To wonder why menstruation is the way it is

What are you trying to say? That PMT is made up? Maybe they are in a culture where they can talk about it more than in their previous country.

You said "Some perfectly healthy people have painful periods." I'm saying that I would consider painful periods a health issue.

You seem not to believe that diet can be a factor, I'm not sure why? Research has linked upfs to period pain. Obviously, there are also many other factors, but generally anything that increases inflammation in the body can increase period pain.

You said "Some perfectly healthy people have painful periods." I'm saying that I would consider painful periods a health issue.

You seem not to believe that diet can be a factor, I'm not sure why? Research has linked upfs to period pain. Obviously, there are also many other factors, but generally anything that increases inflammation in the body can increase period pain.

An interesting series of studies on immigrant women to the US finds that PMDD (premenstrual dysphoria disorder — mood swings, depression, irritability etc just before a period) only start to be reported in significant numbers by immigrants once they acculturate into the US. The duration of contact with US culture seems to directly correlate to reported PMDD.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032710006270

I didn’t say anywhere that people who have days off work and debilitating periods were perfectly healthy?

I think it’s ridiculous blaming upfs for painful periods. Upfs are a hot topic at the moment . Women had painful periods long before upfs. And for the record I eat loads of upfs , have a pretty average and not particularly healthy lifestyle and have never had painful periods.

What is the point of moaning about something you can't change? I don't understand all the negativity around periods and menopause on this site.

I guess that's where we disagree. I think if someone has debilitating periods that stop them from working and living their lives for several days every month, then they're not perfectly healthy.

I've often thought that someone needs to invent a button that you can just press and all of your period comes out in one go when you're sitting on the loo. Wipe clean, job done.

I've given it enough thought to realise that it would need some kind of double switch to make sure you don't accidentally press it when you're not on the loo, or get knocked when you're out and about as that would not be cool at all.

If anyone knows anyone who could invent this, I'd be very grateful. Obviously we'd go halves on the patent rights...

Yes perhaps it might not be normal however there are lots of reasons for painful periods that have absolutely nothing to do with lifestyle factors. Some perfectly healthy people have painful periods. Throughout history there have always been painful periods .

Yes, that's why I didn't just blame people's diets. Scientific studies have linked period pain to stress, diet, exercise, pollution, sleep, and toxins among other factors.

I do believe that while painful periods are very common, they're not 'normal' in the sense that I think it's a sign that something is wrong. The same way that if we have chronic backaches or headaches it's a sign that we're not at optimal health.

Yes, that's why I didn't just blame people's diets. Scientific studies have linked period pain to stress, diet, exercise, pollution, sleep, and toxins among other factors.

I do believe that while painful periods are very common, they're not 'normal' in the sense that I think it's a sign that something is wrong. The same way that if we have chronic backaches or headaches it's a sign that we're not at optimal health.

Obviously we know why periods exist. But I maintain that if men had to deal with this for a large chunk of their lives there would have been a cure a long time ago! Unfortunately medicine and research funding is incredibly patriarchal so us moaning women just have to put up with it and shut up.

between 2019-2023 $1.24 billion was spent funding research into erectile dysfunction compared to $44 million for endometriosis….

It wouldn't be MN if a man wasn't blamed! Would it!?
Classic!! 😂

Good for you that cutting out sugar and upfs worked for you. but it’s not always related to diet and painful periods have always been a thing, it’s not a new issue. My mother who is almost 80 used to have to book the days of her period off work they were so painful she would feel weak and almost faint. The pain completely went away after she had her first child. Bit simplistic blaming people’s diets.

I used to have painful periods but once I gave birth I never had a period pain again, have no idea why.

Especially because if you take a certain medication, it makes the blood be reabsorbed by the body, and the body is totally fine.
that's really not how any of the medications used to help periods works.

Obviously we know why periods exist. But I maintain that if men had to deal with this for a large chunk of their lives there would have been a cure a long time ago! Unfortunately medicine and research funding is incredibly patriarchal so us moaning women just have to put up with it and shut up.

between 2019-2023 $1.24 billion was spent funding research into erectile dysfunction compared to $44 million for endometriosis….

I don't think there is enough a lot of Dr's don't even think we can feel as much pain as we do

Ever heard people talk about the care they were given after a csection vrs the care there husband was given after a vasectomy?

Ooh good question!

A quick google-oogle says they exist in whales, horses and elephants, where they’re only torn on giving birth. It’s hard to find decent links - it seems there’s not an awful lot of research into women’s biology, can’t imagine why. Some theories for the existence include upright walking or the ol’ aquatic ape theory leading to a greater poss of infection. A couple mention patriarchy and sexual selection as a possibility but that doesn’t seem likely as patriarchy is very late in evolution - probably linked to farming, seems to be a later condition in Sumerian societies and something that swept through on the back of Rome perhaps. Suppression of women seems to come about with economic change.

God is sexiest and had no idea what he was doing when created us