WIBU if I complain about this teacher?

Absolutely blown away by this! Are you out of your mind OP? Of course you are being unreasonable, and I sincerely hope that your son hasn’t picked up on your views on this. Bloody hell.

Do not complain about this. Imagine the message it will send your son.

If I was the parent of the child who was being attacked I would be reporting these vile boys to the police.

You OP are an idiot.Fancy thinking of complaining about the female teacher who was in that frightening situation!

You, your weak and inexcusable parenting, and your resulting thug of a son are the scourge of society. I cannot fathom my son doing this and my concern being the teacher. Punish your son. Leave the poor teacher alone. I really want good teachers for my children and I am fed up with awful awful parents like you driving them out of the profession.

YABVU

Flip the situation so it’s your child being attacked and the teacher pushing the attacker out of the room. You’d be alright with that wouldn’t you?

Sorry! The teachers remarks.

I don’t think they is genuine as I dont believe anybody could be as unreasonable as you.Your Son has behaved appallingly and you want to complain about the teacher who had no choice but to manage this dreadful situation.Can you not possibly understand that she needed to protect herself and her pupil.Your lad sounds like a thug and your attitude disgusts me.In future years you will be in a Police Station blaming the Police.

I'm a teacher and can assure you - they are!

It might not always be at this end of the spectrum with regards to violence, but there really are parents complaining about every telling-off, detention, and comment that I make towards their child that is not 100% positive. Parents who will want a full scale investigation over a comment or incident that the child and I had forgotten about a week ago.

It makes the job ten times harder when you have to justify everything you do.There are many more parents than you'd think whose child can do no wrong. It really is no wonder we're leaving in droves (I can't work for a few months and questioning going back!)

"the head of year has forcibly got in the middle and told my son to get out - he did - but as he turned round again to say something to the other boy she has pushed him away from her and again screamed at him to get out. She’s not big or tall and she didn’t hurt him"

Your language around this is all wrong op.

Your son and 2 other teenage boys forcibly barged in the the head of years office, where she was protecting a boy who they were clearly marauding around trying to find so they could beat the crap out of him.

These boys then began punching this boy....who the teacher has a duty of care to protect. So she bravely stood between them hoping desperately that your son had some miniscule sense of decency and that he wasn't going to punch a female teacher to get the boy he was actively punching.....that was incredibly brave, anything could've happened to her. She told your son to back off and he began to but then he turned again, he says so he could say something but in that split second, whilst likely quite scared and full of adrenaline the teacher thought he might be turning to have another go with her in the middle so she put up her hands and defensive pushed back as he advanced.

Even if it was the case that your son was only going to speak the second time (which ai highly doubt) I think it could very easily be midconstrued by anyone else that he intended otherwise....mainly because he's the sort of person who thinks it's fine to barge into a teachers office and attempt the beat someone up....nothing about his behaviour would have led me to feel that he had the best intentions at that moment.

It is astonishing to me that you are interpreting this as your thug of a son having been wronged. If this was my son (which it never would be) I would be absolutely livid with him and telling him that's what you get for behaving like a thug.

I hope you can see from the pages and pages of comments you have received that there is zero doubt you are being exceptionally unreasonable. Have you actually spoke to the school for the teacher's version or just taking the word of your aggressive son?

OP will be back in five years - "my son broke his gf's jaw but he says she cheated on him". Then in ten years, "my grandchildren's mother won't let me see them because I am planning to let my son live at my house after he gets out of prison".

And FYI - your son didn’t get ‘into a fight today’ he committed a premeditated attack on a younger boy with a group of other whom he had recruited.
A small female member of staff bravely intervened to protect a lobe pupil from an attack by 4 older boys led by your son.
As he was leaving he turned back to ‘say something’ I’m sure we can all imagine what that might look like in a 14year old boy who is amped up and adrenaline filled?!?
And yet the bit you’re not happy with is the teacher pushed him away and screamed at him to get out.
This has got to be a wind up!!!?

