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For thinking my brother and his wife trying to take my Dad's house?

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 10:47

My Dad has left his house to my brother and his wife in his will (bone of contention in the family as my Dad already gave my brother the family business and then my brother sold it, making millions of pounds, despite my Dad not wanting this to happen. My Dad was still involved in the business and used to pop in during the day, albeit not as an owner once he gave it to my brother). My Dad is a very fit and healthy 81 year old and I hope he has many years left in his home. He loves his garden and cutting his lawn and takes great pride in the house.

My brother and his wife have announced to me that they want to get an architect into my Dad's house to start drawing up house plans as they "have lots of ideas" about what they want to do with it once they get their hands on it.

I feel that they are just wanting my Dad to die!

One of their children, their 16 year old daughter, was staying with Dad last week while my brother and his wife were on holidays and this niece posted a scathing Snapchat video about my Dad about "how bad he is at cooking" and how she "had to throw her dinner into the bushes beside the patio when he wasn't looking"..all the way through laughing her head off, basically making out like my Dad is some senile imbecile. I feel like my brother and his wife are speaking ill about my Dad behind his back. My Dad isn't senile at all and is very capable and kind.

When I asked my brother why he has to bring in an architect into my Dad's house to basically plan for when my Dad is deceased, he got a bit huffy with me. I asked him why he can't just leave Dad alone and has to be doing this to him. Then he told me he's thinking of buying a small bungalow that's for sale nearby anyway. Now I am afraid he's going to try and take my Dad's house and put my Dad into the little bungalow. I always thought my Dad would be able to live in his house til the rest of his days.

My brother and his wife have a lovely house near my Dad's and millions in the bank, so I don't know what the fixation is on taking my Dad's house (Dad's house is beautiful BTW) when they could just build or buy one equally nice.

I feel that my brother and my sister in law are having no regard for my Dad, are waiting for him to die and are either going to try push him into a home or into the small bungalow they're about to buy down the road.

AIBU in being so upset about this?

OP posts:
SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 14:36

I am going to call over to my Dad tonight and see if I can initiate a conversation about this - maybe as a head's-up...and see what his wishes are. I wonder would it be legal to record the conversation or would I need to ask him. In case I needed it for in the future if I did need to present it to a court or anything.

OP posts:
SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 14:33

Trendyname · 20/05/2025 14:15

I hope this thread gives op some courage to speak up. This thread has been triggering for me. I didn't want to out this but my mother was like OP very proud about her values, but she was on mim wage and my father was alcoholic, while her father was rich and gave loads to his financially well off son but very luttle to daughter as daughters are not same family once they marry.
My mum's annoys me when she brags about her not being greedy.
I think op's children are in better situation but hope they never question op's decision to stay silent in future. I am leaving. Need to get on with work now 😊
Will ping later to see op's response. Good luck.

I think sometimes I tell myself I am okay with this all as a survival mechanism, because in reality I know it is terribly unfair and cruel. That's why I'd never ever do it to my own kids. But if I dwell on this and become super angry and resentful, then I will only anger myself...and nothing is going to change anyway :(

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 14:31

Codlingmoths · 20/05/2025 14:12

There's nothing wrong with that message, but why can't the neighbour go to a cheap shop or charity shop and sort herself out. I just feel they treat me like a mug.

There is a hell of a lot wrong with that message he sent you op, it’s treating you like shit on your shoe. If I were your dh I’d be furious, and I’d say I have very little support for you helping your dad out, but I’m happy to call your brother and say your dad wants this, <op> is upset as she can’t do it with work etc, you should do it. Bye.
I’d also suggest I read all your brothers messages and only tell her about relevant stuff. So the shoes message I’d just reply for you if I were your dh: No. don’t send me any more pushy rude requests for me to help your random neighbours.

Yeh I know. I was taken aback by it, but not surprised. She's very rude to me a lot like that.

OP posts:
SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 14:30

Trendyname · 20/05/2025 14:04

So your brother was gifted a ready made career while you made your own in outside world like us ordinary people.

Yep

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SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 14:29

Trendyname · 20/05/2025 14:00

Something like this used to be very common in my Indian culture and still is in some families. For this reason, there are so many middle age siblings with broken relationships.

I was wondering if op is from same culture as mine.

Hi, no, I am not Indian.

