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For not dating an unemployed man?

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Butterfly789 · 20/05/2025 22:53

Just need some validation that I’m not a complete heartless cow!

I recently met a man via online dating and we have been chatting for a few weeks (haven’t met up yet). At first, he was a bit vague about what his job was, but eventually admitted he’s unemployed due to an accident he had 5 years ago. He says he’s unable to work because of this. I was a bit apprehensive, but carried on talking to him and arranged a date, as he’s actually really lovely and I enjoy speaking to him. This was until today when I had a bit of a ‘what am I doing?’ moment and decided this man isn’t for me. I told him this (in a diplomatic way) and he didn’t take it very well.

For context - I am 28, have a well paid professional job, am a homeowner and have a 3 year old. He is 10 years older than me, lives in council housing and as I previously mentioned, is unemployed.

Am I just being a massive snob? As I said, he’s a really lovely man, I’m just not sure how it would work with us having such different lifestyles!

OP posts:
Comtesse · 21/05/2025 09:47

Etaerio · 21/05/2025 08:19

Another one who misses the point completely. Try reading my post again. In context. And think! Thinking's SO important!

Oh please. A man who was a single parent with his own house would be unlikely to get involved a woman who was 10 years older and who didn’t work. He would be reasonable to swerve as is OP.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:46

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:41

She is not being unreasonable for declining to go on a date with a man she's never met.

You are being unreasonable for thinking she isn't really in the right for declining for any reason at all, or that she owes this total stranger any time for any reason. It's just a form of coercion. "You don't HAVE to but you're unreasonable not to..."

It's not coercion at all, don't be silly. She's asked for an opinion, mine is that for her own sake, she would be more sensible to find out a bit more about him in these circumstances. She can always call a halt later. In all cases, not only on the subject of who one dates and who one doesn't, I err on the side of as long as there's no cost to it, find out as much as you can before dismissing something. I find calling a halt to things before you have as many of the available facts as you can to be unreasonable, viz, not guided by good reasoning.

Your opinion differs. That's fine. I think you're wrong. You think I am wrong.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 21/05/2025 09:46

I wouldn’t date him either. It’s not being snobby or judgemental to want to be with someone on equal terms.

Nightmarketz · 21/05/2025 09:44

Butterfly789 · 20/05/2025 23:06

Just to make it clear - it’s not anything to do with him being disabled! More the fact that I know if things went further with him I would be the sole earner. I’m not sure this is a great idea considering I am also a mum

No you’re not BU. This is a smart decision.

And to be fair someone might not want to date you because you already had a kid and they’d see them as an extra mouth to feed if things got serious which is equally fair. As well as all the other challenges dating people with kids can present.

I typically didn’t date men with kids for this and other reasons. When I was dating I met single /divorced fathers who were keen to know if I earned much /as much as them, despite the fact if we lived together a chunk of our household money would be diverted out the household (and rightly so) to their kids.

Anyway I digress, point is we are allowed to make reasonable judgements and do the best we can for us and our loved ones before we enter into any kind of relationships - especially serious ones which may result in joining finances/households.

EdithBond · 21/05/2025 09:44

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:29

Of course she doesn't. She doesn't owe him anything.

It's still unreasonable to decide not to learn more about someone because of something like this, as there are many factors that could render it trivial.

Unreasonable is defined as "not guided by or based on good sense." Something can be unreasonable and also perfectly acceptable.

If I decide not to go to the shop today because I'm afraid I might be run over by a runaway horse, that's unreasonable, but acceptable.

Exactly. We’re all entitled to have preferences.

But in some cases most reasonable people may find those preferences unreasonable.

Also, we can feel someone doesn’t match our preferences without feeling or appearing superior. For example, it’s reasonable to want to be in a relationship with a financial equal. But it’s unreasonable to tell them ‘You don’t have enough money for me’, ‘I have much more money than you’ or ‘I’m worried you’ll expect me to finance you’. That’s when judgement and superiority can creep in.

2JFDIYOLO · 21/05/2025 09:43

👉" HE DIDNT TAKE IT WELL"👈

There you go.

"Mmmmmmmm, ten years younger than me, ✔️own home, ✔️own income, ✔️used to looking after a dependent ✔️... I'm in!