He says she did this as he was walking away. You trust him? You think his judgement is spot on?

I'm a secondary teacher.

We are totally allowed to intervene in fights in whatever way is appropriate to ensure our own and other students' safety.

Criminal age of responsibility in England is 10. I'd be advising the teacher to contact the cops (yeah, I'm a union rep as well). Hopefully, the other kid's parents will also contact the cops. It's assault. He should do time.

Lots of stuff going on and I’m looking at getting him help.

Please, you will not help your son by complaining about this teacher. You will help him by making.ing it clear to him that his actions were shameful, cowardly and wholly inexcusable. If he was stupid enough to turn back having been told to leave and had to be pushed away by the teacher, that simply exacerbates already awful behaviour.

Seriously, he will be extremely lucky if he is not permanently excluded and charged with criminal assault. You trying to blame one of his victims will not help him realise what a dangerous path he is going down.

You son is a violent, pack-running aggressor.

He behaved like that in a place where all children and staff deserve to feel safe.

99% of the respondents agree, I’m assuming you voted against.

This is what a jury will look like if he doesn’t sort himself out now.

I wouldn’t be apportioning blame on that brave woman, I’d be hanging my head in abject mortification.

He wasn’t walking away, he’d turned back to the other boy. YOUR WORDS.

Regardless of the absolute detail of that point, I hope your son gets expelled and the teacher deserves a medal.

His behaviour is appalling and indefensible. You are trying to minimise it by fixating on an irrelevant point. Your son went looking for a younger child with a gang of fellow thugs in order to beat him up. He cares so little he wasn’t even bothered there was a teacher in the room. As I said already, I hope he is expelled and has the book thrown at him. ‘Getting him help’ sounds like meaningless platitudes at this stage.

And yes I am judging the fuck out of your parenting if this is your response to an incident as severe as that.

The teacher was very courageous, a small woman taking on a teenage boy throwing punches? She was using reasonable force to defend herself and the other boy.

And this is why behaviour in schools has reached an all time low. Your first concern should be the disgraceful behaviour of your violent, bullying son. The teacher should be commended for her quick, brave actions. Parents should support teachers in their attempts to keep order.

No wonder teachers are leaving the profession.

Yes. And one of the reasons why he'll probably learn nothing from the experience is because his doting mother seems to think it's the teacher who's in the wrong!

Your sun is highly aggressive and unpredictable. The teacher handled it like a boss. I’m gunna go out on a limb and say the class of at least 30 witness will likely tell a different story about your delinquent son.

you need to be doing more than saying “it’s not ok”

youre damn fucking right it’s not ok. Thank fuck that wasn’t my kid because you’d have me at your door

Not saying your child had a knife btw, but the teacher didn’t t know that, and it is also worth you reading the judges remarks at the end of the article.

Wow. Do you not think that without that brave lady de-escalating the situation things could have got worse?

Your son could be in a police cell right now, on a murder charge. You absolute bloody loon.

You owe her a debt of thanks and your son’s life not going down the toilet. Complain? Fuck off!

YABVU

The teacher told your son to get out after he went into another room looking for the other boy.

You said he went out the room - but as he did, he then turned to say something to the other boy again. The teacher obviously thought your son was not going to leave, and felt the situation could potentially escalate - and that is why she did what she did.

If you son had walked out as asked, and not turned round to say something else, this would not have happened.

Looked what up? 🤣

Look up ‘pre emotive strike’ (in a self defence context) it’s perfectly legal to put hands on someone if you fear violence against yourself or another. He’s lucky it was just a shove. 40 years ago he’d have been sent to the head for a caning.

Teachers can use their bodies to protect other students and staff members from physical violence. Lots of schools are actually providing teachers training on how to physically intervene when a student is violent.

I would be entirely focused on your thug son instead of trying to blame a teacher for trying to protect another student from him.

But thanks for providing a perfect example of the absolute bullshit schools receive from unreasonable parents every day.