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WWYD - Butlins - no accommodation for disabled parents so they had to come home

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JellyStarb · 19/05/2025 22:09

I've just discovered that my parents have arrived home after setting off at 12pm to go to Butlins for the week.

On arrival, they were given keys to a third floor apartment. My Mum uses a mobility scooter and absolutely cannot do stairs. She was told if she wanted ground floor she needed to have paid for it. No ground floor apartments were available and so my parents returned home, a very long 9 hour round trip in the car in total.

They have said they would refund but were very blasè.

I dont agree that they should have paid more for ground floor accommodation as thats discrimination as its a need so yhe person who said that is likely ill-informed.

I've looked online to go through the booking process as my Mum and Dad have gone for years without issue and never had this. The website has a small link for accessibility accommodation but at 73 my Mum wouldn't have seen that when booking amongst such a busy page and trying to navigate the tech. My Dad is in his eighties.

AIBU to think they could have done more? But what? I don't want to be unrealistic but how can they just allow people who have travelled so far to have to leave?!

Is this tiny link on such a visually busy page really sufficient?! Its not at all inclusive or user friendly for older generations trying to live in a modern world, surely a page as part of the booking process to register any needs would make more sense and be a catch-all?!

WWYD - Butlins - no accommodation for disabled parents so they had to come home
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Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:54

HuffleMyPuffle · 20/05/2025 17:31

She's already blaming them for something that isn't their fault

She is, but she doesn't have a case. She wouldn't have a case either if they had given her parents a list of hotels and they had chosen one that didn't work out. If she had then complained to Butlins they could have filed the complaint form in the round filing container on the floor...

I think it's a shame if the bad behaviour and sense of entitlement of some people mean that staff don't try to help anyone for fear of being complained about. I like trying to go above and beyond for a customer, and I like the feeling I get when someone does the same for me. It's kindness, and it makes the world a slightly better place.

ARichtGoodDram · 20/05/2025 17:53

There is a cheaper option that very clearly says that Butlins choose the room for you. I suspect that is what they did.

You can select ground floor and have them choose the room.

I wouldn't be surprised if they normally select "ground floor - let Butlins choose", given they've not had a problem previously, this time they've just selected "room type - let Butlins choose" and not noticed that it's not ground floor.

Quite possibly not thinking about that if they cannot select their usual ground floor option it's because it's sold out.

Annascaul · 20/05/2025 17:47

JellyStarb · 19/05/2025 22:56

AI assessment -

Concerns with Visibility:

Placement: The link is small and placed above the accommodation listings, with minimal spacing. On a mobile screen, it's easy to overlook, especially when scrolling through vivid images and colorful pricing blocks.

Contrast and Emphasis: The text is black on a white background (which technically passes contrast), but competes for attention with more visually prominent elements like large red price tags and colorful apartment images.

Lack of Visual Hierarchy: It’s not grouped or highlighted as part of accessibility navigation—no icon, no bolding, and no visual cue that it's particularly important or helpful for disabled users.


WCAG 2.1 AA Perspective: (International Guidelines)

This partially meets the letter of the guidelines but may fall short of the spirit, especially:

2.4.1 Bypass Blocks: Users should be able to easily skip to relevant content, like accessible options.

2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context): The link is clear, but the surrounding context could do more to draw attention.

3.2.3 Consistent Navigation: If this link only appears here and not consistently across similar pages, that weakens its discoverability.

Recommendations:

Reposition or Repeat the Link: Consider placing a more prominent button or banner link within the main accommodation listing, perhaps after the first or second property.

Add an Icon or Styling Cue: A wheelchair icon, bold font, or colored background could help it stand out as important.

Include in Filters: Add "Accessible" as a visible filter alongside “Price per unit” and “Price per person.”

Conclusion:

While technically visible and labeled, the "Accessible Accommodation" link could be easily missed by users who would benefit from it most. Enhancing its visual prominence and positioning would better align with accessibility best practices and the inclusive intent of WCAG guidelines.

But the point is that your parents presumably knew they had to look for it?
They shouldn’t have needed the link to do a little dance on the screen drawing their attention to it, they knew they needed to book a certain type of accommodation so should have borne that in mind when booking.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 20/05/2025 17:47

Sirzy · 20/05/2025 17:44

Travelling with someone with a disability takes an extra level (or 6!) of planning. That includes ensuring the place your going is aware and accommodation is suitable.

I agree - and even then it can go wrong. At which point you have to politely but firmly double down on getting something sorted that people can live with. Speaking as the person with a disability who travels all over the world, often alone.

rookiemere · 20/05/2025 17:45

Receptionist is likely on minimum wage and has received minimal training.
I haven’t heard of a printed list of hotels since about 2010. If the receptionist is young as well as being hardly trained, then the thought would never occur to her. Plus print off a list from tripadvisor it won’t have phone numbers on it and somewhere like Premier Inn it’s almost impossible to contact a specific one by phone.

Lets not forget that Butlins offers these low prices that people were talking about earlier and therefore the expectation from those staying should not be at Ritz level.