All I have to do is perform nicely on a few dates and bingo I can move in, go on enjoying my lifestyle, not have to get a job, be looked after, especially when I'm older - the perfect nurse with a purse! 👏👏👏

Wait - what? Huh? What do you mean ... NO?! You're not supposed to know that word!"

Rule of Misogyny number 2: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.

Mauvehoodie · 21/05/2025 09:43

Of course YANBU. This is OLD, you don't owe anyone anything and the slightest hint of something not being quite right (particularly the disconnect between him not working due to an accident but seeming to live a very full and active life) and I'd be off tbh. It's not the time or place to be try and "be kind". I'd encourage everyone doing OLD to be seriously picky. It's so easy for men to pull the wool over your eyes about aspects of their life when you don't have any friends etc in common so very little context for that person.

What he has shown isn't for you so you're right to walk away and particularly because you have a child to think of.

Viviennemary · 21/05/2025 09:43

I think it is wise not to commit yourself to being the sole earner for whatever reason.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:41

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:37

Yes, she's allowed to. How often do I have to say that?

She's allowed to, but I don't think her choice not to is being guided by good reasons. Therefore, unreasonable.

She is not being unreasonable for declining to go on a date with a man she's never met.

You are being unreasonable for thinking she isn't really in the right for declining for any reason at all, or that she owes this total stranger any time for any reason. It's just a form of coercion. "You don't HAVE to but you're unreasonable not to..."

Yatuway · 21/05/2025 09:41

Hwi · 21/05/2025 09:13

Absolutely! No question! Only not as high as she herself thinks.

Bit daft to come out with that when not only has OP not said where she thinks she ranks, but you don't even know what she looks like.

TheHerboriste · 21/05/2025 09:40

Grammarninja · 21/05/2025 09:36

He's had 5 years to train at something that he can do with a physical disability. He has chosen not to. That says something about him and his plans for the future.

Exactly.
Where is his hustle and ambition?

If he’s able enough to be out & about so much, he’s able enough to work at something. Or volunteer. To add something to the world.

MikeRafone · 21/05/2025 09:38

I’m just not sure how it would work with us having such different lifestyles!

thats the crux of it

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:37

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:36

It's still unreasonable to decide not to learn more about someone because of something like this,

Of course it bloody isn't. If I spent my life learning more about every bloody stranger I spoke to I'd never do anything else. She's allowed to refuse to date him. If it turns out that he's actually a incredible catch and she's a loser who'll never get a chance to date a man that fabulous ever again, then so be it; it's a risk we all have to take every time we decide we don't find someone compatible.

Yes, she's allowed to. How often do I have to say that?

She's allowed to, but I don't think her choice not to is being guided by good reasons. Therefore, unreasonable.

TheHerboriste · 21/05/2025 09:36

Catandsquirrel · 21/05/2025 09:30

No it isn't. It's not about her decision, it's about the continued tidbits she keeps dropping about what people shouldn't be able to do to keep up appearances whilst not working. Exercise, seeing friends, going to a football match. None of these things necessarily mean he is well enough to work at the minute. Nobody knows what his capabilities or plans are. She certainly doesn't.

Oh, please. I worked with a man who had both feet amputated below the knee, in his 50s, AND had kidney failure. He was a newspaper reporter who would routinely have to leave the office (using a cane and prosthetic feet) to conduct interviews. He never complained.

So yeah, in my book, some gadabout in his 30s with the energy to exercise and attend matches could also find something productive to do. I couldn’t respect anyone who milked an “injury” for years on end.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:36

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:29

Of course she doesn't. She doesn't owe him anything.

It's still unreasonable to decide not to learn more about someone because of something like this, as there are many factors that could render it trivial.

Unreasonable is defined as "not guided by or based on good sense." Something can be unreasonable and also perfectly acceptable.

If I decide not to go to the shop today because I'm afraid I might be run over by a runaway horse, that's unreasonable, but acceptable.

It's still unreasonable to decide not to learn more about someone because of something like this,

Of course it bloody isn't. If I spent my life learning more about every bloody stranger I spoke to I'd never do anything else. She's allowed to refuse to date him. If it turns out that he's actually a incredible catch and she's a loser who'll never get a chance to date a man that fabulous ever again, then so be it; it's a risk we all have to take every time we decide we don't find someone compatible.

