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For not dating an unemployed man?

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Butterfly789 · 20/05/2025 22:53

Just need some validation that I’m not a complete heartless cow!

I recently met a man via online dating and we have been chatting for a few weeks (haven’t met up yet). At first, he was a bit vague about what his job was, but eventually admitted he’s unemployed due to an accident he had 5 years ago. He says he’s unable to work because of this. I was a bit apprehensive, but carried on talking to him and arranged a date, as he’s actually really lovely and I enjoy speaking to him. This was until today when I had a bit of a ‘what am I doing?’ moment and decided this man isn’t for me. I told him this (in a diplomatic way) and he didn’t take it very well.

For context - I am 28, have a well paid professional job, am a homeowner and have a 3 year old. He is 10 years older than me, lives in council housing and as I previously mentioned, is unemployed.

Am I just being a massive snob? As I said, he’s a really lovely man, I’m just not sure how it would work with us having such different lifestyles!

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Strawberriesforever · 21/05/2025 10:01

EdithBond · 21/05/2025 09:44

Exactly. We’re all entitled to have preferences.

But in some cases most reasonable people may find those preferences unreasonable.

Also, we can feel someone doesn’t match our preferences without feeling or appearing superior. For example, it’s reasonable to want to be in a relationship with a financial equal. But it’s unreasonable to tell them ‘You don’t have enough money for me’, ‘I have much more money than you’ or ‘I’m worried you’ll expect me to finance you’. That’s when judgement and superiority can creep in.

No, avoiding saying those things explicitly is just tact.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 10:01

EdithBond · 21/05/2025 09:56

Because there’s assumption and judgement.

It’s possible to be in a relationship with someone without them being financially dependent on you.

But a financial equal is reasonable because that can affect lifestyle. For example, if you have enough money to travel frequently, and you enjoy doing so, then you wouldn’t be able to travel with them unless you paid (as they may not be able to afford it). In some couples, that’d be fine, as the person with more money would travel alone or with friends, the same as if they were single, with maybe one holiday a year with their partner, which they both equally paid for. But in other cases, it’d cause resentment or they’d prefer to travel frequently with a partner.

It’s possible to be in a relationship with someone without them being financially dependent on you.

Yes, I think OP knows this and that's the kind of relationship she wants. A guy with no income is far more likely to become a financial dependent and it's not as if he became ill after they were in an established relationship. And the rest of your post is just further explanation of precisely why she should indeed seek a financial equal and he's not it.

It's interesting how people can understand the importance of financial equality but think it doesn't apply to a young solvent woman who was asked out by a man ten years older with no income. Take what you will from that, OP.

Springtime43 · 21/05/2025 10:01

When i was last single, I had my own home, a decent job, and I scrub-up ok. I wanted someone similar. Nothing wrong with that.

autumn1610 · 21/05/2025 10:00

Dweetfidilove · 21/05/2025 08:51

But isn't this what dating is? Gathering information to see if you are compatible?

He opened up to her, as he should - then she processes the information to see whether it fits what she wants or not. He'd be an absolute dick to hide such crucial information until she's fallen for him. And she'd be an absolute dick to be having 2nd and 3rd dates with someone who for her, is an unsuitable candidate.

Yeah it is what dating is but if you think being unemployed is a no factor just don’t go on the date, you process it before the date or call the date off in my opinion. You can date who you want and you don’t need a valid reason to never see them again, but even if that was my reason I wouldn’t be telling him that was it. Just seems a bit harsh to me. That’s why my opinion is more based on when the information was given before the date or during/after the first date

Nsky62 · 21/05/2025 09:58

Carodebalo · 21/05/2025 06:28

I completely understand why you do not want to date this man. You are sensible and thinking of yourself and your daughter first. I also wonder why he can’t work at all. Of course it is completely his right to live his life the way he wants to live it, but it is also your right not to chose a man like him as your partner. I definitely would not be interested!

If the accident is fairly mild, then going back to a suitable job, should be an aim, the sort the government wants back into work.
Its not a life limiting illness, like lots have, wise to be cautious.
You could have progressed things, and stated clearly your thoughts on the job situation, and made things clear to him.
I totally understand the disability bit tho

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:58

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:53

This is a risk I think OP can afford to take.

Of course she can. It's entirely up to her.