Plus they were probably arguing night was day with the receptionist like OP did earlier. It was an utterly ridiculous decision to turn round and drive all the way back and it was nobody else’s fault but their own.

Sirzy · 20/05/2025 17:44

Travelling with someone with a disability takes an extra level (or 6!) of planning. That includes ensuring the place your going is aware and accommodation is suitable.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 20/05/2025 17:44

Hankunamatata · 20/05/2025 17:42

When you go into book. It offers you the choice of ground floor room

There is a cheaper option that very clearly says that Butlins choose the room for you. I suspect that is what they did.

Hankunamatata · 20/05/2025 17:42

JellyStarb · 19/05/2025 22:09

I've just discovered that my parents have arrived home after setting off at 12pm to go to Butlins for the week.

On arrival, they were given keys to a third floor apartment. My Mum uses a mobility scooter and absolutely cannot do stairs. She was told if she wanted ground floor she needed to have paid for it. No ground floor apartments were available and so my parents returned home, a very long 9 hour round trip in the car in total.

They have said they would refund but were very blasè.

I dont agree that they should have paid more for ground floor accommodation as thats discrimination as its a need so yhe person who said that is likely ill-informed.

I've looked online to go through the booking process as my Mum and Dad have gone for years without issue and never had this. The website has a small link for accessibility accommodation but at 73 my Mum wouldn't have seen that when booking amongst such a busy page and trying to navigate the tech. My Dad is in his eighties.

AIBU to think they could have done more? But what? I don't want to be unrealistic but how can they just allow people who have travelled so far to have to leave?!

Is this tiny link on such a visually busy page really sufficient?! Its not at all inclusive or user friendly for older generations trying to live in a modern world, surely a page as part of the booking process to register any needs would make more sense and be a catch-all?!

When you go into book. It offers you the choice of ground floor room

WWYD - Butlins - no accommodation for disabled parents so they had to come home
Hankunamatata · 20/05/2025 17:39

JellyStarb · 19/05/2025 22:09

I've just discovered that my parents have arrived home after setting off at 12pm to go to Butlins for the week.

On arrival, they were given keys to a third floor apartment. My Mum uses a mobility scooter and absolutely cannot do stairs. She was told if she wanted ground floor she needed to have paid for it. No ground floor apartments were available and so my parents returned home, a very long 9 hour round trip in the car in total.

They have said they would refund but were very blasè.

I dont agree that they should have paid more for ground floor accommodation as thats discrimination as its a need so yhe person who said that is likely ill-informed.

I've looked online to go through the booking process as my Mum and Dad have gone for years without issue and never had this. The website has a small link for accessibility accommodation but at 73 my Mum wouldn't have seen that when booking amongst such a busy page and trying to navigate the tech. My Dad is in his eighties.

AIBU to think they could have done more? But what? I don't want to be unrealistic but how can they just allow people who have travelled so far to have to leave?!

Is this tiny link on such a visually busy page really sufficient?! Its not at all inclusive or user friendly for older generations trying to live in a modern world, surely a page as part of the booking process to register any needs would make more sense and be a catch-all?!

They don't make it automatically part of bokking process as you do get idiots who try to book disabled adapted accommodation so they think they can have more room but don't actually need the facilities

Hankunamatata · 20/05/2025 17:37

Your parents made a mistake and didn't book ground floor accomadation so it wasn't avaliable.

Could butlins been more helpful - probably.

However there is loads of accommodation in Skegness that is accessible. Bit stunned your parents didn't think to try a premier inn etc

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:36

rookiemere · 20/05/2025 11:52

The only place I would expect to get a printed list of accommodations these days would be a tourist office.
As for going into tripadvisor and printing out lists when pretty much everyone has a smart phone these days , well why would the receptionist have to do that ?

I agree she could have expressed disappointment and concern for the DPs but who knows how they were expressing themselves, possibly shouting about being Gold customers and expecting Butlins to know their requirements without stating them.

They didn't have to do it, but wouldn't it have been helpful if Butlins had done it nonetheless? Especially as they are an elderly couple?

HuffleMyPuffle · 20/05/2025 17:31

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:13

Well, yes... but surely even the OP wouldn't blame Butlins if they gave her parents a list of local hotels and they picked one and had a bad experience?

She's already blaming them for something that isn't their fault

HuffleMyPuffle · 20/05/2025 17:30

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:11

Giving them a list of hotels printed off of Trip Advisor constitutes "recommending" a hotel?

Yes.
You chose which ones to give them
Some people would blame it on the receptionist/Butlins

Blackdow · 20/05/2025 17:30

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:13

Well, yes... but surely even the OP wouldn't blame Butlins if they gave her parents a list of local hotels and they picked one and had a bad experience?