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Firefly100 · 20/05/2025 14:25

No, sorry OP but there is being passive and accepting and then there is being a doormat. You say you would not like to upset your dad - the same dad who clearly doesn’t give a s* about upsetting you. It is not about money, I respect you for that, but it should be about respect - respecting yourself. Your father is an exceptionally bad parent for treating you as though you are worthless. Your brother is a bad brother for going along with it. Again, your brother has no issues upsetting your father by selling the business and your father seems to have had no issue with your brother treating him badly. Personally I could not let this lie. I would speak to my father, express my concerns about his future wellbeing and then state for my own wellbeing i would be taking a big step back from his life. He has demonstrated by his actions that he considers me, and his grandchildren by me, to be utterly unworthy of his respect and to be treated with contempt. I cannot be around people like that in my life. He is passing on the house as that was your mother’s desire and he loved her. What about love for you? Where does he factor that in? Actions have consequences. Actions of ‘very passive’ people (who btw have no issue taking actions as long as they only disadvantage you) have consequences.

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 14:22

RK800 · 20/05/2025 13:12

Sorry you’re going through this OP.

I’m in a similar situation, my brother convinced my parents to sell the family home and use the money to build a house on his land.

Five years later, brother said he needs the property for his kids and has bought a property locally for my parent to live rent free in.

My parents have since renovated the property like it’s their own, with their money. I kept telling them it’s not their property, why are they using their money to renovate someone else’s house? All falls on deaf ears.

Unfortunately, my parents are not the smartest of people and are easily led. I’m low contact for a number of reasons with only monthly phone calls and no contact with my brother. I just hope that they’ve provisioned for care fees etc.

To be honest, it’s all out of my control so I try not to think about it too much, but sad to see others experiencing similar situations.

This is a very similar situation to me. Sorry you are going through this.

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FoxglovesAndLupins · 20/05/2025 14:21

OP - could you ask your dad for a share of the house to go to your DC? I know you are nervous of a family feud but it looks like you are going low contact with your brother and his family so is there really that much to lose by asking?

Mauvehoodie · 20/05/2025 14:16

This is just so bafflingly unfair.

I think I'd drop in a few comments in passing to your Dad that your brother mentioned buying a bungalow in the village. Then say "you know you don't have to agree to anything that you don't want to do. If anyone tries to make you do something you don't want to you can always come to me for support. I won't make a big drama but I'll be in your corner and help you work out what to do" then change the subject. It sounds like he won't want to talk it out but I'd want him to know that I'd be there for him if your brother pushes him too far (not that he especially deserves it for how he has/is treating you but I get that he is in a vulnerable position and there's a lot of backstory with your mum etc).

I'd also put in some decent boundaries re: care/help eg with the flower pots, you could say "I'd love to drop in and help and spend a bit of time with you, Dad. I've got 2 hours on Saturday afternoon to help you get started but beyond that, you'll need to get brothers help or find a gardener/employ someone to help. Work and DC are just so full on at the moment I need to make sure I don't spread myself too thinly".

Trendyname · 20/05/2025 14:15

I hope this thread gives op some courage to speak up. This thread has been triggering for me. I didn't want to out this but my mother was like OP very proud about her values, but she was on mim wage and my father was alcoholic, while her father was rich and gave loads to his financially well off son but very luttle to daughter as daughters are not same family once they marry.
My mum's annoys me when she brags about her not being greedy.
I think op's children are in better situation but hope they never question op's decision to stay silent in future. I am leaving. Need to get on with work now 😊
Will ping later to see op's response. Good luck.

Escapingagain · 20/05/2025 14:13

So your dad avoids drama and so do you. But your dad is being bullied by your brother. I would have to ask him how he feels about your brother moving him out of his house as that’s what’s going to happen. I don’t think your brother can legally do this while your dad is alive?! Your brother sounds greedy have you ever asked your dad why you have been treated so differently? I know I would be fuming it must be hurtful why should you have to work so hard in life while your brother spends your parents money.

Codlingmoths · 20/05/2025 14:12

There's nothing wrong with that message, but why can't the neighbour go to a cheap shop or charity shop and sort herself out. I just feel they treat me like a mug.

There is a hell of a lot wrong with that message he sent you op, it’s treating you like shit on your shoe. If I were your dh I’d be furious, and I’d say I have very little support for you helping your dad out, but I’m happy to call your brother and say your dad wants this, <op> is upset as she can’t do it with work etc, you should do it. Bye.
I’d also suggest I read all your brothers messages and only tell her about relevant stuff. So the shoes message I’d just reply for you if I were your dh: No. don’t send me any more pushy rude requests for me to help your random neighbours.

Trendyname · 20/05/2025 14:04

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 12:24

I did something different in uni, so would never have been part of the family business. My brother trained in the same field as the family business.

So your brother was gifted a ready made career while you made your own in outside world like us ordinary people.