Grammarninja · 21/05/2025 09:36

ARichtGoodDram · 20/05/2025 22:59

I told him this (in a diplomatic way) and he didn’t take it very well

How did you expect someone to take "I'm ditching you because you got disabled by an accident at work" exactly?

It's good for him that you did though. He most likely deserves someone considerably less snooty and judgemental.

He's had 5 years to train at something that he can do with a physical disability. He has chosen not to. That says something about him and his plans for the future.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:31

TheHerboriste · 21/05/2025 09:31

Oh, please.

Being unappealing to a complete stranger as a dating prospect doesn’t mean he is “worthless.”

She’s not obliged to pity-date anyone. Women are allowed to have standards.

Please read the post I replied to.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:31

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:27

Not wanting to date someone doesn't mean you think they're worthless, it means you don't want to date them!

Wow OP, is this what dating is like now for young women? Sounds bloody awful.

The person I replied to said "what has he got to offer your child and you", therefore making a judgement that he is worthless. I was replying to them, not the OP.
The OP can do what they like.

TheHerboriste · 21/05/2025 09:31

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:23

Maybe he got a 20 million pound payout from the company he worked for and could offer them that.
Is the fact that someone isn't working due to injury, with no other knowledge of their circumstances except that, sufficient for you to dismiss them entirely as worthless?

Edited

Oh, please.

Being unappealing to a complete stranger as a dating prospect doesn’t mean he is “worthless.”

She’s not obliged to pity-date anyone. Women are allowed to have standards.

SunshineAndFizz · 21/05/2025 09:30

I would do the same thing you’ve done. Sensible decision.

Zov · 21/05/2025 09:30

Moveoverdarlin · 20/05/2025 23:33

You’re not a cow - it’s called having standards. When I was dating my must haves were job, home, car, no kids, no mental ex still knocking about, non smoker. Everything else was flexible but those were my must haves.

I imagine the dating pool was pretty small and shallow if you had all these 'mustn't haves.' No kids and no exes is a big ask once people are over 30. (Unless you're talking about when you were younger/first looking for a partner...) Up to you though. I guess we are all entitled to our opinions. Smile

I wouldn't want to be with a man who couldn't drive (whether it was by choice or necessity,) or if he smoked, and any weed smokers, I wouldn't entertain for a split second. Also I wouldn't want any gym bunnies, or anyone obsessed with any sport. And I definitely wouldn't date a man with no job/a man who didn't work. (Again, whether it was by choice, or out of necessity.)

Catandsquirrel · 21/05/2025 09:30

LilacReader · 21/05/2025 09:13

That is a horrible comment to the OP. She has already said that it's not the disability that is the issue, more the fact that she has a child and they are her priority financially and all other ways.
Also, if he is out at the gym, with friends etc. then she has probably lost a bit of respect for him too if he is able to work.
I currently am on the dating scene and I don't want to get into a relationship with someone unemployed. For me, I just about have the time and money to look after me and my sons and couldn't afford to look after anyone else - does that make me a bad person too?

No it isn't. It's not about her decision, it's about the continued tidbits she keeps dropping about what people shouldn't be able to do to keep up appearances whilst not working. Exercise, seeing friends, going to a football match. None of these things necessarily mean he is well enough to work at the minute. Nobody knows what his capabilities or plans are. She certainly doesn't.

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:29

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:25

She doesn't have to meet up with him! She doesn't owe him a date!

Of course she doesn't. She doesn't owe him anything.

It's still unreasonable to decide not to learn more about someone because of something like this, as there are many factors that could render it trivial.

Unreasonable is defined as "not guided by or based on good sense." Something can be unreasonable and also perfectly acceptable.

If I decide not to go to the shop today because I'm afraid I might be run over by a runaway horse, that's unreasonable, but acceptable.

tartancarpetslippers · 21/05/2025 09:27

However, she's not prepared to do that because the one piece of information she has - that he doesn't work at the moment due to injury - trumps everything else she could possibly learn about him.

At the moment? For the last five years.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:27

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:23

Maybe he got a 20 million pound payout from the company he worked for and could offer them that.
Is the fact that someone isn't working due to injury, with no other knowledge of their circumstances except that, sufficient for you to dismiss them entirely as worthless?

Edited

Not wanting to date someone doesn't mean you think they're worthless, it means you don't want to date them!

Wow OP, is this what dating is like now for young women? Sounds bloody awful.