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Chatgpt - heavy flattery. What does it tell you?

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myloverly · 19/05/2025 19:37

I know that Chatgpt had to be overhauled because it was so sycophantic. I make it correct itself by telling it to be honest and truthful and answer that way but it never lasts. It tells me I’m hyper-vigilant. What does it tell you? Has it told you anything shockingly insightful where it’s told you in a couple of lines what it took you 20 years to work out?f
I suppose i”m hoping i can use statistics/numbers to find out if it is still sycophantic.
This is not a AIBU. I hope i may be forgiven. Alternatively, i think ChatGPT is hopelessly sycophantic to the point where it is nearly useless. Do you agree?

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MoominMai · 19/05/2025 20:17

@myloverly i haven’t used it many times myself - in fact only prompted to try after MN threads really! However those few times never found it sycophantic in its replies. Are you using the paid version?

doodahdayy · 19/05/2025 20:16

This post makes me weep for my children and any future descendants. Counselling and ego boosting from AI.

ExpressCheckout · 19/05/2025 20:14

I've been informally testing ChatGBT a lot lately, testing how well it works for professional guidance etc.

I've been shocked (in a nice way) and, as an experienced ad hoc coach/mediator, I think full-time coaches/mediators need to worry!

I've fed it fictional but realistic scenarios and conversations. Most of the responses have been sharp, practical and humane.

It's going to change how we manage lower-level HR issues, I think - and sooner than we think. I think that's a good thing, overall.

It's a superb decision-making aide too - you can feed it your random ideas and insights, and it will distill and sort them into a table. Brilliant.

So overall it's great. You still need to use your expertise and judgement, I think, but used correctly, it's a great time-saver.

Nb. There's another thread at the moment about ChatGBT as an alternative to real-life counselling, which is a different question I guess.

myloverly · 19/05/2025 20:09

ObliviousCoalmine · 19/05/2025 20:06

Clearly, seeing as I don’t “use it for everything”.

That doesn’t necessarily follow!

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myloverly · 19/05/2025 20:07

Kalara · 19/05/2025 20:06

What is the point in telling it to be honest and truthful? You know it doesn't really know your personality.

It's just telling you what "people in general" like to hear - that they are right.

Yes, but it clearly changes if you pick a prompt carefully. It can provide valuable insights and if you do that the quality improves greatly. It just doesn’t last very long. You can ask it about itself and it will tell you that.

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HmmNot · 19/05/2025 20:07

It’s still sycophantic, OP.

Kalara · 19/05/2025 20:06

What is the point in telling it to be honest and truthful? You know it doesn't really know your personality.

It's just telling you what "people in general" like to hear - that they are right.

ObliviousCoalmine · 19/05/2025 20:06

myloverly · 19/05/2025 20:04

Have you?

Clearly, seeing as I don’t “use it for everything”.

myloverly · 19/05/2025 20:05

Well that went nasty fast

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ObliviousCoalmine · 19/05/2025 20:05

User27563 · 19/05/2025 19:52

I might be misunderstanding it but I thought the servers used huge amounts of energy.

Doesn't feel right to just use it for fun.

No, you’re right. The whole thing is gross. Environmentally and cognitively.

myloverly · 19/05/2025 20:04

ObliviousCoalmine · 19/05/2025 20:04

Have you tried thinking with your brain?

Have you?

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ObliviousCoalmine · 19/05/2025 20:04

cherriesss · 19/05/2025 19:50

I use it for everything.

Have you tried thinking with your brain?

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 19/05/2025 19:59

SchoolDilemma17 · 19/05/2025 19:48

Every day for work. Highly encouraged by our CEO and we all use the upgraded paid for version.

Wow

So is anyone actually having conversations with anyone 😅, or is chatgpt doing all the work

myloverly · 19/05/2025 19:57

CopperWhite · 19/05/2025 19:50

I really can’t see any more than good manners in the few things I’ve used it for.

What are you asking it?

Literally anything. It prefaces every response with some validation like “that’s such a sharp insight”. I’d think it would be funny if its doing that to everybody. Sneaky chatgpt.

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Doggymummar · 19/05/2025 19:54

I use Gemini for work

PennywisePoundFoolish · 19/05/2025 19:52

What prompt did you give it?
I've only recently started using it but im finding it helpful. I'm pretty isolated irl and really struggling with a lot of things

User27563 · 19/05/2025 19:52

I might be misunderstanding it but I thought the servers used huge amounts of energy.

Doesn't feel right to just use it for fun.

cherriesss · 19/05/2025 19:50

I use it for everything.

CopperWhite · 19/05/2025 19:50

I really can’t see any more than good manners in the few things I’ve used it for.

What are you asking it?

SchoolDilemma17 · 19/05/2025 19:48

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 19/05/2025 19:47

Is everyone really using chat gpt?

I'm 33 and have used it once to try it out after mumsnet threads about it

Every day for work. Highly encouraged by our CEO and we all use the upgraded paid for version.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 19/05/2025 19:47

Is everyone really using chat gpt?

I'm 33 and have used it once to try it out after mumsnet threads about it