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To make my daughter do ballet

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Hairyragemachine · 20/05/2025 16:29

When I was 5, my mum enrolled me in ballet classes. I went to about six, then decided I didn't want to do it, so my mum took me out of them.

I now have a 5 year old, who has just done her grade 1 ballet exam. However she now says she doesn't want to do it any more. There doesn't seem to be an underlying reason per se, I think she just finds it a drag to give up an hour of saturday morning. This week we had tears and a tantrum and eventually I gave up forcing it, as she had a bad night and very busy week.

But should I allow her to just quit all together? Given it's so good for balance, confidence (she is a performer!), friendships (she has lots there) and discipline, posture... should I make her go for a bit longer?

I wish my mum had not allowed me to just give up - or come to think of it to give up piano, violin, french, guides, tap dancing - lots of hobbies which I wish I was good at now and had stuck at. I needed her to be my self discipline until I was old enough to be my own.

Or - is it mean to force a 5 year old to ballet (she also does tap and modern) when she doesn't want to go? What if she is missing out on a career as an international prima ballerina? Let me know what you think please!

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TheSwarm · 23/05/2025 13:46

Part of the deal of letting kids try hobbies is that they need to be allowed to say "actually, this is not fun, I want to try something else".

BobbyBiscuits · 23/05/2025 13:42

You wish you were good at tap dancing now? Why didn't you just start doing it again as an adult? Why not learn it now. When you are actually choosing to do it and will put in the work.
It's a waste of time forcing kids to do hobbies especially something like ballet which is very disciplined. It's taking a place from a kid who actually wants to do it.

HappyMuma · 23/05/2025 13:24

Let her try something else, there’s so many activities for children, if this isn’t her passion, you need to give her the chance to find the thing that is.

PurpleThistle7 · 23/05/2025 13:05

Hairyragemachine · 23/05/2025 12:08

Honestly, I sat in on one the other week and it was all freestyle prancing with brightly coloured headscarves. There was a distinct lack of formation - I'd like to see the poor teacher try!

That’s definitely what it’s like in pre primary. Much less so once they start working through the grades. My daughter also did her pre primary exam at 5. But then if it’s a RAD syllabus it will get much more focussed and she’ll likely enjoy it even less.

I think you were being tongue in cheek about the ‘prima ballerina’ comment but just in case - people can’t reach that level unless they’re desperate for it. My daughter always was and now, at 12, we are learning that it still isn’t enough. The people who become prima ballerinas are noticeably gifted and focussed and it is an entire lifestyle from quite a young age. It’s a handful in an entire year group so I wouldn’t worry about missing that opportunity. Not sure if I’m explaining it right but ballet in particular is a very specific thing requiring very specific training from childhood. That’s not to say she can’t explore other dance styles and might be a professional dancer one day - but professional ballet is in its own category.

mickandrorty · 23/05/2025 12:32

I think you should let them find what they love to do, mine are a bit older but have tried various things, my daughter has settled with a gardening club and my son has been doing crochet for 3 terms! Hobbies are supposed to be fun, kids have so many years ahead of them of doing stuff that they don't want to do and that isn't fun I don't want to add to that.

Potsofpetals · 23/05/2025 12:19

Hairyragemachine · 23/05/2025 11:55

I feel like you may have missed the nuance in my original post there. So far as I know she's not planning a future as a trapeze artist, so it's not just about the balance. It's good for lots of physical attributes as well as confidence and self esteem. My point was more that I don't think 5 year olds make very well rounded choices and their likes/dislikes are more about what they think at the moment you ask them.

For instance on the day I gave her the choice, her main motivation was, I think, that if she skipped ballet she might have more time to watch Gabby's Dollhouse on her ipad...

Remove the tech or use it as reward. Otherwise you’ll end up with an antisocial ‘gamer’ who has no interest in anything other than what ever shitty game is the flavour of the month. Yes my view is extreme but I’ve seen good kids fall into this hole.

Hairyragemachine · 23/05/2025 12:08

Cabbagefamily · 21/05/2025 07:01

Ballet classes are a terrible thing for children who love dance. A child who loves dancing does not want to do the movements that someone else decides, in time to music that someone else chose. Standing in formation with other children all trying to do the same movements at the same time is the complete opposite of what a dance-loving child wants to do.

That is just utter rubbish.

Honestly, I sat in on one the other week and it was all freestyle prancing with brightly coloured headscarves. There was a distinct lack of formation - I'd like to see the poor teacher try!

