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Aibu to not know how to help my immature 15 year old

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PinkChaires · 19/05/2025 23:47

To preface she is on the pathway to get diagnosed with ASD.
my 15f year 10 dd is quite immature. She often acts like a child of 8/9 imo. She gets very easily overwhelmed, and when this happens she either cries or screams/shouts something. She still watches very childish shows eg my little pony from childhood, and hasnt really progressed past this stage. She speaks very loudly all of the time and will only get upset if you tell her to stop. She feels guilt all of the time, but this manifests as her repeatedly going to the person to tell her feels or saying sorry repeatedly. She basically cannot regulate emotions. She often listens to music and walks around the room speaking to herself. She is a very kind person overall, but it has to be obvious- meaning that sometimes she can be quite selfish. (Eg she doesn’t get being considerate). This has gotten better, but she still sometimes interacts with people by just playfully hugging them etc. she often misses social cues/norms. This has come to a head as tonight alot of her friends have told her they dont want to be friends anymore😢 and unfortunately i can kind of see why. Im also worried about her gcses , i just dont think she has the emotional capability to revise/take the tests without getting very stressed out. Do they mature as they get older?

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gingerninja · 21/05/2025 21:13

I think how her behaviour is managed at home and at school (I don’t mean friends but adults) is going to be key to her thriving or suffering a mental health crisis. My AuDHD DD (16) was an absolute handful in early teens and had some very immature behaviour that was frankly exhausting. However, we now know this was largely related to slowly escalating anxiety. She struggled with friends, socially and at school but was academically capable so didn’t stand out to teachers. She was loud, rude, impulsive, never slept, exhausting to be around. Long story short but she went through burnout in year 10 and we had to take her out of school for her own safety. It has taken a very long time to rebuild her confidence and it’s been a massive learning curve for us and we’ve had to learn to parent her differently. It sounds like you’re doing what we did and that is view her behaviour through a NT lens and try and fight against her natural ND behaviour. She needs a safe space where she can be herself because masking is exhausting. Only once she’s got your trust will she listen to your guidance on how to behave in a NT world. This might take time and involves you truly learning about and understanding her. Being in control is a key component of my DDs behaviours and when there was so much conflict and contradiction between her feelings and behaviours and our expectations she just retreated inside herself. Anyway, I guess my simple advice is you don’t need a diagnosis to start learning about and parenting as if she already has that diagnosis. She is going to need a lot of support as will you .

Mumtobabyhavoc · 21/05/2025 19:30

MyOliveHelper · 21/05/2025 18:09

Or tell me id be a better parent than you to an ND child because id have higher expectations of their potential than you.

Jesus, are you here to just inflame ?

mathanxiety · 21/05/2025 19:27

Joycefrancis · 21/05/2025 07:58

Hi
It's ok to feel overwhelmed about your daughters situation, the only thing that can navigate this is the Word of God the doctors can only prescribe medication which is just temporal but God's word over your daughter will bring a permanent healing. The fact is she has ASD but the truth is she is growing in wisdom and might, call forth what you want your daughter to become through the word of God, speak positive words to her. If you need more guidance let me know and I can guide you through it. Your daughter is healed in the name of Jesus Amen

I'm a Christian (RC) and frankly this is ignorant witch doctor nonsense.

mathanxiety · 21/05/2025 19:23

BlackeyedSusan · 20/05/2025 08:28

You need to train her how to behave in various situations but pick your battles. Eg plate licking is only for home and you only do it with mum/on your own. We can learn, and it helps us.

They can get all offended and huffy but do learn.

Appropriate dress (covered up) swimming costumes are for swimming pool, beach, own garden
Which body parts you can touch in public. (Eg no scratching your arse etc)
Which behaviours are seen as disgusting (picking nose, licking plates etc)

Also teach which behaviours of others is dangerous. Be careful with too much independence until she can recognise danger. Autistic girls are very vulnerable.

Absolutely this.

The hugging has to be reined in.
I'd be working on appropriateness pr otherwise of physical contact and how to respond to perceived kindness. Her safety is the bottom line here in a world full of unscrupulous men.

There's a condition called Williams Syndrome that was recently described on the BBC website that might be of interest. It comes with certain facial characteristics, though. Elements include an over trusting nature, inability to understand danger or to have more than a surface level perception of other people's behaviour.

Hankunamatata · 21/05/2025 18:47

Do you think there may be adhd in the mix?
Lack of impulse control around food, constant talking etc

HadToBeYou · 21/05/2025 18:41

Toddlerteaplease · 21/05/2025 10:11

@MyOliveHelper I thought that as well.

