To think it’s actually really unfair to be charged for bank holidays at nursery?

Yes. So I wouldn’t begrudge paying a childminder.

My clients don’t pay my employer for the days I don’t work though, they just charge enough to cover bank holiday and annual leave. It would be more reasonable for nurseries to do this, as it’s what most businesses do.

Is she the staffs employer?
Do you pay waiting staff at a restaurant you frequent their bank holidays ? Tesco checkout ? The postman?

I have issues with this concept too, and for that reason child doesn't go on Mondays which is slightly inconvenient.

It would be fairer for all days to include the cost of Mondays rather than Monday kids to bear the cost. I guess they do to some extent.

Love our nursery, they are great with kiddo.
Staff deserve time off but it's very tricky if your own job covers BH and weekends.

@Fruitbat99 I think plenty of nurseries will not do it like this. It's still a good idea to avoid working Mondays though - typically you get to use more of your leave flexibly instead of having to use up leave allowance on bank holidays Mondays. Also if you are in a job where you need to work bank hols it can be a pain as PP said. Though for some it works ok - DH can take the kids that day and you save a little on childcare across the year.

But the same could be said for any business surely? Why are nurseries the exception?

You could try explaining.

You managed to articulate the problem as you see it pretty well, just not why their approach is reasonable, given the impact on customers. Since this is a thread about the fairness of the charges, that is critical to any position.

I know why you may think it is unfair, but I think it is unfair to assume any company could afford to pay the wages, employers NI and pensions for 8 bank holidays a year, for every member of staff in every nursery they own.
No matter how successful you see them, how would you expect them to fund that. They would have to factor it in to nursery fees or food costs, and parent's would pay it that way.

It's a frustrating situation, especially when nursery costs are so high.

Not really but if that’s how you want to interpret it then there’s not a lot I can do about it.

Did you know that Scotland also have the highest childcare fees in the whole of Europe?

So add that to the 9 missing (paid for) bank holidays that their children can't attend, the parents are being robbed, not the nurseries.

Not to mention all those parents that also work a bank Holiday so need to pay a double fee as the nurseries are closed and they still need childcare. See where I'm going with this?

How do you know I'm not involved?

You should make your own post about that then. This post is completely irrelevant to the points you are making.

Who said it was a surprise? Probably best to read the full post before jumping in at the end with unrelated answers.

Could you choose to use your funding on Mondays and Fridays....then you don't pay anything

Just to add....
Free hours didn't apply to me (it was some time ago!)

So that's unfair on English workers let's start a thread why should others get more time off.

What I found frustrating....

DCs were in nursery Mon and Wed.
I paid disporportionately. Someone who had Tuesday to Thursday would only pay for Christmas / New Year (potentially).

It should have been factored in and added to the daily charge so that it is shared between all parents & is proportionate to the number of days in nursery.

No....get clued up on the real issues and the plan to have children in school with higher staff to children ratios to save money and sign the petitions then nursery wouldn't have to get creative to survive.

They are linked you don't pay bank holidays more staff have to go nurseries close. It's not isolated. And the new rules for september on funding make it impossible to charge extra every itemust be itemised and not part of what is required to provide the eyfs....paper etc....and voluntary. You can't be forced to do extra hours. Sessions can not be split IE for lunch times. Yet people think you can just increase your hourly rate it's not that easy.

There has been a bank holiday at the end of May (or nearby) since 1868. The possibility of having to pay for a bank holiday is not exactly a surprise.

Nurserys are subsidising your free hours and parents are still name calling and moaning instead do research and join the campaign to get the government to pay fair funding rates or there will not be any nurseries left....or the fees will be so high for the few hours used unfunded defeating the object.

So you do additional hours have the benefit of funding soon to be 30 hours and still think £100 a month is a lot I was paying more than twice that 30 years ago from 12 weeks to the term after he was 5 as school was later then and you paid childcare if you used school nursery . My income was £1000 a month after tax.

She likely will get funding however, that's supposed to cover her child on days that they are IN nursery. Not days that the nursery is closed to pay the staff.

Why are you finding this so hard to comprehend? It's been explained in great detail multiple times here.

You claim it's only a small amount that's being lost compared to others however, there should ne absolutely NO loss compared to others. Every child should be receiving the same amount of days that are paid for, regardless is its funding or privately funded.

It should be equal between all children and everyone should get the number of days that they pay for. Not less because they chose to attend a different day to others. Those that attend on days that the nursery are closed shouldn't be disproportionately footing the bill.

It's the nursery's job, like any other business to do this fairly between all the service users. Most are very obviously doing some lazy accounting and cba to work this out, so they disproportionately charge those that attend BH, compared to those that don't.

No I'm not 😂

You're assuming the op is in England. England get 8 days BH, Scotland get 9 BH and Wales get 10.

You are spouting 'facts' without doing any research.