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Hairyragemachine · 23/05/2025 12:07

LauritaEvita · 21/05/2025 11:57

She’s telling you she doesn’t want to go. That’s all there is to know.

In terms of the hobbies you gave up as a child, did you pursue any of these later in life, once you did have self discipline and your own agency? Or was it that your younger instinct to leave it was right as it just wasn’t the hobby for you? I ask because I had one friend who was never taken to dance classes. She was desperate to do ballet and started taking herself to classes as a teen, paid for by a paper round. If people are determined to pursue things, they can often find a way. Those who are forced into it are unlikely to ever have that drive.

Yes! I'm now trying to learn the piano (which is much harder as an adult with a full time job than when I literally had nothing else to do but practice all day and enjoy paid for lessons!). Wish I had stuck at it. Ditto French, which I am clumsily teaching myself now.

I do take your point that they will find a way, I just think the instinct and judgement of a 5 year old is not fully developed yet. Still as you say, she can take it up in the future if she wants to.

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Hairyragemachine · 23/05/2025 12:02

ItGhoul · 20/05/2025 19:38

Sometimes we have to do things we don’t like

Yes, sometimes we have to do things we don’t like because they are necessary, so we have to put up with them and it makes us miserable. So why add to that by doing stuff we don’t like even when it’s not necessary? Why make life shitter than it already is?

A small child constantly has to do things it doesn’t like, at school and at home. They get very few chances to decide what they want to do, really. Seems utterly joyless and unpleasant, to me, to make them do a hobby they don’t want to do.

I doubt you would miserably spend your supposed leisure time doing a hobby you dislike, so why inflict that on a five-year-old?

I get what you're saying but then I don't much like running and have to drag myself out from under the table (mentally you understand), but it's good for me and I'm retrospectively delighted. If I just applied the 'life is shit enough' theory, I'd stay on the sofa watching true crime documentaries all day.

She comes out happy enough and said she really enjoyed performing for her exam (sorry everyone, it was not grade 1, it was a pre-primary stage. Not 100% sure what it was called but an examiner came, they did 'the fairy dance' and she ended up with a certificate 6 weeks later. Lots of hair spray and new dance socks).

Really appreciate everyone's feedback. I think I'll do as suggested and finish the term and see what she wants to do then.

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LeedsZebra90 · 23/05/2025 11:58

Let it go. As far as kids activities go - ballet classes for 5 years old are either not hugely ballet based (more fun and focused on moving and controlling their bodies), or are quite boring and too structured. Loads of other activities she could try if you want to focus on balance and posture etc. You said she already does gymnastics...

Hairyragemachine · 23/05/2025 11:55

Fancycheese · 21/05/2025 16:01

Yes. Definitely make your 5 year old do an entirely voluntary hobby she dislikes because it’s good for her balance. Excellent decision.

I feel like you may have missed the nuance in my original post there. So far as I know she's not planning a future as a trapeze artist, so it's not just about the balance. It's good for lots of physical attributes as well as confidence and self esteem. My point was more that I don't think 5 year olds make very well rounded choices and their likes/dislikes are more about what they think at the moment you ask them.

For instance on the day I gave her the choice, her main motivation was, I think, that if she skipped ballet she might have more time to watch Gabby's Dollhouse on her ipad...

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Hairyragemachine · 23/05/2025 11:51

dodobookends · 22/05/2025 16:01

Children cannot take their grade one ballet exam aged 5, no matter what the OP said. A child that age has neither body or brain mature enough to learn the syllabus content anyway, which is why the examining bodies don't allow it.

I wouldn't go so far as to accuse the OP of making it up...

Edited

My mistake, it was the precursor to grade 1, the pre-primary one. She loved it, she got to wear flowers in her hair and prance about in her 'best' leotard, I don't think anything about it was stressful and I gave her the choice of doing it or not.

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Hairyragemachine · 23/05/2025 11:50

Ankther · 20/05/2025 16:50

She does three different dance activities? Is that the only hobby she’s allowed to have?

She also does Rainbows and swimming, the odd horse riding lesson and drama and gymnastics on/off as they are organised by the school at after school clubs.

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Commonsense22 · 22/05/2025 16:10

Young children hardly ever are self motivated to practice an instrument or hobby seriously. You have to be the parent at that age and decide for them.
That doesn't mean pushing them to practice 3 hours a day or enroll them in 7 distinct hobbies but it absolutely means not letting them give up easily.

dodobookends · 22/05/2025 16:01

SnoozingFox · 21/05/2025 08:00

Find another dance class which is about having fun, making friends and keeping fit, not doing stupid exams aged FIVE.