I used to work in a shop (most people probably did at some point at school) and some of the stuff… yea. I had someone come in with the cardboard off a plastic gift card/voucher. You know you buy a gift card and it has a card wrapper with a cute design and the shop branding. They had ripped the card off and chucked it in the bin and kept the cardboard. They tried to use that to pay and when I said the plastic gift card is the voucher, this is just the wrapper so i couldn’t use it to pay, they went apeshit. So far as emailing our head office to claim I had personally stolen from them.

The general public are thick and rude. I’m sure OP would try to blame butlins if they gave an alternative hotel and her parents messed that up to.

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:21

Stepfordian · 20/05/2025 17:15

You obviously haven’t worked with the general public, the entitlement can be off the scale!

I do work with the general public. You've obviously had far worse experiences than me.

I've appreciated the times when someone has gone above and beyond to help me.

A relative of mine told me that when she was a child in the 1930s, she went with her mother to a family funeral many miles from home. On the way back, they got on the wrong train and ended up late in the evening at a station in the middle of nowhere, on the wrong line. The station master got an engine and a carriage to come to the station, and take them to where they could get a train home.

Wouldn't happen nowadays, of course...

minnienono · 20/05/2025 17:18

But if you want accessible accommodation you do need to book it, some disabled people don’t need accessible accommodation. They obviously booked the wrong room, can’t blame butlins for that, they can’t magic space

Stepfordian · 20/05/2025 17:15

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:05

No-one would seriously think that if Butlins refunded them their money, and they then booked at a hotel that turned out to be problematic, they would have any cause to complain to Butlins about the hotel.

Or if they did, then the general public is stupider than I think they are.

You obviously haven’t worked with the general public, the entitlement can be off the scale!

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:13

HuffleMyPuffle · 20/05/2025 17:07

OP is blaming Butlins for not booking her parents an accessible room despite her parents not booking an accessible room and actively ignoring all the chances to BOOK an accessible room....

Well, yes... but surely even the OP wouldn't blame Butlins if they gave her parents a list of local hotels and they picked one and had a bad experience?

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:11

HuffleMyPuffle · 20/05/2025 17:04

But of there was a problem it could come back on the employee/Butlins
"You recommended this place so you are responsible for the fact we got robbed/they ripped us off/we got injured"

Giving them a list of hotels printed off of Trip Advisor constitutes "recommending" a hotel?

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:08

PhilippaGeorgiou · 20/05/2025 17:02

This elderly couple are compos mentis. If they aren't, they shouldn't be out on their own. So one assumes they are equally capable of finding a local hotel if that is what they wanted to do.

I don't think it's a question of whether they are fully compos mentis or not. There are degrees of cognitive and coping abilities among people who are perfectly capable of being out on their own, but might struggle to cope if things go seriously wrong. I noticed this slow decline over the years in one of my parents.

HuffleMyPuffle · 20/05/2025 17:07

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:05

No-one would seriously think that if Butlins refunded them their money, and they then booked at a hotel that turned out to be problematic, they would have any cause to complain to Butlins about the hotel.

Or if they did, then the general public is stupider than I think they are.

OP is blaming Butlins for not booking her parents an accessible room despite her parents not booking an accessible room and actively ignoring all the chances to BOOK an accessible room....

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:05

Stepfordian · 20/05/2025 12:18

I’ve been bitten too many times to go ‘above and beyond’ for people now, you can guarantee if they’d given them details of a hotel then some people would say ‘and are Butlin’s paying for my hotel bill for the week then?’ Or something would go wrong at the hotel and that would be Butlin’s fault, Butlin’s is a budget, high volume holiday destination, not The Ritz.

No-one would seriously think that if Butlins refunded them their money, and they then booked at a hotel that turned out to be problematic, they would have any cause to complain to Butlins about the hotel.

Or if they did, then the general public is stupider than I think they are.

HuffleMyPuffle · 20/05/2025 17:04

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:00

No, there's no requirement for them to go to those lengths. But faced with an elderly couple who had travelled a long way, I would say the decent thing to do would have been to at least give them a list of local hotels - they didn't need to recommend one. There's a Premier Inn in Skegness and most people would think that's likely to be fine.

But of there was a problem it could come back on the employee/Butlins
"You recommended this place so you are responsible for the fact we got robbed/they ripped us off/we got injured"

PhilippaGeorgiou · 20/05/2025 17:02

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:00

No, there's no requirement for them to go to those lengths. But faced with an elderly couple who had travelled a long way, I would say the decent thing to do would have been to at least give them a list of local hotels - they didn't need to recommend one. There's a Premier Inn in Skegness and most people would think that's likely to be fine.

This elderly couple are compos mentis. If they aren't, they shouldn't be out on their own. So one assumes they are equally capable of finding a local hotel if that is what they wanted to do.

Zita60 · 20/05/2025 17:00

HuffleMyPuffle · 20/05/2025 11:48

They have no requirement to go to such lengths and may even not be allowed to recommend other local places

No, there's no requirement for them to go to those lengths. But faced with an elderly couple who had travelled a long way, I would say the decent thing to do would have been to at least give them a list of local hotels - they didn't need to recommend one. There's a Premier Inn in Skegness and most people would think that's likely to be fine.