WIBU if I complain about this teacher?

Why the hell would she do it as he was walking away? She’d be glad to see the back of him . Your son sounds like a nightmare. . Wake up and acknowledge that he needs sorting out.

Oh my gosh..I hope this is a joke or trolling thread. It has certainly put paid to any desire I had to retrain as a secondary school teacher if a parent of a violent thug would complain about a teacher doing this!
If he had managed to get to the kid and cause some real damage would we be saying the same about a teacher standing back and not putting their hands on the kid? Sounds like your kid needs some tough discipline, as do a lot of kids.

I hope he is excluded and behaves in just as foul a way to you... See how your patience holds out....will you end up gently pushing him away if he comes at you or someone else in the house like a violent rageful beast I wonder?

Good luck teachers!!! You deserve a medal (or a pay rise!!!)

A teenager who is capable of attacking someone is more than capable of lying about a teacher to try and deflect attention from what he did. I hope they expel him to keep the staff and students safe from him.

Your son is a violent thug and you are supporting and enabling his behaviour. You should be ashamed.

Probably not.

All of this

“Getting help” used to be just “parenting”. It’s tedious to read how external agencies are always assumed to be needed loading more burden in the system. What’s needed here is you going on parenting courses.

I'm glad you have had your arse handed to you on here. The thing you took from this situation is that you need to complain about the teacher who pushed your son away when he was threatening other students? Wow. Just wow.

I guess it hasn't occurred to you that your son might have exaggerated what the teacher did to deflect from his own disgraceful behaviour, knowing that you'd bite and shift the focus? I wonder how many times he's got away with things by doing that.

Honestly, no wonder nobody wants to teach any more. Deal with your violent little shit of a son, never mind complaining about a teacher trying to protect others from him and his horrid mates.

She was probably scared. Sounds like she was. I don’t blame her. 4 teenage boys show up to start beating up a younger boy who is alone with only her to protect him.

Also, you say your son turned around to say something as he left. She didn’t know that was “all he was doing”. So she reacted accordingly.

I would not be focusing on making complaints about staff in your shoes. I would be far concerned with dealing with my child’s behaviour. And figuring out how to sort things out if the other child’s parents report this incident to police. I absolutely would if my child was set upon like that.

Are you actually being serious!!!!!!!

@Throwawaymama now that you’ve had your arse handed to you, I very much hope you will see the error of your ways and step up and do the correct thing.

Oh and “I’m looking at getting him help” is not enough. I also find this is the response of someone who wants to appear to be doing something but doesn’t want to actually do it themselves or acknowledge they are part of the problem. “Help” will not be immediate, whatever you think you can arrange. You need to act now. He needs serious consequences at home as well as at school. He needs to know his parent will support the school when he has done wrong. He needs to make amends and you need to make him. You need to make him understand that his behaviour was awful and how using some flimsy transparent deflection tactic about the teacher pushing him “when he was walking away” (yeah, right!) isn’t going to cut the mustard.

Also mentioning the fact the other boy had been in isolation all afternoon….i see what you’re doing there. More blame shifting. In other words the other boy is no angel as why would he need to be in isolation all afternoon? But that is irrelevant! Your DS went mob handed and attacked him in front of a teacher. Which shows he doesn’t give a shit and thinks he can do what he likes! (Ever wondered why he thinks that?!). You have enabled this behaviour and you’re still doing it even now by trying to shift whatever blame you can onto the other boy and the teacher.

I don’t think one person on here has supported your view. I hope you take that on board. You should be unreservedly apologising to that poor teacher and so should your DS. You are a terrible parent.

You need to have an ounce of empathy for the teacher. She’s sitting with a child, alone. Suddenly 3 boys come in, all probably larger than she is, all fired up. She ends a fight and gets the main instigator out. He then turns to shout something, again escalating the situation. She is very physically close to him at this point.

She must have been frightened and desperate to get the boys out into a public space where she can get help. She absolutely had reason to believe she was about to become a victim as well.

‘but as he turned round again to say something to the other boy she has pushed him away from her’

You are making it sound like the teacher went after him to push him when in your OP you say he turned around again. The teacher clearly perceived a 2nd threat from your son.

You’re barking up the wrong tree here. There are some things closer to home you need to get sorted out. And the teacher needs an apology !

Hope this is fully investigated and results in them all being expelled.

It’s perfectly plausible the teacher continued to sense a threat - given 3 boys pre-planned an assault and were so brazen to carry it out with a teacher present. WHAT?!

By your description she is small, may have been shocked and terrified, for herself and other boy. Your son begins to get verbal again….

I find it grotesque teachers have to put up with this. For any parent to have the audacity to question a minor shove given the context you need to have a serious word with yourself.

That teacher had probably not slept all night, was scared for her own safety, will now have to spend her time writing incident reports and having interviews and she did all that as part of our job is to safeguard children by using “reasonable force”. I do wonder how long I can keep doing this job.

Absolutely ‘reasonable force’

Your violent son went looking for a younger boy with some of his ‘mates’ burst into a room with her and this boy and attacked him.

Honestly be a better parent instead of trying to pin something on the teacher here. You sound like a bloody idiot.

I’d be utterly ashamed of my child rather than complain!

Oh, and he didn't 'get into a fight'. He entered her classroom with the intent to commit assault. She was protecting a younger child. I'd be calling the police if I were her.

That poor teacher. Wow.

Yes all this. Thank goodness we are all on the same page here. How scary for the teacher.

Wow you're clearly the problem here - no excuses, what an outrageous perspective when your son was the aggressor and clearly has no boundaries from his parent. You need to sign up to parenting classes quick, if your son's to have any chance in life. And send an apologetic letter, it's the very least you can do.

Agree with this. Good on the teacher for trying to stop your violent son battering another child who is younger than him (for the second time!)

OP, you need to have a good look at your parenting here. Kids get into fights, but your teenager has taken it upon him to beat up the same boy again, this time with a gang of boys. It is thuggish behaviour and could result in your boy getting questioned by the police if the other parents decide to take it that far, which they have a right to.

The teacher is human too and would have been scared. Even a tiny bit of empathy for her situation is needed here. You should be apologising for your son's behaviour.

But in the seconds it took for all this to happen, she probably thought that either she or the other child were going to be attacked.

Your son was told to leave, and looked as if he was going to, then turned around. I think most people would think he turned around to attack, either physically or verbally.

You have said the female teacher isn't big. Your son may therefore be physically larger and stronger than she is. He also had the support of his friends. The teacher acted to defend herself, and/or the other child by pushing him away. I would say that was reasonable force. She didn't punch him, as your son did to the other boy.

As a result of your sons actions (and those of his friends that backed him up), the teacher involved, and probably several other staff will (instead of teaching) had to spend time dealing with the situation that has been caused. You have admitted that your son assaulted the other boy, and not in self defence, because the other boy was sat with a teacher.

Instead of complaning about her, you should be apologising that your son put her in that situation.

It’s not the teachers actions you need to be focusing on here it’s your violent son you need to be focused on before his next stop is prison.

@HangryGooose hopefully the teacher involved will be pushing for this child to be suspended pending a permanent exclusion , hopeful the child they attacked unprovoked will have reported the assault to the police . Hopefully once both of those things have happened the school will be free from the violence .

She was probably quite scared of your almost-adult thug who in a very short amount of time will be in jail if he doesn't completely turn this around.

The way you're behaving about this is making it clear why your son behaves this way. A lifetime of criminality is within his reach unless you start being a parent right now.