Seriously. Why do parents put up with this shit? Ballet exams are utterly pointless other than for the 0.001% of children who are going to have a career as professional ballet dancers.

Children cannot take their grade one ballet exam aged 5, no matter what the OP said. A child that age has neither body or brain mature enough to learn the syllabus content anyway, which is why the examining bodies don't allow it.

I wouldn't go so far as to accuse the OP of making it up...

zingally · 21/05/2025 16:43

Tell her you've paid until the end of July - it doesn't have to be true.
Then if she still wants to quit then, she can.

Fancycheese · 21/05/2025 16:01

Yes. Definitely make your 5 year old do an entirely voluntary hobby she dislikes because it’s good for her balance. Excellent decision.

dodobookends · 21/05/2025 15:41

The OP doesn't appear to have returned to the thread. I'm not surprised, considering how many people have pointed out some - er - inaccuracies. 😂

Bit of a 'Wind 'em up and watch 'em go' thread if you ask me.

Cabbagefamily · 21/05/2025 12:24

SnoozingFox · 21/05/2025 08:00

Find another dance class which is about having fun, making friends and keeping fit, not doing stupid exams aged FIVE.

Seriously. Why do parents put up with this shit? Ballet exams are utterly pointless other than for the 0.001% of children who are going to have a career as professional ballet dancers.

It’s the other way round. Ballet exams are for recreational hobby dancers and are a thing only in the UK. Professional dancers don’t do them.

ItGhoul · 21/05/2025 12:01

JustMarriedBecca · 20/05/2025 21:28

Our kids probably had quite a lot of autonomy at home and they definitely do at school so I don't think choosing hobbies is their only chance to make a decision.

Its more about finishing a commitment and not quitting half way through something. My husband runs a football team for my DS and they had kids drop out mid way through the season and it's a proper pain in the arse. It impacts everything and generally teachers (ballet, football etc) do it because they are passionate about it, not to become millionaires. Teaching a child that you commit to what you started to not let down the rest of the class / your team etc is a good lesson

And yes actually, if I signed up for something after giving it a trial for a bit (and having an easy back out period) and then I committed to something, I'd finish that commitment even if I couldn't be arsed. Because I'd be letting people down otherwise.

I am by no means a people pleaser. But I am also not selfish. It's a balance. In work. And in leisure time.

But in what way is stopping going to a ballet class 'letting people down'? It's not a team sport or a drama ensemble. The others in the class will be unaffected by which kids turn up for the lesson and which don't.

LauritaEvita · 21/05/2025 11:57

She’s telling you she doesn’t want to go. That’s all there is to know.

In terms of the hobbies you gave up as a child, did you pursue any of these later in life, once you did have self discipline and your own agency? Or was it that your younger instinct to leave it was right as it just wasn’t the hobby for you? I ask because I had one friend who was never taken to dance classes. She was desperate to do ballet and started taking herself to classes as a teen, paid for by a paper round. If people are determined to pursue things, they can often find a way. Those who are forced into it are unlikely to ever have that drive.

CocoPlum · 21/05/2025 08:43

She's 5. Just stop.

My DD took up ballet again last year aged 15, having done it until age 5. She doesn't want to be a ballerina but enjoys the class. There's no reason to spend all this money if she's not enjoying it.

ballroomblue · 21/05/2025 08:39

Please don't make her go.

PurpleThistle7 · 21/05/2025 08:24

SnoozingFox · 21/05/2025 08:00

Find another dance class which is about having fun, making friends and keeping fit, not doing stupid exams aged FIVE.

Seriously. Why do parents put up with this shit? Ballet exams are utterly pointless other than for the 0.001% of children who are going to have a career as professional ballet dancers.

This is really rude. My daughter ‘loves’ ballet and loves exams. I’m not a dancer and have never pushed her. Exams are a wonderful
opportunity to work towards a goal and excel in something outside of school (which she finds challenging)

is all competition ‘stupid’? Should there be no winners in football? No swimming races? No sports day? Every child deserves a chance to shine.

jeaux90 · 21/05/2025 08:22

OP my DD really hated ballet, I did it for years. I decided to try her at all sorts instead to see what she loved.

If you have a tennis club nearby they often do really fun junior tennis “camps” during half term or Saturday coaching. It’s a great opportunity for them to meet kids from other schools, run off steam, have some fun and learn a new skill/sport.

I was surprised my DD really took to it and it was great for her balance. She’s 16 now and still plays.