve never noticed this as a gender thing. What I do notice is that most people are oblivious and entitled and some people are not. So if I’m walking somewhere busy, I am very likely to zigzag around and most people manage to largely walk in a straight line.

72bapsconnie · 21/05/2025 07:15

This happens to me all the time. It drives me mad! They do it in cars, on bikes….. yesterday on the towpath a man just ran at me and past a couple of much older ladies and I really wanted to stand my ground and not move our of his way, but I thought one of the women involved would end up in the canal! It’s so maddening

Ohnonotagainmrswebster · 21/05/2025 07:14

EBearhug · 20/05/2025 23:54

I was playing patriarchy chicken at work one day, and Dave eventually stopped, right in front of me, and said, "oh, I thought you were going to hug me." Why would you think that? Especially in the middle if the main, busy corridor at work? I was just walking on the left, because that was the rule at school.

Oh my god I thought it was just me who followed the keep left rule! It was a rule at school and I always follow it. I always try and make people walk around me.

Longtimeloiterer · 21/05/2025 07:13

My DH is short and idiots try it on with him when he's pushing me in my wheelchair chair.

He's of the "No surrender" mentality which is interesting sometimes. It also works with groups of people hogging the pavement.

NeonUnicorn · 21/05/2025 07:11

Sofiewoo · 21/05/2025 07:07

I actually find it’s always older middle aged women who do this to me.

They probably think they have to because to give way to anyone is to bow to the patriarchy...

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 21/05/2025 07:10

Men have been doing this my entire life. I am ugly though so that may be why.

MidnightPatrol · 21/05/2025 07:09

I haven’t noticed this, but I have noticed on my morning commute that increasingly men will barge anyone else out of the way (elderly, pregnant etc) to get a seat.

Often the doors will open and the same guy I see will push on first to ensure he gets a seat. Must be in his mid twenties.

I also had to travel to and through a large airport recently with a buggy and luggage - and got knocked out of the way repeatedly by men (who looked like they were going to work). It was very bizarre. Trying to get on the train, out the barriers - definitely no help, but people pushing in front of me.

moleeye · 21/05/2025 07:09

This literally happened to me yesterday. I was walking through a door at the train station and a guy (mid 20’s maybe) tried to walk through me. Nope. I just carried on with my laptop and bag and walked into him.

lots of swearing from him but I just carried on and got on my train. Didn’t acknowledge him or even turn around

nope, not today!

bruffin · 21/05/2025 07:07

NeonUnicorn · 21/05/2025 06:46

Just what I was thinking! I've seen patriarchy chicken mentioned on here before. I must live in an excessively polite area because I've still never noticed it. Or maybe I just lack this weird determination to walk in a straight line so it doesn't bother me...

Exactly what i was thinking. A game takes too participants and the OP and those complaining are obiously just as bad as the men they are complaining about.
I have found most of the time i move slightly to left the person coming at me moves slightly to their side and no problem.
I have been deliberately barged by the odd teenage girl when i have moved to the side a few times