WIBU if I complain about this teacher?

Even if the story was different and she pushed him while he was on his way out, I would STILL think you were being unreasonable for complaining. The situation must have been very scary for a smaller teacher, outnumbered by violent teenage boys. She deserves an apology and a thank you. I feel awful for her.

You are only judging her after the event. Imagine for a second being in the room when three boys who are potentially larger than her aggressively come into the room and attack a child who you have been monitoring. Firstly she's reacting in shock and has no idea how much more violent they are going to be. She is physically trying to shield the child from further attacks and then your son turns around again, rather than continuing to leave. What do you expect her to do? If it was your child being attacked, would you feel differently?

She's not hurt your child, she's acted as a barrier to him doing further harm. Yes she came in contact with your child but only to the extent of prevention of further attacks. I would be worried if she'd manhandled him for an extended period or hurt him but she hasn't. I expect it was a very traumatic and scary time for her. Your son chose to find out where the other child was being detained, they couldn't "escape" due to being in detention and your son has taken advantage of this. He's rounded up two mates for back up and come there with the intention to do harm. Focus on why he chose to do that.

If you really think complaining about this teacher is a reasonable thing to do, you are the reason your son is behaving the way he is. You should be apologising to her for his appalling behaviour.

Wait… so you’re cross with a teacher who stepped in to stop your precious thug of son attacking a younger child with a gang of his friends?

This can’t be real!

Put yourself in her shoes, how bloody brave of her to stand between a gang of teenagers intent on battering another child.
Your first reaction should be complete shame and embarrassment of your sons behaviour, and wanting to apologise to the teacher/other child involved.
You should be utterly ashamed of your thug of a son, and of your reaction to his thuggish behaviour!
I really do think your reaction explains a lot about your son’s sense of entitlement that he can lay his hands on another person. Over-indulged children do often become complete out of control shits.

You are so wrong and you can't even see it.

He was walking away ( per his version of evidents?) but still mouthing off and hot headed. She needed him out of there.

Good luck with your complaint when your position is:

• your son is abusive and is fighting with a younger child
• he gathers others to support him
• he assaults a younger child with the help of others somewhere he has no business bring and in the presence of a teacher

Not only is he violent, he's unbelievably stupid as well.

You really need to wise up and stop complaining about teachers and sort him out.

Aside from the fact that OP is on another planet, I cannot imagine a situation where he’s come home having assaulted someone but has the nerve to say “oh but the small female teacher pushed me”.

I imagine he knew his mother would focus on that, because I imagine she’s never bloody disciplined him ever if there was a chance to blame someone else.

You said yourself he had turned back.

she was trying to break up the situation. Your son was 100% the one in the wrong.

No, you should be grateful she is in charge of the situation and not allowing him to go on being abusive. You should make him apologise to her and maybe send her some flowers. If it were my son he'd be grounded with no wifi or privileges for at least a week. What kind of adult do you want to raise?

I think she was actually really brave. Your son was violent and unpredictable and from her perspective he turned back around which probably felt like he was coming for another go.

To go and get 3 of his friends and enter a classroom in that way is so extreme and violent and whatever his issues I think you should be ashamed and horrified. Not considering whether to complain

Oh grow up. No wonder teachers are leaving in droves.

Your child is lying to you because you are so easily distracted from focusing on the real problem and dealing with his behaviour.

He clearly wasn’t. You said he stopped to then back around and talk to his friend. Which means she got in the middle of the fight, told him to leave, and watched/followed as he walked away then turned back around in the direction of her and the child he attacked. At that point, all she could see was another attack coming and she had to protect herself and the other child so she pushed him out of the door. Well done her.

If you cannot accept that she did what she needed to do and that your son is a danger to other children and adults then you are never going to fix the problem.

She did nothing wrong. Sort yourself out.

After his dreadful behaviour it seems highly unlikely he's the sort of person to tell the truth anyway. He can't be trusted.

Edited as meant to write unlikely.

Are you having a laugh? Your son is a violent yob and you are concerned about a teacher ushering him out of a room where he was attacking another kid with 3 of his friends? I think we can see why he's a yob.

What a brave teacher putting herself in that position. Poor woman. Do the school a favour and withdraw your child.

That’s not what your first post said at all.

You're being unreasonable, she's one adult to four children, one who is clearly being aggressive, maybe if your son had walked out the first time she asked she wouldn't have had to move him with her hands. It's no different to adults pushing an aggressive individual back when they are trying to be aggressive towards someone.

Unfortunately if you want to act like the big man you'll be treated like one. It's absolutely reasonable. Teachers are actually trained in this and how to move students safely and with reasonable force.

You say you are looking at getting him help?

Excellent!

Maybe enlist a boy in the year above him to give him a good kick up the arse. I think that would help him no end.

Then, march him into the school tomorrow and make him grovel to this poor teacher, whom he must have terrified.

If you don't want to that, take him out of school-away from the great privilege that is a free education-and keep him at home.

Good luck for the future! You will need it.

Your priorities are fucked. And you are wrong, teachers are allowed to touch children. They are not allowed to harm children, and this teacher did no harm. She prevented harm for someone else’s child and you should be thanking her.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a819959ed915d74e6233224/Use_of_reasonable_force_advice_Reviewed_July_2015.pdf

This post is the reason that every teacher I know wonders how long they can carry on dealing with the shit they have to put up with.

You're just going to keep doubling down, aren't you?

Are you actually kidding? This has to be a wind up because actually no parent is this stupid!!

Perhaps focus on dealing with the thug in your home. That behaviour is wild and seriously concerning. Focus on the real issue.

Also, that teacher is a fucking hero. I would also be asking if she was ok and apologising profusely for your son’s behaviour.

You said it was as he turned around to say something. She probably very reasonably thought he was coming back to continue his assault.