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For thinking my brother and his wife trying to take my Dad's house?

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 10:47

My Dad has left his house to my brother and his wife in his will (bone of contention in the family as my Dad already gave my brother the family business and then my brother sold it, making millions of pounds, despite my Dad not wanting this to happen. My Dad was still involved in the business and used to pop in during the day, albeit not as an owner once he gave it to my brother). My Dad is a very fit and healthy 81 year old and I hope he has many years left in his home. He loves his garden and cutting his lawn and takes great pride in the house.

My brother and his wife have announced to me that they want to get an architect into my Dad's house to start drawing up house plans as they "have lots of ideas" about what they want to do with it once they get their hands on it.

I feel that they are just wanting my Dad to die!

One of their children, their 16 year old daughter, was staying with Dad last week while my brother and his wife were on holidays and this niece posted a scathing Snapchat video about my Dad about "how bad he is at cooking" and how she "had to throw her dinner into the bushes beside the patio when he wasn't looking"..all the way through laughing her head off, basically making out like my Dad is some senile imbecile. I feel like my brother and his wife are speaking ill about my Dad behind his back. My Dad isn't senile at all and is very capable and kind.

When I asked my brother why he has to bring in an architect into my Dad's house to basically plan for when my Dad is deceased, he got a bit huffy with me. I asked him why he can't just leave Dad alone and has to be doing this to him. Then he told me he's thinking of buying a small bungalow that's for sale nearby anyway. Now I am afraid he's going to try and take my Dad's house and put my Dad into the little bungalow. I always thought my Dad would be able to live in his house til the rest of his days.

My brother and his wife have a lovely house near my Dad's and millions in the bank, so I don't know what the fixation is on taking my Dad's house (Dad's house is beautiful BTW) when they could just build or buy one equally nice.

I feel that my brother and my sister in law are having no regard for my Dad, are waiting for him to die and are either going to try push him into a home or into the small bungalow they're about to buy down the road.

AIBU in being so upset about this?

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:39

SnakesandKnives · 20/05/2025 12:34

God what a horrible horrible thread. I’m so sorry OP

Are your brother, wife and niece generally unpleasant people in other regards? What a truly horrendous set of actions from them

i think some people on here are being a bit unfair (possibly) about your Dad. It sounds like he has become completely conditioned to do what he is told by wife and your brother over the years. If the genders were reversed I think this would be seen as a much more normal situation regards coercive control.

My Dad is a very passive man. My mum was always the boss in the house. My Dad is lost without her. He would have done anything she told him to do because he loved her so much. He always worked hard throughout his life and built up his business from nothing to something very lucrative. My brother took on the running of the business in later years but my Dad was still involved.

My brother used to be ok, but he has married a woman of a different European culture who is extremely forward (one could argue rude) and demanding. Together they are a formidable pair. Very demanding, even of me. For example, my bother's wife, who never contacts me except when looking for something, recently sent me a message: Hi, my neighbour is in a play and needs a size 4 shoe for wearing on stage for a few nights. You have a small foot so can you give her some of your shoes.

There's nothing wrong with that message, but why can't the neighbour go to a cheap shop or charity shop and sort herself out. I just feel they treat me like a mug. Needless to say, I didn't give his random neighbour, whose name wasn't even mentioned in the text, any shoes!

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NotThisShitAgain121 · 20/05/2025 12:38

I would warn your dad. You brother sounds like a right entitled piece of shit and his wife does for that matter disgusting. I would want my parents around forever and no amount of money would make me want otherwise. Huge Red flag!

alexdgr8 · 20/05/2025 12:36

The brother is probably scheming to move father into the cheaper bungalow so that the valuable house is not swallowed up in any care fees.
But.
The local authority is very hot on winkling out deprivation of assets and will bill accordingly.
Ie ignoring the transfer.
Especially if it can be shown that there was reason to believe care would be needed maybe in the future at the time the asset was transferred.
So.
Keep those postings re how incapable father is at cooking etc.
Brother likely coached his daughter.
Hoist on his own petard.

nhsmanagersanonymous · 20/05/2025 12:36

@SadANDupsetGirlI know you’d never do that but that’s because your parents have failed you and your brother has profited from this whilst your self esteem appears to be in minus figures. Your passivity which results from this is then allowing them to do this again and again.
But it’s wrong! Fight back! Get yourself an ally. Neither of your parents deserves your kindness.