Doesn't mean I can't consider it unreasonable because she could eliminate that risk by finding out more.

"Unreasonable" doesn't mean "bad". This is a case where I believe it's potentially a problem for her own sake As I have said already many times, it's not about owing him anything. It's about her potentially missing opportunities due to making judgements on limited evidence. That's unreasonable behaviour to me.

Nightmarketz · 21/05/2025 09:57

MargoLivebetter · 21/05/2025 09:50

@Nightmarketz I would say you are also "allowed" to make entirely unreasonable judgements about why you don't want to date a complete stranger too!

I think we can make any decision we like about this and shouldn't have to justify it to anyone. We owe strangers off the internet absolutely nothing.

That doesn't mean we have to be rude or disrespectful but no one has to date anyone they don't want to and it doesn't matter why they don't want to, all that matters is that they don't want to.

In these situations "No" is a complete sentence and doesn't require justification.

That’s true! You don’t owe anyone a date.

I’m sure many men don’t want to date me (or any other women) for reasons that may be unreasonable to me and that’s allowed.

People reject others on the basis of all kinds of things all the time.

WeAllHaveWings · 21/05/2025 09:57

Butterfly789 · 20/05/2025 23:06

Just to make it clear - it’s not anything to do with him being disabled! More the fact that I know if things went further with him I would be the sole earner. I’m not sure this is a great idea considering I am also a mum

This is fair, not much else needs said. You have a dependent already that you have to prioritise.

EdithBond · 21/05/2025 09:56

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:47

it’s unreasonable to tell them ‘You don’t have enough money for me’, ‘I have much more money than you’ or ‘I’m worried you’ll expect me to finance you’

How is any of that any different to wanting a "financial equal"? OP isn't looking to be kept, she just doesn't want a financial dependent.

Because there’s assumption and judgement.

It’s possible to be in a relationship with someone without them being financially dependent on you.

But a financial equal is reasonable because that can affect lifestyle. For example, if you have enough money to travel frequently, and you enjoy doing so, then you wouldn’t be able to travel with them unless you paid (as they may not be able to afford it). In some couples, that’d be fine, as the person with more money would travel alone or with friends, the same as if they were single, with maybe one holiday a year with their partner, which they both equally paid for. But in other cases, it’d cause resentment or they’d prefer to travel frequently with a partner.

Comtesse · 21/05/2025 09:55

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:29

Of course she doesn't. She doesn't owe him anything.

It's still unreasonable to decide not to learn more about someone because of something like this, as there are many factors that could render it trivial.

Unreasonable is defined as "not guided by or based on good sense." Something can be unreasonable and also perfectly acceptable.

If I decide not to go to the shop today because I'm afraid I might be run over by a runaway horse, that's unreasonable, but acceptable.

Ok so she could spend more time learning about this guy.

Or she could conclude he’s unlikely he’s a good fit, and move on and instead spend her time on finding someone else (and avoid wasting the time of the original guy).

You call that unreasonable, but I would say she’s using her judgement and avoiding wasting her time AND his time.

PeachBlossom1234 · 21/05/2025 09:54

Just for context, I’m disabled but I still work a professional job and freelance on the side. Not working is a choice and it’s not one I could support, I want a partner who is equal to me and that means in ambition, finance and education. I wouldn’t be able to date him either OP

Sdpbody · 21/05/2025 09:54

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:49

You don't know that he claims any benefits at all.

How would you expect a man with no job to be able to pay rent and bills and live, if it wasn't for benefits?

He wouldn't have been given a council house as a single man with thousands in savings, therefore, I think we can assume, he is supported by the tax payer.

Nightmarketz · 21/05/2025 09:53

You don't know what he does. He could be just finishing the greatest novel of the 21st century but yet to send it to publishers.

lol…He better get a move on then…

seriously though, Op doesn’t need to imagine all these potential (and very unlikely scenarios) - she’s allowed to go on what she knows about him. His person is out there and so is hers. No harm no foul.

Springtime43 · 21/05/2025 09:53

I wouldn't date him OP, you are too far apart in terms of lifestyle, no matter how lovely he is.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:53

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:48

You don't know what he does. He could be just finishing the greatest novel of the 21st century but yet to send it to publishers.

This is a risk I think OP can afford to take.