You’d be equally clueless then.

Festivespirit85 · 21/05/2025 18:23

PinkChaires · 19/05/2025 23:47

To preface she is on the pathway to get diagnosed with ASD.
my 15f year 10 dd is quite immature. She often acts like a child of 8/9 imo. She gets very easily overwhelmed, and when this happens she either cries or screams/shouts something. She still watches very childish shows eg my little pony from childhood, and hasnt really progressed past this stage. She speaks very loudly all of the time and will only get upset if you tell her to stop. She feels guilt all of the time, but this manifests as her repeatedly going to the person to tell her feels or saying sorry repeatedly. She basically cannot regulate emotions. She often listens to music and walks around the room speaking to herself. She is a very kind person overall, but it has to be obvious- meaning that sometimes she can be quite selfish. (Eg she doesn’t get being considerate). This has gotten better, but she still sometimes interacts with people by just playfully hugging them etc. she often misses social cues/norms. This has come to a head as tonight alot of her friends have told her they dont want to be friends anymore😢 and unfortunately i can kind of see why. Im also worried about her gcses , i just dont think she has the emotional capability to revise/take the tests without getting very stressed out. Do they mature as they get older?

My ND child is 11 and is emotionally and mentally at the age of a 8 year old. There are some behaviours (plate licking) that need reminding aren't acceptable. But as for friendships and regulation, reach out to the Autistic society, and speak to the SEN team about interventions around those issues.

Festivespirit85 · 21/05/2025 18:19

MyOliveHelper · 21/05/2025 18:09

Or tell me id be a better parent than you to an ND child because id have higher expectations of their potential than you.

Considering I am a ND parent so, I know what in talking about, you need to get back on your self-righteous horse and take your apathetic self back under your rock.

DaftNoodle · 21/05/2025 18:17

Have a look at the Autistic Girls Network charity, there are loads of resources on there and info. My autistic 14 year old is very similar and struggled socially so much. She’s home educated now and much better and she attends a youth club for young people with ALN which she finds much easier socially as it is very inclusive and accepting of everyone’s different needs.

MyOliveHelper · 21/05/2025 18:09

Festivespirit85 · 21/05/2025 18:05

Tell me you know no nothing about being ND, without telling me you know nothing about being ND 🙄

Or tell me id be a better parent than you to an ND child because id have higher expectations of their potential than you.

Festivespirit85 · 21/05/2025 18:05

MyOliveHelper · 20/05/2025 07:35

Have you ever said to her that she's behaving like a 3 year old and it isnt appropriate?

Tell me you know no nothing about being ND, without telling me you know nothing about being ND 🙄

PinkChaires · 21/05/2025 11:57

Whatafustercluck · 21/05/2025 09:41

@PinkChaires I'm kindly going to suggest you post for advice on the SEN boards. As evidenced on this thread, discussion around autism often descends into a bun fight with people falling into one of two camps:

  • All autistic people are the same and therefore all are capable of learning and amending their behaviour/ reactions
  • All autistic people are unable to learn or amend their behaviours/ reactions

Your dd may be capable of learning what is/ isn't appropriate, or she may not. In truth, it is harder to correct troubling behaviours as a child grows older. If they're able to learn/ adjust then it's usually better to start when they're younger. I'm not saying it's a lost cause, but just that you'll get a lot incorrect information and assumptions on this thread from people who are projecting. If you post on the SEN boards you're more likely to find someone in a similar situation.

Good luck. Your dd sounds lovely.

Edited

Yeah i think i will do so later. I have an awkward situation as well as the closest (ex) friend’ sin her friendship group mum is really quite desperate to be friends with me as she doesn’t have many herself, but i only had the friendship due to my daughter. She asked me today why im not responding to messages, so do i tell her? The messages they sent are quite harsh tbh but i know the mother will be angry at her daughter

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Toddlerteaplease · 21/05/2025 10:11

@MyOliveHelper I thought that as well.

Whatafustercluck · 21/05/2025 09:41

@PinkChaires I'm kindly going to suggest you post for advice on the SEN boards. As evidenced on this thread, discussion around autism often descends into a bun fight with people falling into one of two camps:

  • All autistic people are the same and therefore all are capable of learning and amending their behaviour/ reactions
  • All autistic people are unable to learn or amend their behaviours/ reactions

Your dd may be capable of learning what is/ isn't appropriate, or she may not. In truth, it is harder to correct troubling behaviours as a child grows older. If they're able to learn/ adjust then it's usually better to start when they're younger. I'm not saying it's a lost cause, but just that you'll get a lot incorrect information and assumptions on this thread from people who are projecting. If you post on the SEN boards you're more likely to find someone in a similar situation.