ChaToilLeam · 20/05/2025 12:35

Your mother's favouritism and your father's passivity have really done a number on you, OP. If you're not prepared to make some noise about this, at least don't run around after your father. What care and concern have any of them shown to you? I am sorry, you sound like a kind person but also something of a martyr.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 20/05/2025 12:35

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 11:26

It would upset him. I don't want to upset him.

I'm not really sure how anyone where xns help you if your father has decided to give everything to his son because your mother wants him to have the house and he worked on the business, and you don't seem to have any issues with it because you're not driven by money, and you're unwilling to speak to your father about it because you don't want to upset him.

Given you've already accepted the fact that your brother will get the house because that's what your mother wants I don't see why you're concerned if he bringing in architects now. That's your father's cross to bear since he doesn't see anything wrong with such a one sided split of assets between his children.

Then again this story doesn't make sense and I think there's more to it or it's made up. You seem to be very blase about the fact that your father is leaving all his assets, the house and multi million pound business to your brother and nothing to you, yet you're concerned that your brother is bringing in architects to start making plans about the house you admit will be his at some point because that's what your mother wants.

Fuckoffwithyourculturalissues · 20/05/2025 12:34

Are their cultural issues? 🙄As if white, British, Christian people/families don't behave like absolute fucking wankers all the time, as evidenced by the plethora of threads on these boards.

@SadANDupsetGirl Your late mother and brother sound like hideous human beings. Your father is an enabler. You are not prepared to fight any of this injustice within your family. And your daughter sounds scared of your niece. You will end up being used by your father/brother/DIL/niece for whatever care and support your father needs, as evidenced by his asking you to help with planting in the house that you have been disinherited from. Do yourself a big favour and walk away from the lot of them. If you don't want to lose contact with your father, find your voice. Tell him how you feel and that you will not be running yourself ragged when your rich, lazy brother gets away with doing nothing for him. Lay down some boundaries and please stop being so passive - this is not a healthy model for your children.

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:34

Doggielovecharlotte · 20/05/2025 12:31

Is this a family farm business OP?

No, not a farm.

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Ddakji · 20/05/2025 12:34

Why do you care? Your parents have both made it clear they favour your brother over you, so I’d leave them all to it.

HelloDaisy · 20/05/2025 12:34

I’m sorry this is happening to you, completely awful parenting really. As a pp said I do think you need to ask your dad why there has been such a difference and why your brother gets everything and you and your dc nothing. See what is answer is and rest from there.

I can’t see how he is a good dad if treating you so differently to your brother. How was life for you when you were younger? Christmas, birthdays etc? I always spend exactly the same on both dc and am very conscious of treating them equally.

Also, how is your relationship with your brother? Has he shared anything so far or commented on the disparity?

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:34

Blackcountrychik83 · 20/05/2025 12:29

I’m not sure what you are getting from this thread if you don’t want to speak to your Dad ? What can anyone else do for you ? You’re lying back and taking this and having your Dad dump his jobs on you whilst handing his money over to your Brother and he has to do nothing … You need to stand up for yourself or walk away and leave them too it .

I am toying with the idea, after reading all of the replies, that I may just have a word with him..more of a warning to him than anything of what I suspect my brother is doing and to watch his back.

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SnakesandKnives · 20/05/2025 12:34

God what a horrible horrible thread. I’m so sorry OP

Are your brother, wife and niece generally unpleasant people in other regards? What a truly horrendous set of actions from them

i think some people on here are being a bit unfair (possibly) about your Dad. It sounds like he has become completely conditioned to do what he is told by wife and your brother over the years. If the genders were reversed I think this would be seen as a much more normal situation regards coercive control.

