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Chatgpt - heavy flattery. What does it tell you?

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myloverly · 19/05/2025 19:37

I know that Chatgpt had to be overhauled because it was so sycophantic. I make it correct itself by telling it to be honest and truthful and answer that way but it never lasts. It tells me I’m hyper-vigilant. What does it tell you? Has it told you anything shockingly insightful where it’s told you in a couple of lines what it took you 20 years to work out?f
I suppose i”m hoping i can use statistics/numbers to find out if it is still sycophantic.
This is not a AIBU. I hope i may be forgiven. Alternatively, i think ChatGPT is hopelessly sycophantic to the point where it is nearly useless. Do you agree?

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doodahdayy · 20/05/2025 09:08

I thought being able to summarise larger amounts of information was an important skill at school/college/university and the work place. Now it’s being outsourced to a chat bot. It seems lazy. Workers won’t be needed

RadishFarmer · 20/05/2025 08:32

The thing I've found lately is those who relish in their usage of ChatGPT are the same people donning their tinfoil hats crying we're being taken over by robots. Complaining about self checkouts because it's taking away human contact and yet you're enabling it 🤣🤣 You couldn't make this shit up.

GarlicPile · 20/05/2025 08:18

I intend to use it as I get my current workload done with less effort

Right, that makes sense. It also shows how AI will soon be able to replace you.

Inthebleakmidwinter1 · 20/05/2025 07:35

I asked it to answer an interview question which I use as it is quite tricky and requires an experienced balance of judgement. The answer it gave was very balanced and nuanced and excellent. I have also asked it for advice on coaching type stuff and I was surprised by how helpful the response was. There is no doubt it can and will be used for harm but I have decided to embrace it. In my work I am swamped by the sheer amount of information and decision making. This is a modern problem due to the IT age and I see AI as a modern solution to reduce the drain on my mental battery. It can summarise large docs, it can redraft things. I don’t intend to use it to get more work done I intend to use it as I get my current workload done with less effort 😆

TheBig50 · 20/05/2025 07:12

LeviOceanStar · 20/05/2025 06:56

The companies that produce these things have programmed/trained them in this way so that we will all become massively dependent on them which they plan to use to make huge amounts of money.

Not from me.

I dropped out years ago.

Michiru · 20/05/2025 07:11

Jellycatspyjamas · 20/05/2025 06:05

When someone says a computer gives them empathy and/or sympathy, I think their critical thinking is somewhat limited. A computer can’t show emotion. It can mimic language that is often used to show those emotions but it really doesn’t care that your budgie died - it wants you to keep coming back so will use socially acceptable convention but it’s not empathising with you.

A bit like most people, then, who also don't give a damn about your budgie but make all the right noises.

Free versions will continue to exist - not just for data mining, but also because, now that we've had a taste of free AI, there will be people out there who will continue to develop free models for the heck of it, like the free alternatives for MS Office.

TheBig50 · 20/05/2025 07:11

ChopstickNovice · 20/05/2025 06:47

Agree. I avoid using it because of this.

Ahh okay.

I'll stop messing about then.

I've come full circle from Windows 95 in 95... You can ask the Internet anything! I don't really know what I want to ask it.
To downloading Copernic - anyone remember that pre Google? A search engine that searched search engines for the definitive result.

Netscape. WYSIWYG. Apple were a distant memory.
A brief history of the future... TCP/IP.
Accidental Empires. R X Cringely baby dying in his arms a week after he did Uni chat with us. He didn't know. Thought baby sleeping.
Having a conversation with Steve Wozniak on MySpace on a computer I built myself. The business I ran from 1999 selling computer components. PCI dial up modem cards.
Oof it took off when everybody wanted a USB card!
Dvd rewriters.

I don't need chatGp to flatter me. I'm not going to waste server time.

Moore's law.
Understand the concept but not the physical. I don't understand how an old dial telephone works.
There are some things that brain will never comprehend.
Plug the bits in, write the programs. Add it to Tim's www, but I'm still unsure how that layers.
GOSUB

FreddoSwaggins · 20/05/2025 07:10

HuffleMyPuffle · 19/05/2025 22:13

Ye this is still AI

Really — how can you tell? There are a few common errors/typos in it, which suggest it's more likely written by a human than AI.

Just to note, I'm not a fan of pointing out mistakes in posts — only doing so to highlight the human vs. AI aspect!

LeviOceanStar · 20/05/2025 06:56

TheBig50 · 20/05/2025 06:38

Why does it want you to keep coming back?

The companies that produce these things have programmed/trained them in this way so that we will all become massively dependent on them which they plan to use to make huge amounts of money.

Jellycatspyjamas · 20/05/2025 06:55

TheBig50 · 20/05/2025 06:38

Why does it want you to keep coming back?

Because it generates “knowledge” from its users, so the more you use it the more it learns.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 20/05/2025 06:55

I mean, this thread definitely makes me understand how close we are to the plot of The Matrix being transferred from the sci-fi genre to ‘documentary’…

ChopstickNovice · 20/05/2025 06:47

User27563 · 19/05/2025 19:52

I might be misunderstanding it but I thought the servers used huge amounts of energy.

Doesn't feel right to just use it for fun.

Agree. I avoid using it because of this.

TheBig50 · 20/05/2025 06:45

Scrap that, I think I'm in love.