Good luck. Your dd sounds lovely.

FedupofArsenalgame · 21/05/2025 09:39

faerietales · 20/05/2025 07:37

She’s on the pathway to being diagnosed with autism - telling her she’s being inappropriate isn’t remotely helpful.

Surely she won't learn that her behaviour is inappropriate if nobody says anything though

Joycefrancis · 21/05/2025 09:34

I never mention that her daughter is broken, I only advised her she will find strength to pull through the situation through the word of God, if you are truly a Christian you shouldn't find anything wrong with what I have posted. Shalom

Geneticsbunny · 21/05/2025 08:56

@Joycefrancis as a fellow christian, I don't think that have fully considered the OP and her family before posting.

The implication of what you posted is that her daughter is broken and needs fixing by being healed from asd. This is not what she has asked for and I don't think it is an appropriate way to offer to help her.

You will have offended a lot of people with your post and turned people against Christianity

If I were you I would apologise and ask for your original post to be taken down.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 21/05/2025 08:06

Joycefrancis · 21/05/2025 07:58

Hi
It's ok to feel overwhelmed about your daughters situation, the only thing that can navigate this is the Word of God the doctors can only prescribe medication which is just temporal but God's word over your daughter will bring a permanent healing. The fact is she has ASD but the truth is she is growing in wisdom and might, call forth what you want your daughter to become through the word of God, speak positive words to her. If you need more guidance let me know and I can guide you through it. Your daughter is healed in the name of Jesus Amen

Huh? 🤦‍♀️🙄

Joycefrancis · 21/05/2025 07:58

Hi
It's ok to feel overwhelmed about your daughters situation, the only thing that can navigate this is the Word of God the doctors can only prescribe medication which is just temporal but God's word over your daughter will bring a permanent healing. The fact is she has ASD but the truth is she is growing in wisdom and might, call forth what you want your daughter to become through the word of God, speak positive words to her. If you need more guidance let me know and I can guide you through it. Your daughter is healed in the name of Jesus Amen

Aibu to not know how to help my immature 15 year old
TheBirdintheCave · 20/05/2025 22:41

PinkChaires · 20/05/2025 20:47

Today at school she approached her other close friends group at break and apparently two of the girls said that ‘ they weren’t comfortable adding new people’ breaks my heart honestly. Obviously ive only highlighted the negatives here, but she is such a kind generous and wonderful girl. I really want to help her so others can focus more on that side of her. She had parents evening tonight and smashed it - i dont really help her academically at all as well.

So sorry to hear that happened to her :( I’m also autistic and experienced similar rejection in high school. I found better friends (other people as strange as me!) at university.

PinkChaires · 20/05/2025 20:47

Today at school she approached her other close friends group at break and apparently two of the girls said that ‘ they weren’t comfortable adding new people’ breaks my heart honestly. Obviously ive only highlighted the negatives here, but she is such a kind generous and wonderful girl. I really want to help her so others can focus more on that side of her. She had parents evening tonight and smashed it - i dont really help her academically at all as well.

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DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/05/2025 19:11

dovetail22uk · 20/05/2025 09:44

Yes, this can be very much an autistic person. Why do you not accept your child as they are? Instead of wanting to change them, change their environment and look after them.

what do you suggest? How do you change 15 year old girls who don't like sitting with someone who licks their plate in public? I'm afraid the OP probably can't do that.

Continualloop · 20/05/2025 13:14

M3again · 20/05/2025 12:38

Well part of getting an autism diagnosis is social difficulties so expecting ND kids to be “well socialised” is ridiculous.

Everyone can be better or worse socialised.

But you carry on thinking that no autistic person can ever learn or be helped to find ways to have better relationships with other people and have a better life as a result.

M3again · 20/05/2025 12:40

ClosetBasketCase · 20/05/2025 11:56

Autism isnt an excuse for poor behaviour - and children with it must still be held to account for bahaviours exhibited. the only difference is teaching the child how to idetify and controll said behavious.

You can’t expect ND to control all their behaviours. They wouldn’t have a diagnosis if you could and controlling/masking natural behaviours can be hugely damaging.

M3again · 20/05/2025 12:38

Continualloop · 20/05/2025 12:04

What people dislike is people behaving in ways that make them unlikeable.

If a child behaves like this but the parents think that, on principle, the child should not have to change but others should befriend them anyway, then the parents have not served them well.

I think my kids are glorious too. I still teach them how to be well socialized.

Well part of getting an autism diagnosis is social difficulties so expecting ND kids to be “well socialised” is ridiculous.

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