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:32

JojoM1981 · 20/05/2025 12:29

Fully expecting my manipulative brother to do something similar re financial abuse re mum. He has form but he lives closer and I'm 6 hours away😔

My father in law has signed a million pound hose to my sister in law. It hurts my husband but what can we do? We are very low contact now.

I feel your pain.

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:32

LaTristesseDureraToujours · 20/05/2025 12:25

You’re so kind about your dad, when it sounds like he’s done very little to deserve it. Usually my first thought when it comes to inheritances etc. is that people come off really grabby, and you are the exact opposite of that. It sounds like your brother gives very few shits about your dad so I’m not surprised you’re feeling so hurt, I’d be furious! It’s not even the money, even if it would benefit you greatly it’s the principle - your brother has millions in the bank after selling a business from under your dad’s feet, is already planning how he’s going to cash in on the house he’s ALIVE AND LIVING IN. Who does that? And him also getting half of the £300k is just obscene on top of it all.

I’m quite a passive person but I’d have to say something. I know you said it’ll upset your dad, but he has no problem upsetting you by making it clear you’re good enough to come and do shit jobs around the house for him while working full time, while his millionaire son pisses about doing nothing, but not good enough to deserve a fair share of inheritance.

It would be a life-changing amount for you, because you didn’t already skank millions off his business because you’re not a scumbag.

Sorry your family are like this. I’d want to speak to my brother again and reiterate that it’s so rude to be planning what he’s doing to maximise his profit on the house when his own dad dies, and what the fuck is he playing at. Make it clear, too, to your dad that you can’t do plants or odd jobs because you have to work. Because you weren’t given millions to live off. He’s got a lovely great son who surely could make time to do that shit!

You say your dad is kind but his actions say different. Fair enough your mum was wrong to promise the house to your brother as well, but your dad could have used his brain and reconsidered when your brother landed up with so much money from the business. Situations change and I find it abhorrent your parents would see you struggle and work hard when they could be supporting you, rather than giving your brother more money to squirrel away.

sorry you’re going through this. It’s not even about the money is it, it’s the way it just makes you feel like your dad doesn’t value you at all enough to grow a backbone.

Thank you and you're absolutely right. This isn't about the money for me. I am very hurt by it. I could do with some money as I have a big mortgage, bills to pay etc. but I am not going to look for it from my family. I will work for everything I have got. I watch my brother and his wife, who have reared such an insolent daughter who sees fit to to slag off her grandad publicly online behind his back when he's doing his best. I would not want my kids to be like that. I watch how they are reared and how their kids (the eldest daugher in particular) treat my own kids and I thank God that I don't have a family like theirs. So for all of their millions, I can't see it bringing them any luck. They aren't nice people and I am not blind to that. In saying all of that, I do care about my Dad and want him to enjoy his autumn years in peace without having to be thrown out of his own home, or even endure architects walking around him talking about how they'll remodel it once he's dead!

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Doggielovecharlotte · 20/05/2025 12:31

Is this a family farm business OP?

BrickBiscuit · 20/05/2025 12:30

Parrotinthehouse · 20/05/2025 11:56

@SadANDupsetGirlI'd write your father a letter - explaining how you feel. Might change the outcome, might not. At least it's off your chest before he dies. Don't hang onto the pain, tell him.

Also your brother is a grabby arsehole - is there a reason he dislikes you so much? Also your SIL Also to blame! Who marries a man like this!!

Don’t put anything in any form of writing, anywhere, without legal advice first. Your brother will get hold of it and, if possible, use it against you. Write it for yourself, don’t deliver it, then destroy it.

Blackcountrychik83 · 20/05/2025 12:29

PussInBin20 · 20/05/2025 11:49

Well if you can’t speak to your DF about it, then there is nothing you can do. 🤷‍♀️

I’m not sure what you are getting from this thread if you don’t want to speak to your Dad ? What can anyone else do for you ? You’re lying back and taking this and having your Dad dump his jobs on you whilst handing his money over to your Brother and he has to do nothing … You need to stand up for yourself or walk away and leave them too it .