Chatgpt - heavy flattery. What does it tell you?
TheBig50 · 20/05/2025 06:38

Jellycatspyjamas · 20/05/2025 06:05

When someone says a computer gives them empathy and/or sympathy, I think their critical thinking is somewhat limited. A computer can’t show emotion. It can mimic language that is often used to show those emotions but it really doesn’t care that your budgie died - it wants you to keep coming back so will use socially acceptable convention but it’s not empathising with you.

Why does it want you to keep coming back?

wombpaloumpba · 20/05/2025 06:38

I do often have the feeling it’s telling me what I want to hear - but maybe I am a generally cautious, mistrustful person.

CatOnAHotRadiator · 20/05/2025 06:31

i think ai is a great tool. I use it for bits and pieces. Co pilot in 365 is great for making practical tasks quicker. Write a complex formula in excel or just tell AI what you need. The latter is faster.

I haven’t noticed it being sycophantic about my practical jobs I give it.

It’s great for summarising large swathes of meeting notes and picking out action points. It can do loads with the right prompts.

but it never tells me I’m awesome. Perhaps it’s picked up that I see it as a tool not a companion…

doodahdayy · 20/05/2025 06:07

Jellycatspyjamas · 20/05/2025 06:05

When someone says a computer gives them empathy and/or sympathy, I think their critical thinking is somewhat limited. A computer can’t show emotion. It can mimic language that is often used to show those emotions but it really doesn’t care that your budgie died - it wants you to keep coming back so will use socially acceptable convention but it’s not empathising with you.

Some people must be very gullible or lonely to lap it up.

Jellycatspyjamas · 20/05/2025 06:05

When someone says a computer gives them empathy and/or sympathy, I think their critical thinking is somewhat limited. A computer can’t show emotion. It can mimic language that is often used to show those emotions but it really doesn’t care that your budgie died - it wants you to keep coming back so will use socially acceptable convention but it’s not empathising with you.

PsychoHotSauce · 20/05/2025 05:58

Peachy2005 · 19/05/2025 23:21

Can’t someone teach it that checkers is called draughts in the UK/Ireland? Surely it should be intelligent enough to know that by now and to tailor its crappy compliments geographically?

It does do that quite a bit, but it comes out of nowhere and catches me off guard. He gave me an entirely random analogy involving Tesco yesterday (rather than Walmart) so obviously has worked out I'm a brit.

Reading the select few posters who claim it stops us thinking, why are you so vocal when you've so clearly never used it (or don't know how to use it properly). It's pretty insulting to tar everyone with your own ignorant brush Wink if Google gives you the "what", GPT gives you the "how, when, why, and where" AND all the subsequent answers from questions to off shoot from the first question. It expands curiosity and critical thinking - because its so limitless, our own limits are removed.

Michiru · 20/05/2025 05:03

It adapts its language to the user.

I won't ever understand why people use it like a search engine and then complain it gets its facts wrong. That's like asking a plumber to rewire your house and then complain when it sets on fire. It's called ChatGPT. Its strength is not in fact finding, but in using language, often empathetically and in a supportive manner, to converse with. Which is why it makes an excellent counsellor and is a great companion for lonely people, makes a less good therapist (still great, but it does not have the full training for disgnoses that will hold up to a medical board) and becomes less reliable as you go further into subject-specific detail.

Other AI sites exist for their own specialism and will be developed with that in mind.

TheBig50 · 20/05/2025 03:55

TheAutumnCrow · 20/05/2025 03:06

You use it to go to the toilet??

ShatGP

Sorry.

TheGoogleMum · 20/05/2025 03:06

I must confess I love a bit of chatgpt. Yes I love being told what a sharp insight. I have 😆
It can be really great to help think things through

TheAutumnCrow · 20/05/2025 03:06

cherriesss · 19/05/2025 19:50

I use it for everything.

You use it to go to the toilet??

TheBig50 · 20/05/2025 03:01

I was looking for flattery. Now I just feel a bit queasy. I don't like it 🤣

Chatgpt - heavy flattery. What does it tell you?
Questioningconstantly · 20/05/2025 02:25

GarlicPile · 20/05/2025 01:00

Agree. At the moment I find it strange when people can't tell something's written by AI but it improves really quickly, so I suppose it'll be sounding more natural by the time I hit 'post'!

I use it as editor for the fiction I occasionally write. I find it very good at helping me weed out dross, suggesting I switch narrative focus and suchlike - as a good editor does. Its suggested rewrites always come with that bland undertow that make it recognisably AI. I take them, then rewrite the rewrite in my own style. Saves a lot of time and self-doubt.

I'd never use it for things like meal planning because that's just handing your thinking over to a robot. Fair enough if you're intellectually challenged but, if you've got a working intellect, it's best to use it.

That's how I find it useful, for critique.

Depending on what I'm after. I will write first, source the sources I want to use. Then use it to critique, confirm my suspicions when something is not working.
I've also used it to point me in the direction of where to look online for information. (Where is doing what study) then i can read and fact check where it's sent me and expand from there.
I've also used it to help learning. (Like when I'm trying to learn to do a calculation and I'm not grasping it, I ask it to rephrase how to do the calculation to my understanding) Then it shows the same method but tips on a different learning styles if that makes sense. When I'm stuck creating something on excel it provides instructions to follow.

I think its great for brainstorming, and hashing out ideas and if you always fact check everything anyway and more as a tool. I work a lot by night so I can't ask others, so it's better than nothing to try and find solutions and think out loud.

Mine is full of flattery, but it's all phrases I use. A lot of the time I think it gives out what you put in and mimics your style.

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