Aussierose2 · 20/05/2025 14:03

Honestly people are so greedy it's disgusting ! My mother used to tell my Nan she couldn't choose what carpet she wanted because the house would be hers soon anyway 🤢 things like that. It's very distressing I really feel for you.

JojoM1981 · 20/05/2025 14:03

Forgot to add to my post re my father in law leaving his house to my sister in law and his reason was I've got my mum's inheritance coming 😒🙄sis in law is a single parent 🤦‍♂️

RhannionKPSS · 20/05/2025 14:02

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 11:26

It would upset him. I don't want to upset him.

So why are posting ? Tbh you have two choices, let this continue, you will feel upset , or speak up to your dad in a calm manner because this whole situation is incredibly unfair on you

Trendyname · 20/05/2025 14:00

pimplebum · 20/05/2025 12:05

I am gob smacked that you are taking it lying down about your brother getting millions and you absolutely nothing
are their cultural issues at play here ?

personally I’d not be able to just carry on being chums with my dad and brother I’d leave them too it

can you contest the will with your dad as far as the house is concerned ?

id need a lot of therapy to deal with this shit

Something like this used to be very common in my Indian culture and still is in some families. For this reason, there are so many middle age siblings with broken relationships.

I was wondering if op is from same culture as mine.

Clarefromwork · 20/05/2025 13:56

Does it not annoy you that your brother has manipulated your dad and still stands to get the house? Surly you should want to at least speak to your dad about it rather then both of you burying your head in the sand ?

You said your dad didn’t want to sell the business so you could broach it from that angle as surly your mum wouldn’t want your brother to have the house still had she known that your brother was going to sell the family business straight away?

I feel like you are trying to not let this bother you, count your blessings etc but I think you will regret not even trying to speak to your dad about it.

Bigcat25 · 20/05/2025 13:53

I think a gentle word with your dad might be good. I know you don't want to cause him pain but that will happen anyway if he sees his son try to run him out of his house.

Hoppinggreen · 20/05/2025 13:48

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 11:14

No backstory really.
The house was intended to go to him because that was mother's wish before she died. She wanted someone in the family to keep living in the house and chose him.
He was the only one in the family who worked in the business and that's probably why Dad handed it over in its entirety to him.

You are treating your Dad with much more respect, care and concern for his interests than he has done for you.
Either leave them all to it or stop being so passive
You aren't getting the house anyway so why do you care if your Dad moves out of it now or anytime. If he has a different house maybe he will leave it to you when he dies anyway so this could work in your favour

Trendyname · 20/05/2025 13:48

Redpeach · 20/05/2025 11:54

Your neice sounds vile, i'd be sending the video to her parents, as well as a cookery book for teens

That niece will reap financial benefits not op's children. It's so unfair but OP does not feel as strong about this as she does about upsetting her unfair father.

QuinionsRainbow · 20/05/2025 13:46

If OP's father dies within seven years of giving the business to his son, won't there be gift-related Inheritance Tax implications for his estate, not to mention Capital Gains liability on the house? I ask as an utter ignoramus on such things!

SnoopDougyDoug · 20/05/2025 13:46

Bumblebeestiltskin · 20/05/2025 13:44

Have you been raised to believe you're a second class citizen compared to your brother? I can't think of another reason for you being so passive about all of this!

I think this is a classic case of people acting out their designated family roles forever. And then raising their kids to do the same (e.g. people pleasing daughter not showing the Snapchat to grandad because she doesnt want to rock the boat with pushy cousin).

Bumblebeestiltskin · 20/05/2025 13:44

SadANDupsetGirl · 20/05/2025 11:16

Not really sure to be honest. Maybe he is just more favoured. I am not money driven and don't want to fight with anyone, so I suppose I have just accepted my fate in all of this. Some families are just unequitable I suppose.

Have you been raised to believe you're a second class citizen compared to your brother? I can't think of another reason for you being so passive about all of this!

BrickBiscuit · 20/05/2025 13:41

JIMER202 · 20/05/2025 13:11

Your parents are foul for this. I’d speak to your dad and ask why brother is inheriting twice and you get nothing!! He got MILLIONS! Wake up! Your kids are going to get nothing whilst his will be set for life. If you have no backbone for yourself have one for your kids at least. Your mother presumably didn’t know your twat brother was going to sell the business and start trying to get your dad out his own home. This is disgusting. Wake up! If your dad puts the home in your name your grabby brother will have to fuck off and your dad can keep living there in peace. Seriously wake up. Why post here if you won’t have a backbone to even do anything anyway

Absolutely speak to dad. Get legal advice before doing so, if suggesting putting anything in your name. Understand the implications. Suggest he does it through a lawyer (not just a will-writer) so he understands them too.

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