JojoM1981 · 20/05/2025 12:29

Fully expecting my manipulative brother to do something similar re financial abuse re mum. He has form but he lives closer and I'm 6 hours away😔

My father in law has signed a million pound hose to my sister in law. It hurts my husband but what can we do? We are very low contact now.

crumblingschools · 20/05/2025 12:29

If there has been an element of coercion there could be legal ramifications

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:27

MissMoneyFairy · 20/05/2025 12:24

You're better off having no money from them,it's bad blood money and you and your own family are better off without it, once your dad passes you dont ever need to have have any contact with them again, that's worth more than any amount of money. Don't discuss it anh more, keep out of it, dad knows what he's doing.

Yes, I don't plan to have anything to do with brother and his wife whenever the time comes that my Dad passes, but obviously I don't want my Dad to pass away for 20 years!

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:26

nhsmanagersanonymous · 20/05/2025 12:23

Hmmm
well I think I’d be making some lovely single lady friends of a certain age and taking them along to visit dad a lot. I’m sure one of them would find your dad and his flower pots appealing.
A new step mum won’t make your situation any worse but would invalidate the current will and more importantly infuriate your ghastly sibling. She might even encourage your dad to pursue whether he has been fairly treated as he would need to make fair provision for his new wife too.

I could never do that. My mother is in an urn in the front room and my father has not got over her passing. She is only deceased 6 months.

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:25

JojoM1981 · 20/05/2025 12:17

Vile vultures 🤮
Sadly I'm fully expecting the same to happen once my mum passes 😔😔😔

Sorry to hear that. I completely empathise and sympathise to be in this position.

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LaTristesseDureraToujours · 20/05/2025 12:25

You’re so kind about your dad, when it sounds like he’s done very little to deserve it. Usually my first thought when it comes to inheritances etc. is that people come off really grabby, and you are the exact opposite of that. It sounds like your brother gives very few shits about your dad so I’m not surprised you’re feeling so hurt, I’d be furious! It’s not even the money, even if it would benefit you greatly it’s the principle - your brother has millions in the bank after selling a business from under your dad’s feet, is already planning how he’s going to cash in on the house he’s ALIVE AND LIVING IN. Who does that? And him also getting half of the £300k is just obscene on top of it all.

I’m quite a passive person but I’d have to say something. I know you said it’ll upset your dad, but he has no problem upsetting you by making it clear you’re good enough to come and do shit jobs around the house for him while working full time, while his millionaire son pisses about doing nothing, but not good enough to deserve a fair share of inheritance.

It would be a life-changing amount for you, because you didn’t already skank millions off his business because you’re not a scumbag.

Sorry your family are like this. I’d want to speak to my brother again and reiterate that it’s so rude to be planning what he’s doing to maximise his profit on the house when his own dad dies, and what the fuck is he playing at. Make it clear, too, to your dad that you can’t do plants or odd jobs because you have to work. Because you weren’t given millions to live off. He’s got a lovely great son who surely could make time to do that shit!

You say your dad is kind but his actions say different. Fair enough your mum was wrong to promise the house to your brother as well, but your dad could have used his brain and reconsidered when your brother landed up with so much money from the business. Situations change and I find it abhorrent your parents would see you struggle and work hard when they could be supporting you, rather than giving your brother more money to squirrel away.

sorry you’re going through this. It’s not even about the money is it, it’s the way it just makes you feel like your dad doesn’t value you at all enough to grow a backbone.

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:25

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 20/05/2025 12:13

Wow, your brother is a complete shit. Bear in mind your dad might also need to go into care at some point so his house will need to be sold to cover the costs.

That is a good point

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:24

Blackdow · 20/05/2025 12:08

Were you ever given the option of helping in the family business or being any part of it?
Did you refuse? Or were you not actually included at all, because your parents just decided it would be your brother’s?

I did something different in uni, so would never have been part of the family business. My brother trained in the same field as the family business.

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