SouthernFashionista · 21/05/2025 09:52

Not a chance. I couldn’t even imagine dating a non-professional man, never mind one who is long-term unemployed. You can do better.

MargoLivebetter · 21/05/2025 09:50

@Nightmarketz I would say you are also "allowed" to make entirely unreasonable judgements about why you don't want to date a complete stranger too!

I think we can make any decision we like about this and shouldn't have to justify it to anyone. We owe strangers off the internet absolutely nothing.

That doesn't mean we have to be rude or disrespectful but no one has to date anyone they don't want to and it doesn't matter why they don't want to, all that matters is that they don't want to.

In these situations "No" is a complete sentence and doesn't require justification.

HRTQueen · 21/05/2025 09:50

Of course yanbu

your choices in who and who not to date are up to you

There is absolutely nothing wrong in looking at a potential partner and thinking what do they bring to this relationship. For many being a nice person is not enough and why should it be

I would feel the same op, plenty of women are happy to take on an unequal relationship which is also fine

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:49

Sdpbody · 21/05/2025 09:48

God no!!

You are young, have a good job, own a house and have a young child.

You don't need someone weighing you down.

If he can't work, what else can't he do? He is either disabled enough that he physically can't work, and then he will be your responsibility. Or, he could work, but doesn't want to, in which he will be your responsibility.

He would lose all of his UC if he moved in with you, then you would be stuck with him if anything happened.

You don't know that he claims any benefits at all.

Legomania · 21/05/2025 09:49

Pavedaspen · 21/05/2025 09:06

That's so bigoted, it's almost funny. You do realise that many people who are highly educated are in low-paying jobs, including delivery driving, cafe and bar work, care work?
I have 3 friends with Oxbridge degrees who are on benefits.

@Pavedaspen That would be why pp said 'educated AND in good employment'

Professional working adults aren't some kind of golden unicorn; there are plenty about

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:48

TheHerboriste · 21/05/2025 09:40

Exactly.
Where is his hustle and ambition?

If he’s able enough to be out & about so much, he’s able enough to work at something. Or volunteer. To add something to the world.

You don't know what he does. He could be just finishing the greatest novel of the 21st century but yet to send it to publishers.

Sdpbody · 21/05/2025 09:48

God no!!

You are young, have a good job, own a house and have a young child.

You don't need someone weighing you down.

If he can't work, what else can't he do? He is either disabled enough that he physically can't work, and then he will be your responsibility. Or, he could work, but doesn't want to, in which he will be your responsibility.

He would lose all of his UC if he moved in with you, then you would be stuck with him if anything happened.

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:47

EdithBond · 21/05/2025 09:44

Exactly. We’re all entitled to have preferences.

But in some cases most reasonable people may find those preferences unreasonable.

Also, we can feel someone doesn’t match our preferences without feeling or appearing superior. For example, it’s reasonable to want to be in a relationship with a financial equal. But it’s unreasonable to tell them ‘You don’t have enough money for me’, ‘I have much more money than you’ or ‘I’m worried you’ll expect me to finance you’. That’s when judgement and superiority can creep in.

it’s unreasonable to tell them ‘You don’t have enough money for me’, ‘I have much more money than you’ or ‘I’m worried you’ll expect me to finance you’

How is any of that any different to wanting a "financial equal"? OP isn't looking to be kept, she just doesn't want a financial dependent.

Nightmarketz · 21/05/2025 09:47

ThatCyanCat · 21/05/2025 09:25

She doesn't have to meet up with him! She doesn't owe him a date!

Right dating is a lot of effort for some people. I imagine especially so if you have a young child at home like Op.

When I was single I couldn’t be arsed spending time dating men I already have significant reservations about. I saved my time and energy for those I saw potential in.

EdithBond · 21/05/2025 09:47

AthWat · 21/05/2025 09:23

Maybe he got a 20 million pound payout from the company he worked for and could offer them that.
Is the fact that someone isn't working due to injury, with no other knowledge of their circumstances except that, sufficient for you to dismiss them entirely as worthless?

Edited

So true. Some people don’t work because they have enough money to live on for the rest of their lives. You’d be a fool to disclose if you have millions in the bank. Helps sift out the people who make assumptions and value you for wealth rather than personality, behaviour and values.

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